A cure for colorblindness would be developed by the time gnome implements such a feature
Well, that's not entirely fair, the gnome developers are pushing the issue upstream to the people who can cure colorblindness, because honestly, isn't curing colorblindness the proper solution even if it takes longer?
"This is not how we meant it to look 🤓"
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Just like every other gnome feature right?
Why are people so toxic? This is a KDE post, at least celebrate the work being done instead of bashing people for no reason
I don't care what kde does. But gnome and gtk are legitimate attempts of sabotage on the linux desktop.
Then comment about it on posts about gnome, man. Or make your own separate post about the issues of gnome and gtk.
"Hot takes" about a different piece of software don't do anything for discussion of the actual topic of this post.
I mean people are going to put their hot takes wherever made them think of it. Just down vote and don't engage. Unless especially egregious then report them
A feature exists for 1 day in KDE and we're already bashing Gnome for its slow dev time?
Let's check a year later
*18 years later
You know you can edit your own posts right? No need to do something like this.
Good to know. I will say as a colorblind person, it's always a tad ironic because as a colorblind person, the filters don't make things definitive. It's still a bunch of random colors that I can't identify lol
What are your biggest pet peeves as a color blind person? In software, I mean.
Not colorblind, but my guess would be the colors.
This made me chortle
Those global overlay filters that tint the whole screen never seem to do anything for me at all.
On the other hand, the ones that change specific colours (enemy tags are blue instead of green, for example) are a huge help.
Partially red green colorblind here. There's really no pet peeves, but sometimes if I must identify the color/color accent, it takes focus.
Great question. Had to think about it and I'd say for me personally, poor implementation of color pickers is the biggest frustration.
As a technical user, I have no qualms w/ editing the default selection if it's hard to read due to colors, but I get frustrated with poor color picker implementation. For example, color swaths that don't have named descriptions when you hover over them. Even/especially the standard ROYGBIV colors on the first page of a color picker, but also to a lesser degree, descriptive hex codes on more nuanced online color pickers. I can't tell the difference and don't feel like hearing someone ask why I made the bold choice of making the sky pink.
if this changes all colors with a global filter the way that some games like Overwatch (used to) do, then it's really not going to help anyone. I'm red-green colorblind, so when something is highlighted in red it isn't as obvious to me as it is to people with normal vision. However, the fix isn't too globally mess with all the colors, the fix is to let me pick the highlight color so that I can choose what works best for me. Many games have figured this out long ago (thank you game devs!).
The funniest is when game devs accidentally implement a mode that simulates colour blindness instead of helping colour blindness.
Yeah, I mean doing that makes sense for internal testing, but why the hell would you make it public... Did this actually happen?
Well, they do already have that as part of their normal theming options. There's just software where KDE's theming doesn't apply, like games and webpages, and best they can do for those, is to offer such filters...
best they can do for those, is to offer such filters
well I'm sure some people will find it useful, but in my experience global filters make a global mess of everything without doing much of anything to alleviate the problem. Lucky for people like me, many games already have better options, and in other applications it usually isn't much of a problem
Do you mean the global filters change every colour making all the colours wrong/different, and you want to be able to override just the ones you have trouble with? I've never looked at colourblind options before so I'm not sure what they do.
yeah those ones, they completely mess up all colors and still don't help
Lol OW was the first thing I thought of.
Me: hey look a protan filter
OW: okay, red is now pink, and everything else is washed out :)
Me: okay tritan it is
OW: lol have fun on your acid trip
I have the same, why wouldnt this help?
oh it would for simple graphics like graphs/charts, but it'd be worse than useless for everything else like pictures / photos / video. That's why I mentioned Overwatch as the example, which was the most egregious offender of this. If you turned on the colorblind mode in that game back when it was first introduced, it just chroma hue shifted all colors making it look like this:
how anyone with a functioning eye and brain ever thought that was the solution is beyond me
Not colorblind here but that looks more like a colorblindness simulator than anything else.
A cure for colorblindness would be developed by the time gnome implements such a feature
Well, that's not entirely fair, the gnome developers are pushing the issue upstream to the people who can cure colorblindness, because honestly, isn't curing colorblindness the proper solution even if it takes longer?
"This is not how we meant it to look 🤓"
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HAHAHAHAHA Just like every other gnome feature right?
Not to mention it's being discussed as a feature for the desktop itself and being designed for 2 years now, way before KDE and elementary started implementing it: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/issues/1401
Why are people so toxic? This is a KDE post, at least celebrate the work being done instead of bashing people for no reason
I don't care what kde does. But gnome and gtk are legitimate attempts of sabotage on the linux desktop.
Then comment about it on posts about gnome, man. Or make your own separate post about the issues of gnome and gtk.
"Hot takes" about a different piece of software don't do anything for discussion of the actual topic of this post.
I mean people are going to put their hot takes wherever made them think of it. Just down vote and don't engage. Unless especially egregious then report them
A feature exists for 1 day in KDE and we're already bashing Gnome for its slow dev time?
Let's check a year later
*18 years later
You know you can edit your own posts right? No need to do something like this.
Good to know. I will say as a colorblind person, it's always a tad ironic because as a colorblind person, the filters don't make things definitive. It's still a bunch of random colors that I can't identify lol
What are your biggest pet peeves as a color blind person? In software, I mean.
Not colorblind, but my guess would be the colors.
This made me chortle
Those global overlay filters that tint the whole screen never seem to do anything for me at all.
On the other hand, the ones that change specific colours (enemy tags are blue instead of green, for example) are a huge help.
Partially red green colorblind here. There's really no pet peeves, but sometimes if I must identify the color/color accent, it takes focus.
Great question. Had to think about it and I'd say for me personally, poor implementation of color pickers is the biggest frustration.
As a technical user, I have no qualms w/ editing the default selection if it's hard to read due to colors, but I get frustrated with poor color picker implementation. For example, color swaths that don't have named descriptions when you hover over them. Even/especially the standard ROYGBIV colors on the first page of a color picker, but also to a lesser degree, descriptive hex codes on more nuanced online color pickers. I can't tell the difference and don't feel like hearing someone ask why I made the bold choice of making the sky pink.
Another issue is something like KDE's Konsole has a color picker that doesn't have clear names/examples for which aspect of the terminal is being changed, so when I wanted to change the bash custom prompt color to improve readability, I had to edit 5-6 different options, and use trial and error to fix the color.
if this changes all colors with a global filter the way that some games like Overwatch (used to) do, then it's really not going to help anyone. I'm red-green colorblind, so when something is highlighted in red it isn't as obvious to me as it is to people with normal vision. However, the fix isn't too globally mess with all the colors, the fix is to let me pick the highlight color so that I can choose what works best for me. Many games have figured this out long ago (thank you game devs!).
The funniest is when game devs accidentally implement a mode that simulates colour blindness instead of helping colour blindness.
Yeah, I mean doing that makes sense for internal testing, but why the hell would you make it public... Did this actually happen?
yep, sure did: https://old.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/5uw5cs
Well, they do already have that as part of their normal theming options. There's just software where KDE's theming doesn't apply, like games and webpages, and best they can do for those, is to offer such filters...
well I'm sure some people will find it useful, but in my experience global filters make a global mess of everything without doing much of anything to alleviate the problem. Lucky for people like me, many games already have better options, and in other applications it usually isn't much of a problem
Do you mean the global filters change every colour making all the colours wrong/different, and you want to be able to override just the ones you have trouble with? I've never looked at colourblind options before so I'm not sure what they do.
yeah those ones, they completely mess up all colors and still don't help
Lol OW was the first thing I thought of.
Me: hey look a protan filter
OW: okay, red is now pink, and everything else is washed out :)
Me: okay tritan it is
OW: lol have fun on your acid trip
I have the same, why wouldnt this help?
oh it would for simple graphics like graphs/charts, but it'd be worse than useless for everything else like pictures / photos / video. That's why I mentioned Overwatch as the example, which was the most egregious offender of this. If you turned on the colorblind mode in that game back when it was first introduced, it just
chromahue shifted all colors making it look like this:how anyone with a functioning eye and brain ever thought that was the solution is beyond me
Not colorblind here but that looks more like a colorblindness simulator than anything else.
Uhm I dont see red and green that well 😅