We know it's ad-free and zero cost, but will it be DRM-free as well?
I'm not sure if US government IP is legally allowed to be DRM'd.
Not only is it not allowed to be DRM'd, "US government IP" is itself an oxymoron: stuff published by the government is Public Domain, so it doesn't even count as "intellectual property [sic]" to begin with.
Yeah, it’s paid for by taxpayers, so it’s all fair use.
Edit: I realize from the replies that my point was off base and actually opposite of the debate here. I'm going to leave this in its place, but thanks to the responders that showed me this wasn't the right place to make the point I was trying to.
Govt research grants are not videos literally being published by the govt. They aren't particularly comparable siuations. It's why I can't just buy a stock of Disney and suddenly have free access to their IP. Meanwhile I can rehost whole programs put out by NASA with zero issue.
I get the anger and it's justified, but man is it misdirected here.
Yes, thank you. You gave a more detailed answer than I did.
Thank you. I agree and I've updated my comment. 🙂
No, I was specifically talking about their media content. Pictures, videos, etc.
This would only be true in the US. What about the rest of the world?
In this case, free in the rest of the world as well.
They could geo-lock it if they wanted, but that's not the road NASA likes to take in general.
Good question. I think as long as you can already access the NASA app, NASA TV (it’s on YouTube, too), and NASA’s websites, then this should be no different. IIRC one press release said they wanted to share their content “with the world”, so it sounds like that’s a yes, but again I’m not 100% sure. Hopefully we find out in a few days :)
Most NASA stuff is published under non affiliation free use license - you can do what ever you like with it.
you can do what ever you like with it.
RIP to the videos on Uranus.
I wouldn't be surprised if a majority of the content is already freely downloadable from somewhere...
A budget that goes into space exploration, development of groundbreaking science that has its use both in space and on Earth, popularization of science among masses, democratizing access to cutting-edge knowledge, making it free for everyone, including kids and the poor, to access at any time?
Yes, please.
I think monetarily supporting people would help them more.
We can afford to do both. We choose not to.
Probably true to some extent. Though, at what point do you decide it's better to just directly give the money to people?
I would say, take the money from other things that suck, like handouts to the rich and wasteful military overspending which would easily cover the things we need to cover. Defunding NASA would contribute to the dummification of the country and is a terrible idea.
Considering it is such a small percentage
Currently, but during many of the innovations it was a much higher percentage. And why do you assume there wouldn't be other, maybe more impactful innovations, if NASA money and NASA researchers weren't working on something else?
There's no situation where it isn't better to just give the money directly to the people who need it.
That would be great, but that's not NASA's department. Try Congress first. Then the DOD.
Edit: and then the morally bankrupt billionaires.
I'm not advocating NASA donate the money, I'm advocating considering cutting NASA's budget
Especially if you don't live in the shitty country. Yes please, sacrifice the physical and mental wellbeing of Americans for an indepth knowledge of the Universe just before you regress into full facism. Your war crimes won't be overlooked though.
I am not even American, but I do know that the US Army budget makes the NASA budget look like pocket change.
I'd say you're focusing on the wrong sector..
Seriously, I'm always confused by people complaining about NASA's budget. It's peanuts in comparison to the other stuff our Government wastes money on. Also doesn't help that the government itself is responsible for a lot of the money wasting that happens at NASA. The Artemis program being the perfect example, which is basically just a glorified jobs program at this point, as mandated by the government, instead of actually being a smart way of building a rocket.
US americans are complaining for nasa, public schools if they don't have kids, public health sector, even for bike lanes because they use no bikes, but almost never for all the military expenses on the other side of the earth.
People who are so uneducated that they think funding public education is a bad investment are great proof of why we need better public education...
NASA isn't sacrificing American's wellbeing, regressing into fascism, or committing war crimes. That's multiple other branches of the government. Despite whatever media you're consuming the US gov isn't one unified dictatorship, as much as a certain political group would like it to be.
NASA is one of the few branches of our government that's actually somewhat decent and doesn't need a complete overhaul to benefit our country or world. It's already paying us back the relatively small budget allocated to them in several ways. So your comment is basically a whataboutism.
Oh fuck off.
For a yearly fee of just USD 50.000, I will fuck off at zero cost!
God you're so dumb it's incredible.
cheap for what you get
...or about 3% of the military budget. Quite a bargain.
Maybe you's could do a similar thing for healthcare and get healthcare for free, like this new nasa+ thing. Wouldn't that be wild
But what about the profits of insurance companies that act as gatekeepers to your healthcare?? Are those people just supposed to get different jobs? Bet you didn't think about who you would be hurting
Sarcasm
The funny thing with tax is you don't get choose how it's spent. Tax money is public money that ought to be spent in the public interest, and NASA is a perfectly good example of this. Other good examples are infrastructure, parks, public healthcare and free education. Bad examples of tax expenditure are the ridiculous military complex, massive corporate subsidies and contractors doing poor work that the government should be directly controlling.
We know it's ad-free and zero cost, but will it be DRM-free as well?
I'm not sure if US government IP is legally allowed to be DRM'd.
Not only is it not allowed to be DRM'd, "US government IP" is itself an oxymoron: stuff published by the government is Public Domain, so it doesn't even count as "intellectual property [sic]" to begin with.
Yeah, it’s paid for by taxpayers, so it’s all fair use.
Edit: I realize from the replies that my point was off base and actually opposite of the debate here. I'm going to leave this in its place, but thanks to the responders that showed me this wasn't the right place to make the point I was trying to.
Govt research grants are not videos literally being published by the govt. They aren't particularly comparable siuations. It's why I can't just buy a stock of Disney and suddenly have free access to their IP. Meanwhile I can rehost whole programs put out by NASA with zero issue.
I get the anger and it's justified, but man is it misdirected here.
Yes, thank you. You gave a more detailed answer than I did.
Thank you. I agree and I've updated my comment. 🙂
No, I was specifically talking about their media content. Pictures, videos, etc.
This would only be true in the US. What about the rest of the world?
In this case, free in the rest of the world as well.
They could geo-lock it if they wanted, but that's not the road NASA likes to take in general.
Good question. I think as long as you can already access the NASA app, NASA TV (it’s on YouTube, too), and NASA’s websites, then this should be no different. IIRC one press release said they wanted to share their content “with the world”, so it sounds like that’s a yes, but again I’m not 100% sure. Hopefully we find out in a few days :)
Most NASA stuff is published under non affiliation free use license - you can do what ever you like with it.
RIP to the videos on Uranus.
I wouldn't be surprised if a majority of the content is already freely downloadable from somewhere...
A budget that goes into space exploration, development of groundbreaking science that has its use both in space and on Earth, popularization of science among masses, democratizing access to cutting-edge knowledge, making it free for everyone, including kids and the poor, to access at any time? Yes, please.
I think monetarily supporting people would help them more.
We can afford to do both. We choose not to.
Probably true to some extent. Though, at what point do you decide it's better to just directly give the money to people?
Considering it is such a small percentage of the budget and they have developed so much useful technology (https://www.howtogeek.com/831363/these-nasa-innovations-are-all-around-us-everyday/)
I would say, take the money from other things that suck, like handouts to the rich and wasteful military overspending which would easily cover the things we need to cover. Defunding NASA would contribute to the dummification of the country and is a terrible idea.
Currently, but during many of the innovations it was a much higher percentage. And why do you assume there wouldn't be other, maybe more impactful innovations, if NASA money and NASA researchers weren't working on something else?
There's no situation where it isn't better to just give the money directly to the people who need it.
That would be great, but that's not NASA's department. Try Congress first. Then the DOD. Edit: and then the morally bankrupt billionaires.
I'm not advocating NASA donate the money, I'm advocating considering cutting NASA's budget
Especially if you don't live in the shitty country. Yes please, sacrifice the physical and mental wellbeing of Americans for an indepth knowledge of the Universe just before you regress into full facism. Your war crimes won't be overlooked though.
I am not even American, but I do know that the US Army budget makes the NASA budget look like pocket change.
I'd say you're focusing on the wrong sector..
Seriously, I'm always confused by people complaining about NASA's budget. It's peanuts in comparison to the other stuff our Government wastes money on. Also doesn't help that the government itself is responsible for a lot of the money wasting that happens at NASA. The Artemis program being the perfect example, which is basically just a glorified jobs program at this point, as mandated by the government, instead of actually being a smart way of building a rocket.
US americans are complaining for nasa, public schools if they don't have kids, public health sector, even for bike lanes because they use no bikes, but almost never for all the military expenses on the other side of the earth.
People who are so uneducated that they think funding public education is a bad investment are great proof of why we need better public education...
NASA isn't sacrificing American's wellbeing, regressing into fascism, or committing war crimes. That's multiple other branches of the government. Despite whatever media you're consuming the US gov isn't one unified dictatorship, as much as a certain political group would like it to be.
NASA is one of the few branches of our government that's actually somewhat decent and doesn't need a complete overhaul to benefit our country or world. It's already paying us back the relatively small budget allocated to them in several ways. So your comment is basically a whataboutism.
Oh fuck off.
For a yearly fee of just USD 50.000, I will fuck off at zero cost!
God you're so dumb it's incredible.
cheap for what you get
...or about 3% of the military budget. Quite a bargain.
Maybe you's could do a similar thing for healthcare and get healthcare for free, like this new nasa+ thing. Wouldn't that be wild
But what about the profits of insurance companies that act as gatekeepers to your healthcare?? Are those people just supposed to get different jobs? Bet you didn't think about who you would be hurting
Sarcasm
The funny thing with tax is you don't get choose how it's spent. Tax money is public money that ought to be spent in the public interest, and NASA is a perfectly good example of this. Other good examples are infrastructure, parks, public healthcare and free education. Bad examples of tax expenditure are the ridiculous military complex, massive corporate subsidies and contractors doing poor work that the government should be directly controlling.
https://youtube.com/shorts/WwbqlHkQQsE?si=iLsOjGmXc3T8d_fj