Musk has called the Moraes’ decisions regarding X “unconstitutional.”
Who would know more about Brazil's constitution? One of its Supreme Court Judge or Elon Musk?
Insane how the Republicans made 'unconstitutional' into another meaningless buzzword in order to try and dodge the responsibility for Jan 6th.
They had made it into a meaningless buzzword well before that.
Shut up! He singlehandedly invented Tesla, PayPal and SpaceX. He litters the space with most satellites of everybody. He brought freedom of speech back to Twitter and renamed it to a more SEO friendly X. He also supports the greatest president and best white male specimen DT. So let our overlord Musk be.
PayPal was so far ahead of the curve. I've actively avoided using them for a long because of something that happened many years ago. I sense that young people see it as a boomer app.
PayPal could've been the big bank of the Internet and they fucked it up.
That's sarcasm right?.... Right?!
What do you think?
Sadly I know a couple people who actually would say something like this with a straight face >.>
Well, I can see tRump supporters saying this
I'm taking this as a sign the Internet is healing that I fully understood this as sarcasm. The last couple of years I wouldn't have been so sure.
I still know too many people that might actually believe this, but at least we might be on the right track haha
I’m not sure he means Brazil’s constitution.
Musk has called the Moraes’ decisions regarding X “unconstitutional".
Crazy how a foreign businessman dares making such claims. He really thinks he is the king of the world
and which constitution exactly is he referencing?
The imaginary one that says Jesus loves capitalism and the USA best, and everyone can say whatever they want—always.
The Jesus and capitalism one is always the one that gets me. In the bible Jesus lost his shit twice, and both were because of capitalism. He hated that shit.
Great! Now lets ALL adopt whatever policies that forced this action worldwide!
While any forced retreat by musk, is something to celebrate on it's own, it should be muted by the fact that "The X service remains available to the people of Brazil, the platform said on Saturday." seems like they're just closing their offices so they don't get fined or arrested, but will keep their access operational in Brazil, for now. Brazil can always shut it down any time it likes, and hope they do, but Musk closes offices and lays off employees literally all the time, literally on a whim. This is nothing for him. Sucks to be his employee, but again, anyone still choosing to be in his employ knowing the cunt fascist he's become, deserves all the bad that's coming to them.
Aaah then it is not a retreat it is just an excuse to fire people and whine about regulations
thank you very much, bye 🇧🇷🇧🇷
Can Brazil rent out that judge to Europe for a Sec?
Congratulations to our Brazilian friends here on Lemmy for their most excellent achievement. Bravo and well done.
Offices, it (Xitter) will be still available in Brazil.
Aw.
Meh, only the office closed, the site is still accessible. Here's to hoping the escalation continues and xitter ends fully blocked
You mean twitter (now X)?
I hate Musk as much as anyone, but it's a shit decision by Brazil
Is it not Musks decision? I thought the situation was more akin to "Your house your rules? I don't like your rules so I'm packing a bag and running away."
You're defending censoring people who are speaking out against the government. How is that a good thing?
They tried a coup (with the military and the brazilian rural oligarchs), so it's not "censorship", it's enforcing that Brazil is a democratic (even if very flawed) country. The constitution give this right to the supreme court and him (he was the supreme judge for the last election, so dealing with the aftermath of the election is his obligation), so it's a lot more nuanced than you might say.
Edit: If Musk doesn't respect our laws, let him get out of here haha.
Is it censorship, or stopping (actual) fake news and lies because Musk fired Twitters moderation team?
(I don't actually know)
Moraes have a case in his hand (the tried coup last year), because he was the supreeme judge for the elections. He judged that these people tried to help the coup and demanded that their accounts are suspended (entirely cool with the constitution), as musk doesn't want that, they're gone from Brazil and might be blocked countrywide.
Censoring incorrect information is still censorship
Sure but in this case the judge is not censoring merely incorrect information. It's written in the article that I assume you haven't read
The judge ordered to remove the account of a militant group that attempted a coup after the party they support lost the election
This is exactly the kind of thing that should be censored. Anti democracy groups
This is hands down one of the dumbest things I've ever heard....
It's also 100% true
Earlier this year, Moraes ordered X to block certain accounts, as he investigates so-called “digital militias” that have been accused of spreading fake news and hate messages during the government of far-right former President Jair Bolsonaro.
These people are the equivalent of Trump's cult followers, although I'm not on Twitter myself I am sure they are spreading fake news and any fight against it is a win in my point of view. I myself see these Bolsonaro lovers all the time and it's crazy how they are brainwashed. I know plenty of people who didn't take the COVID vaccine because of him.
Who would know more about Brazil's constitution? One of its Supreme Court Judge or Elon Musk?
Insane how the Republicans made 'unconstitutional' into another meaningless buzzword in order to try and dodge the responsibility for Jan 6th.
They had made it into a meaningless buzzword well before that.
Shut up! He singlehandedly invented Tesla, PayPal and SpaceX. He litters the space with most satellites of everybody. He brought freedom of speech back to Twitter and renamed it to a more SEO friendly X. He also supports the greatest president and best white male specimen DT. So let our overlord Musk be.
PayPal was so far ahead of the curve. I've actively avoided using them for a long because of something that happened many years ago. I sense that young people see it as a boomer app.
PayPal could've been the big bank of the Internet and they fucked it up.
That's sarcasm right?.... Right?!
What do you think?
Sadly I know a couple people who actually would say something like this with a straight face >.>
Well, I can see tRump supporters saying this
I'm taking this as a sign the Internet is healing that I fully understood this as sarcasm. The last couple of years I wouldn't have been so sure.
I still know too many people that might actually believe this, but at least we might be on the right track haha
I’m not sure he means Brazil’s constitution.
Crazy how a foreign businessman dares making such claims. He really thinks he is the king of the world
and which constitution exactly is he referencing?
The imaginary one that says Jesus loves capitalism and the USA best, and everyone can say whatever they want—always.
The Jesus and capitalism one is always the one that gets me. In the bible Jesus lost his shit twice, and both were because of capitalism. He hated that shit.
Great! Now lets ALL adopt whatever policies that forced this action worldwide!
While any forced retreat by musk, is something to celebrate on it's own, it should be muted by the fact that "The X service remains available to the people of Brazil, the platform said on Saturday." seems like they're just closing their offices so they don't get fined or arrested, but will keep their access operational in Brazil, for now. Brazil can always shut it down any time it likes, and hope they do, but Musk closes offices and lays off employees literally all the time, literally on a whim. This is nothing for him. Sucks to be his employee, but again, anyone still choosing to be in his employ knowing the cunt fascist he's become, deserves all the bad that's coming to them.
Aaah then it is not a retreat it is just an excuse to fire people and whine about regulations
thank you very much, bye 🇧🇷🇧🇷
Can Brazil rent out that judge to Europe for a Sec?
Congratulations to our Brazilian friends here on Lemmy for their most excellent achievement. Bravo and well done.
Offices, it (Xitter) will be still available in Brazil.
Aw.
Meh, only the office closed, the site is still accessible. Here's to hoping the escalation continues and xitter ends fully blocked
You mean twitter (now X)?
I hate Musk as much as anyone, but it's a shit decision by Brazil
Is it not Musks decision? I thought the situation was more akin to "Your house your rules? I don't like your rules so I'm packing a bag and running away."
You're defending censoring people who are speaking out against the government. How is that a good thing?
They tried a coup (with the military and the brazilian rural oligarchs), so it's not "censorship", it's enforcing that Brazil is a democratic (even if very flawed) country. The constitution give this right to the supreme court and him (he was the supreme judge for the last election, so dealing with the aftermath of the election is his obligation), so it's a lot more nuanced than you might say.
Edit: If Musk doesn't respect our laws, let him get out of here haha.
Is it censorship, or stopping (actual) fake news and lies because Musk fired Twitters moderation team?
(I don't actually know)
Moraes have a case in his hand (the tried coup last year), because he was the supreeme judge for the elections. He judged that these people tried to help the coup and demanded that their accounts are suspended (entirely cool with the constitution), as musk doesn't want that, they're gone from Brazil and might be blocked countrywide.
Censoring incorrect information is still censorship
Sure but in this case the judge is not censoring merely incorrect information. It's written in the article that I assume you haven't read
The judge ordered to remove the account of a militant group that attempted a coup after the party they support lost the election
This is exactly the kind of thing that should be censored. Anti democracy groups
This is hands down one of the dumbest things I've ever heard....
It's also 100% true
These people are the equivalent of Trump's cult followers, although I'm not on Twitter myself I am sure they are spreading fake news and any fight against it is a win in my point of view. I myself see these Bolsonaro lovers all the time and it's crazy how they are brainwashed. I know plenty of people who didn't take the COVID vaccine because of him.