US asks Israel for ‘explanation’ of strike on Gaza refugee camp
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Israel’s strike on the Jabalia refugee camp has led to more intense pushback from the Biden administration.
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Here's how that exchange will go.
Israel: yes we bombed that refugee camp
US: Oh okay. Here's 2 billion more tax monies, carry on
Thanks for explaining. We just wanted to be sure.
Just to be in the clear it wasn’t us.
Billions being spent and everyone will wonder why inflation continues to hold strong a year from now.
If you want to blame someone for inflation, why not blame the companies posting record profits and raising prices?
I would love if you could explain the connection between these two things.
I have my macroeconomics books from college at hand, so so please take your time to be detailed as I won’t dislike reviewing my notes.
Narrator: there is nothing about spending 0.001% of GDP on foreign aid that is of significant impact to inflationary pressures, and OP is speaking out of their ass. To the point where when they fart it sounds like a god damn jazz band.
Is there an iamverysmart lemmy??
/u/Squizzy
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realize every dollar printed out of thin air devalues existing dollars in the marketplace.
How much GDP does this equate to? According to the Cost of War project at Brown University, the failed global “war on terror” cost $8 trillion and caused more than 900,000 deaths over the course of 20 years.
Ooohh, war on terror monies, So by that logic, inflation has been skyrocketing the last 22 years? Sounds like maybe the 5.18 trillion spend the last three years on top of the normal deficit government spending might contribute more to inflation than the cost of a war spread over two decades
What does the total sum of all funds spent for the last 20 years on GWOT have to do with foreign aid budgeted spending in 2023 to Israel?
These aren’t in the same budget category. The tax dollars spent on GWOT had significant effect in the United States ability to borrow as a government due to national debt increases, but that impact is seen directly in the increasing yearly amounts of tax revenue spent to repay that debt, not directly to inflation. Show me correlation in the first ten years of GWOT to CPI?
So let me get this right. You believe spending, as allocated in the budget for a fiscal year, in a category you do not even understand the limits of, for amounts you need to calculate in fractions of a percent of the budget, is a worthy mention of impact on inflationary pressure?
One where you improperly equate it with printing more money as a federal reserve economic control device, and assume aid = printed dollars instead of the majority of which is already existing assets in storage where packages are given dollar values for their worth?
Lol.
Continue to make loud noises out of thy ass while making false equivalence.
1947, a candy bar was a nickel. 2023, how many candy bars can you buy for a nickel?
They are learning and not realizing it. Let’s put down the macroeconomic books and go back to preschool and exchange the dollar bill with an Oreo cookie.
Everyone wants your cookie. It’s rare. It’s the only one. You know you can trade your cookie for supplies to feed your entire family. So you keep your cookie clean, free of stench and prepare to trade it.
Only now, 76 years has gone by and someone stole your recipe and made an infinite supply of your exact cookie.
What will your cookie get you now?
Every time the government prints money out of thin air, your saved dollar gets worth less and less. War drum, stimulus packages, infrastructure, all of it. If they “found the money” by writing up a bill to print money instead of sacrificing the public with extra taxes, the dollar was devalued.
That’s why the “haves” ended up with all the money when they invested in non-fiat stuff like housing or invested it in stocks that will grow with inflation.
The “have nots” rented and spent every dollar they made.
Hamas made me do it. The bloodstains on the walls are just ketchup and the children getting dragged from under the rubble are just paid actors. Please get your current president to condemn Hamas and give us a shout out, thanks.
Hamas bombed the refugee camp. We know what we initially said, but that was bad intelligence, also from Hamas. We have since learned that a stray rocket from Hamas was responsible for this and all future attacks on the refugee camp, of which there will be, shall we say, several.
I used to think Israel was an American colony, turns out is the other way around.
"Can you tell us what happened? We know its not your fault baby, promise not to get mad."
"We learned it by watching you!"
TIL the U.S. is Eric Cartman's mom irl.
But when it comes to any other country, they're much more like Kyle's mom.
"Because we can.
Now run along and get us more fucking money to bomb more refugees, or we'll tell your constituents back home you're an antisemite. Off you go."
Ah yes, the courageous stand of “I demand answers in a strongly-worded letter!” will surely stop the genocide of Palestinians
What a spineless bunch of fucks.
Don’t forget the repeated messages saying that they must defend themselves within international law.
US: Israel, why did you b?
Israel: Shut up Bitch.
US: Sorry, here is more money.
Edit: shit, I just saw someone had already made a similar comment but better.
Israel was just doing a genocide US. Everything is just fine 👌.
You guuuuuys! You guys are so baaad! ;)
It's a stark contrast of response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. It turns out there are limits to the "right to self defence" and those are mostly governed by public narrative.
Sadly, it's only the people in the disputed territories and their families that truly suffer consequences for their decision to salt the earth.
Ukraine and Palestine are the equals in this scenario not Ukraine and Israel
I think their point was, the US supports Isreal and Ukraine, but Ukraines support was conditional on them waging a humane war in self defense, but Isreal has no such restrictions, and the US has been incredibly slow to question them.
Edit - NM, re-read. It's simpler than that. Ukraine defending itself - good. Hamas defending itself (from a US ally) - bad.
It does kind of stretch "defending themselves" a bit far if it lumps the initial attack. Like, I get how you could somewhat justify it by saying it was the result of decades of apartheid oppression, but targeting innocents isn't exactly a great way go about that, and why most instantly rallied behind Ukraine after Russia started their war by indiscriminately targeting civilians as well.
First strike does matter, though.
It can't be the only thing that matters, but in both, our initial support went to the one attacked*.
Not saying this isn't important, but like literally every time hamas decides to do something this comes up.
If you consider how and why hamas was created, then no they aren't really the first strike. That would have been Israel back in 1949.
Not that it would have changed much in terms of USA support had it been the other way around, but first strike really needs to be not taken as some auto indicator of who is wrong, especially now that countries have figured out how easy it is to run false flags for publicity.
tbf though, I think this is the first time hamas ever launched a surprise attack that wasn't a direct response for a recent event.
https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties I agree with you that the first strike counts, but according to this source the first strike belongs to Israel. 165K Palestinians injured from 2008 till 7.10.23. don't know for you, but for me this is a staggering high number, vs. ... 6K
Yup, After a year long campaign to support Ukraine against Russian occupation, I have witnessed this change of tune too, and now suddenly living under occupation and fighting your oppressor is wrong.
Perhaps the unwavering support for the zionists is wavering a little.
Hallelujah. Wait.
Fuck the US (government not people) at this point. The hypocrisy is just vile.
Israeli forces have already released explanations regarding these strikes to the press:
First strike:
Second strike:
It seems like the US wants some press showing they are concerned, I would be surprised if they didn't already know exactly what is happening and why.
Oh good, pack it in everyone, the murderers said it was OK that they killed a bunch of innocent people.
It's like when bank robbers take a hostage everyone knows the standard protocol is to kill everyone in the building to get them.
"The Negotiator" would have apparently been a very different movie had it been produced in Israel. I wonder who the recast gets to replace Kevin Spacey?
Because a bank robbery is just like war between governments...? Collateral damage is a lot more common, normal, and acceptable in war than it is in police actions.