House Republicans Introduce Bill to Expel Palestinians From the Country

politics @lemmy.world – 185 points – 8 months ago

House Republicans Introduce Bill to Expel Palestinians From the Country

Republicans have a racist new idea amid the war on Gaza.

We need to expel House Republicans from the country. They are a far greater threat to America than Palestinians.

Good fucking luck with that though. Voting blue is the only way to do that, but Democrats largely are not motivating younger voters. Republicans with their scare tactics and xenophobia and racism, really fire up their base, the best Democrats really do is "hey, we're not that" which I mean... Good, but they don't fire up people to vote.

Democrats suck at motivting young voters, cause young voters don't want to vote for some living archaeological site that supports bullshit like Israels fascist extermination campaign WHILE providing them the weapons to do it.

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Oh but it does.

Didn't all the pro-palestine groups just threaten Biden with no votes unless ceasefire? It's almost like he's not actually the problem. How does this factor in their calculations?

There's something about the middle east that makes everyone adopt idiotic self defeating positions often with a pinch of moral bankruptcy. Can't quite put my finger on it (jk it's organized religion and nationalism).

The natural gas under Gaza is also a factor

And decades of colonialism to establish a state able to project power for Western interests in the middle east

It’s almost like he’s not actually the problem.

He is, though. As president he can easily put a lot of pressure on Israel to stop its genocide of Gazans.

not actually the problem.

He is, though. As president he can easily

I hear there's a huge difference between "not actually the problem" and "unfortunately not the solution."

By your logic, where "not the solution" is equal to "he is the problem, though", the penguins of Antarctica are specifically to blame for the post-pendemic economic collapse. They're not the solution, so by your logic they are the problem.

See how that works for the rest of us?

He's part of the problem because he keeps supporting Israel. He can either withdraw support or pressure support to stop bombing Gaza. With the situation as is, he's part of the problem.

Materially supporting genocide is very bad, though.

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Did they twist their mustaches at the same time?

Domestic fascists took some notes from their buddies abroad.

(The note was, "but hamas")

In case you needed to be reminded that the fascistic democrats are the moderates here.

Is this not a violation of the 14th amendment at all. What if some of the palestinians were born in america, even if the supreme court is radical, the 14th amendment is so clearly stated, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

It is clearly written, and they cannot interpret state being only states and not the federal government they must pass an amendment to overturn it, and it is clearly that the last line "Nor deny any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of laws", basicially states you cannot deny an american his right to being equal and does not state, if it is only state law and if they fuck with it, it could unleash all hell as now anyone could have there citizenship taken away by the federal government because of what nation they from.

That's a very misleading headline.

(The bill would) require the Department of Homeland Security to refrain from issuing visas or granting refugee, asylum, or temporary protected status to anyone holding a passport issued by the Palestinian Authority. It would also revoke visas and refugee or asylum status for anyone who was granted it on or after October 1.

Proposing a bill that stops new and recent visas is vastly different from wholesale booting all Palestinians from the country like the headline implies.

Still a shitheel move imo, but not mass ethnic "resettlement" the headline brings to mind.

Maybe just the ones who may be members of Hamas?

But yeah sure let’s codify the Muslim Ban into law (where I see this ending up).

Well, hamas is recognised as a terrorist organisation, the US is already probably arresting or deporting known members.

"Are you now or have you ever been in a terrorist organization"

They'd never think to lie right? Like, that'd be illegal something terrorists are very concerned about, and yet for some reason that question is on immigration, security clearance and gun sale background checks.

I'm quite sure there's a heightened background investigation for immigrants, but I like to make fun of the existence of that question.

Wildly speculating but... Having been a member of a terrorist organization may not itself be illegal. But submitting false sworn statements could be.

Well submitting false sworn statements definitely is illegal so you may have a point. Especially since it includes the "have you ever" part, instead of just currently.

“Are you now or have you ever been in a terrorist organization”

Probably end up with a lot of dumb fucks going "Hell Yeah I am, Brother! Trump 2024!"

CPAC: "We are all domestic terrorists"

The only time Republicans have ever spoken the truth.

Who was it who said "listen to conservatives: they'll tell you who they are" ?

"Are you now or have you ever been in a terrorist organization"

We even HAVE a McCarthy.

So.... you may think it's stupid, and lets be honest, anyone who answers "yes' is pretty freaking stupid.

but there are plenty of absolutely dumb-as-shit people. Why not leave it in there and let some of them sort themselves out.

Oh yeah sure, it doesn't hurt anything to leave it in lol

That’s what I thought, but I wasn’t sure if the policy was as explicit as something like “expel them all”. Maybe it is though.

I’m guessing it’s the same policy as with any other terror group. Prosecute them, jail them if guilty*

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__ __ __ __ __ __ __ *Not always, look up Guantanamo bay. Most surveillance laws post 9/11 are really scary and give a huge amount of power to nsa and fbi to watch over any American without a warrant. Check Edward Snowden on Wikipedia for more information

Most surveillance laws post 9/11 are really scary and give a huge amount of power to nsa and fbi to watch over any American without a warrant

It's cute how it actually tries to let them spy on adjacent countries, up to 100mi past the border (or, most of the habitable part of Canada).

As if they weren’t already spying on every nation they feel like it by simply outsourcing that to google

I wasn’t sure if the policy was as explicit as something like “expel them all”

FTA:

The Safeguarding Americans From Extremism Act would require the Department of Homeland Security to refrain from issuing visas or granting refugee, asylum, or temporary protected status to anyone holding a passport issued by the Palestinian Authority. It would also revoke visas and refugee or asylum status for anyone who was granted it on or after October 1.

It would also revoke visas and refugee or asylum status for anyone who was granted it on or after October 1.

That's a fucking dick move

Thanks!

Damn.