Reddit CEO: We're Sticking With API Changes, Despite Subreddits Going Dark
pcmag.com
'Unlike some of the 3P [third-party] apps, we are not profitable,' Steve Huffman says in defending the move to charge for high-volume API access.
'Unlike some of the 3P [third-party] apps, we are not profitable,' Steve Huffman says in defending the move to charge for high-volume API access.
It's why I'm here, and I'm liking it so far
Same. Honestly I don't even miss Reddit. Fuck that place
Yeah, only thing missing are the amount of people but that's a problem that's being fixed every passing day.
Joke's on you u/Spez: we've got a new Reddit, with blackjack and hookers!
It's going to take a bit to get used to, but I'm like Lemmy for the most part.
Haven't removed my reddit account, but I only have one sub that is still online at this point.
Really does feel like they killed a giant.
I am so hesitant to delete my Reddit account. I've had it for 12 years and there is a small bit of me that hopes they will fire u/spez and go back to the Reddit I have loved for so long. As long as he is around though I won't be going back and it really does feel as though they have killed a giant.
Yeah, I'll keep my account but my eyeballs aren't going to be there nearly as often. Just like I still check Fark out once in a while but don't stick around long.
I have the same hope but they're probably going to make the changes, make spez the fall guy, pay him fuck off money...and they'll go about their merry way. It's sad that Reddit trying to become a generic social media platform rather than just do it's own thing.
I'm looking forward to what Lemmy will bring! Brb deleting my reddit account.
Already deleted my account. Feels good. The more I think about it, the more the fediverse feels like a saviour for the internet. It should be a no brainer that any single company that makes a social media will sooner or later try to do anything they can to profit 110% from their users.
Lemmy and other decentralized plattforms seems more like how the internet is supposed to be. No one owns any greater part of it. This is history in the making, the time we got the internet back!
Welp, that means i ma more likely to stay here. I am interested to see where this will be going
This sucks for reddit, but I think this will be good for the internet in the long run. This is hopefully gonna push people into the fediverse and reduce reliance on these megacorp data mining operations.
At this point even if Reddit keeps going on, there's enough people on Mastodon, Lemmy, and Kbin that we can thrive as a new site with our own culture. Hacker News wasn't made obsolete by Reddit or Digg's existence for example.
Yep. I just don't care anymore. I have all the community I possibly need right here. I can miss some niche communities but this is all I need for the time being.
That's the final move to help me change from reddit to Lemmy !
This was the final straw for me at Reddit as well. Happy to be here now! Still trying to learn the ropes.
It should never be about profit. It’s always been about…
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Passion.
That's Steve "I think the problem Digg had is that it was a company that was built to be a company, and you could feel it in the product. The way you could criticise Reddit is that we weren't a company – we were all heart and no head for a long time. So I think it'd be really hard for me and for the team to kill Reddit in that way." Huffman everyone.
Yep. I think the community that comes after Reddit needs to be under the umbrella of a nonprofit, whose mission in life is to keep the community alive, fundraise for resources, keep a moderation system in place to keep out difficult people, etc. Nonprofit because while a for-profit business is required by law to maximize profits for owners & shareholders, a nonprofit is required by law to do the beneficial thing for the community.
11 years on reddit and seeing its long slow decline its just sad. A return to the basics was very necessary. Removing subs from r/all, messing with the voting, "new" reddit, a clamp down on content...it just kept getting worse and worse. As long as I could use RIF and old.reddit it was fine, but the writing is on the wall at this point.
While most of their users are used to the newer layout from other social media, my goal was always to see the most number of posts I could on a single page and have a clean ad-free experience. Lemmy seems to get this
It's like Reddit forgot the Digg flood back in the day and is making the same poor choices Digg made that drew so many people to reddit a decade ago.
There was never serious competition to threaten Reddit before. Voat was the closest, but when legitimate redditfugees got there it was already full of a critical mass of Nazis (actual Nazis, not “everyone I don’t like is a Nazi”) and people who thought spamming slurs was peak free speech. Not exactly a solid foundation for popular new site.
The statement from r/watchredditdie when they closed the sub really put things in perspective for me.
Whoa. I missed this tidbit of information. Aaron Swartz's memory defiled by their actions just reaffirms my decision to leave.
Aaron Swartz will always be the real spiritual founder of what Reddit was at its best for me. Huffman will be the fool that didn't understand the ethos of it and drove it into the ground in his greed.
If true, that actually speaks volumes. Like what kind of guy removes a dead man, at some point revered, from the list of co-founders. What do you lose by not doing it? What did you win by doing it? I mean, the odds are you lost more than anything. Besides, he should have been your partner. Even if you did for the cash, what about all the moments you had with him? Was Aaron such a piece that you'd rather have him erased?
I seriously can't get it.
Ego. Tremendously inflated ego, perhaps stoked by watching Musk and thinking “great idea, I can do that too!”..?
To the surprise of literally nobody. Oh well. Enjoy the mass exodus when people stop using reddit because it no longer props up google. Maybe it'll hurt Reddit and Google 😍
Hey look that's why I'm here now!
I've officially removed all traces of reddit this morning and going with lemmy strictly. I will go back to reddit on the 14th to assess the situation. I probably will use both but lemmy is growing on me a lot
How tf is reddit not profitable? When I first joined reddit it had a progress bar to the side that showed the percentage of server costs covered by reddit gold and it was always filled. Since then they started showing lots more ads, added reddit coins, awards and premium subscription to increase their revenue. The increase in their cost/user has to be from the native image/video uploads and redisigning the website/app. If YouTube manages to be profitable hosting 4k videos, reddit must be doing something very stupid to become unprofitable with their low quality videos.
and that's why im here.
I'm missing reddit less and less with reach passing minute. At this point I don't know if I'll be going back after the blackout. This is already WAY more fun to use than the reddit app or mobile site, and I have no idea what I'm doing yet.
Kudos to the developers here for putting in the work.
Same here, I'm trying to wean myself off the firehouse of relevant content, in favour of a more community feel. Truth is, quality over quantity is exactly what I need.
And quality of interactions. So far, anyway, this place is missing the familiar hostility.
Nobody asked Reddit to start hosting images and videos. If you want to turn a profit, maybe stop doing that? I think Spez comes out as very despicable in this whole situation.
Can someone explain why going dark for 48 hours would make Reddit's response unexpected? Basically they just need to bear 48 hours and then no consequences? What's the motivation to overturn the API decision?
I mean, if the motivation to overturn the decision is because of longer protests, then reddit might as well be gone. We want reddit to be a community. No amount of protest can build a community.
Cool--we're sticking with Lemmy.
Kbin has entered the chat
Lol I jest especially as Kbin and Lemmy play nice with each other too!
Fuck @spez@lemmy.world
Cool, I guess it's time to uninstall boost then. Guess I'm on Lemmy for the foreseeable future!
I've already uninstalled RiF - it was the only way to stop me from automatically opening it back up.
Check out Jerboa.
Signed, former RiF user
Can confirm, am using jerboa. It seems to be scratching that itch pretty well... Despite the shortfalls. There are some additions I'd make, and maybe a little layout change but apart from that it works well.
It’s laughable that the CEO of a 10 billion dollar (in valuation) company https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/12/technology/reddit-new-funding.html is saying that numerous solo and small group developers are more successful than he is.
This is an absurd statement. Small app developers making ends meet are in no way analogous with a P&L from a corporation and it is disingenuous for Huffman to position himself in this “woe is me” argument.
Also, if Reddit is truly so unprofitable and terrible... maybe they should get a new CEO?