You can get any graduate degree, masters or Ph.D. in whatever you want. What do you choose?
I'm european. That's already how these things work.
Same. * high fives *
Not everywhere in Europe
True, only in the GOOD parts 😛
That’s wonderful. I’m glad education is accessible.
I’m going to go cry in the back corner now, because haha… America #1… in student loan debt.
In the US, PhDs, in STEM at least, are fully funded. Either by research or teaching assistanship. This is the same as in Europe and students are frequently exchanged.
You'll only be paying for yourself if you're in art history or something stupid like that (even then you could get a TA) or you haven't demonstrated that you're smart enough to get a PhD.
Edit: it's so weird how this completely factual statement has been so controversial. I actually went through this process.
You can get any graduate degree, masters or Ph.D. in whatever you want.
That's how it works in my country
I don’t think I’d want to do a PhD because it’s too much work. I just like studying and learning, not writing a fuckin dissertation.
I’d just stay in school forever and learn about everything
By the time you've done enough learning to get a PhD, writing a dissertation is not much trouble.
It's been over ten years, do you want me to talk about mine? For a solid week? Unprepared?
No problem. I already have.
This is the way
I’d just stay in school forever and learn about everything
Me, too!
I would do the same. I love learning.
It took me 6 seconds to realize OP's statement was an hypothetical.
The answer would be nothing. The best day of my life was the moment I exited my last exam room.
I want a PhD in procrastination and busywork.
You just need a bachelor's in finance or accounting, and then go work for the government.
Horticulture
Hey! When I was little, I wanted to be botanist.
PhD in electrical engineering. Only thing stopping me is that I can't afford it.
Umm.
PhDs in things like engineering are typically fully funded. They paid me while I did mine. It's not much, but it's enough to live on.
Art history, sure, you pay for yourself.
In STEM, you would get an RA or at least a TA.
I don't have a masters, just a bachelors. My school basically requires you to have a masters degree to get a PhD, which I would be 1000% willing to do if I had financial support. I think it is unlikely that I would get any kind of help from the school considering my GPA when I left (~2.8) and that I for certain pissed off instructors I would be working with. I had trouble the last few semesters because I was running out of money all the time and couldn't really focus.
Also, I literally don't have the money to fill out the application for a masters degree. I literally have about $3. My parents won't give me the money for that because they want me to get a job. I have applied for well over a hundred positions, and had zero offers and about four total interviews.
Like I would be literally thrilled to go back to school, but I would be surprised if the school were interested in helping me. So as I write this out, I'm realizing that it's not just a money issue...
What's your degree in? And general location? I might be able to help you out.
Edit to add: Just keep spamming applications. It's incredibly hard to get your foot in the door, but it's a numbers game. Eventually you'll get an interview, do well and get hired. Hang in there, friend
What's your degree in? And general location? I might be able to help you out.
Electrical Engineering in New Jersey.
I don't know of anything in New Jersey, but upstate NY, Arizona and Oregon are available as far as I know. I think there's some positions near Austin as well. If you're willing to relocate or just want to do someore targeted applications let me know.
Neuroscience... probably computational
Do you still need prerequisites? Not like I could do an advanced PhD in physics even if it was free.
Degrees don't mean much to me and you can learn almost anything for free these days. Now, having good mentors would be cool, but I went to college and there weren't any there either.
People underestimate the quality of a good teacher/mentor. Not saying that this is necessarily found at an institution.
Yeah I've only had one or two "good" teachers in any schooling I did. I wouldn't consider any of them as mentors. Definitely had a bunch of crappy ones too.
Physics.
if I'm guaranteed some kind of job as well - history PhD probably
If there was a course in carpentry, I would take that.
I started to learn some of that during the pandemic. With a good square, circular saw, and drill you can get started. I've gotten into building some relatively simple furniture now and am basically just using those tools still.
I have a circular saw, a miter saw, a small table saw, an oscillating saw, a square, and a drill. (Among other tools.) I've been able to learn how to install trim and flooring, replace deck boards, and build shelving.
At some point I'd love to learn how to make a bench.
I learned how to make some very fancy furniture off of YouTube. There's lots of excellent videos in techniques.
I remember woodworking for mere mortals being good when I was a beginner. (I'm still a beginner compared to plenty, but I can definitely design and build a bench on my own).
I'm european. That's already how these things work.
Same. * high fives *
Not everywhere in Europe
True, only in the GOOD parts 😛
That’s wonderful. I’m glad education is accessible.
I’m going to go cry in the back corner now, because haha… America #1… in student loan debt.
In the US, PhDs, in STEM at least, are fully funded. Either by research or teaching assistanship. This is the same as in Europe and students are frequently exchanged.
You'll only be paying for yourself if you're in art history or something stupid like that (even then you could get a TA) or you haven't demonstrated that you're smart enough to get a PhD.
Edit: it's so weird how this completely factual statement has been so controversial. I actually went through this process.
I'm dreading the thought of more school :(
I already did my time
That's how it works in my country
I don’t think I’d want to do a PhD because it’s too much work. I just like studying and learning, not writing a fuckin dissertation.
I’d just stay in school forever and learn about everything
By the time you've done enough learning to get a PhD, writing a dissertation is not much trouble.
It's been over ten years, do you want me to talk about mine? For a solid week? Unprepared?
No problem. I already have.
This is the way
Me, too!
I would do the same. I love learning.
It took me 6 seconds to realize OP's statement was an hypothetical.
The answer would be nothing. The best day of my life was the moment I exited my last exam room.
I want a PhD in procrastination and busywork.
You just need a bachelor's in finance or accounting, and then go work for the government.
Horticulture
Hey! When I was little, I wanted to be botanist.
PhD in electrical engineering. Only thing stopping me is that I can't afford it.
Umm.
PhDs in things like engineering are typically fully funded. They paid me while I did mine. It's not much, but it's enough to live on.
Art history, sure, you pay for yourself.
In STEM, you would get an RA or at least a TA.
I don't have a masters, just a bachelors. My school basically requires you to have a masters degree to get a PhD, which I would be 1000% willing to do if I had financial support. I think it is unlikely that I would get any kind of help from the school considering my GPA when I left (~2.8) and that I for certain pissed off instructors I would be working with. I had trouble the last few semesters because I was running out of money all the time and couldn't really focus.
Also, I literally don't have the money to fill out the application for a masters degree. I literally have about $3. My parents won't give me the money for that because they want me to get a job. I have applied for well over a hundred positions, and had zero offers and about four total interviews.
Like I would be literally thrilled to go back to school, but I would be surprised if the school were interested in helping me. So as I write this out, I'm realizing that it's not just a money issue...
What's your degree in? And general location? I might be able to help you out.
Edit to add: Just keep spamming applications. It's incredibly hard to get your foot in the door, but it's a numbers game. Eventually you'll get an interview, do well and get hired. Hang in there, friend
Electrical Engineering in New Jersey.
I don't know of anything in New Jersey, but upstate NY, Arizona and Oregon are available as far as I know. I think there's some positions near Austin as well. If you're willing to relocate or just want to do someore targeted applications let me know.
Neuroscience... probably computational
Do you still need prerequisites? Not like I could do an advanced PhD in physics even if it was free.
Degrees don't mean much to me and you can learn almost anything for free these days. Now, having good mentors would be cool, but I went to college and there weren't any there either.
People underestimate the quality of a good teacher/mentor. Not saying that this is necessarily found at an institution.
Yeah I've only had one or two "good" teachers in any schooling I did. I wouldn't consider any of them as mentors. Definitely had a bunch of crappy ones too.
Physics.
if I'm guaranteed some kind of job as well - history PhD probably
If there was a course in carpentry, I would take that.
I started to learn some of that during the pandemic. With a good square, circular saw, and drill you can get started. I've gotten into building some relatively simple furniture now and am basically just using those tools still.
I have a circular saw, a miter saw, a small table saw, an oscillating saw, a square, and a drill. (Among other tools.) I've been able to learn how to install trim and flooring, replace deck boards, and build shelving.
At some point I'd love to learn how to make a bench.
I learned how to make some very fancy furniture off of YouTube. There's lots of excellent videos in techniques.
I remember woodworking for mere mortals being good when I was a beginner. (I'm still a beginner compared to plenty, but I can definitely design and build a bench on my own).
Either computing science or psychology.
system analysis
Kinda need my undergrad first...
Ooo, in what?!
Dunno. I dropped out 30 years ago.
Wanted to teach high school.