If this shit ever becomes reality I'm commiting corporate terrorism in Noita
Make Johny Silverhand proud
Silverhand was a goddamn hero
At the point ad-blockers are regarded as terrorism and gay sex is a capital crime, there's no reason not to play with explosives or enrich uranium.
In for a penny, in for a kilo of cobalt.
great now my top post on lemmy so far is about piss
Could've done even better if you had made your post about not pissing for three days.
i feel like this is oddly specific
Have you forgotten the classic "no poop for 3 days" post? It pretty much took over Lemmy for like a week.
i am... thankful i missed that discourse o.O
Could be worse princess
Well, maybe the people on lemmy just like piss that much.
Btw., my 2nd most popular comment is me promoting death wishes.
It only goes downhill from here
Terms of service were meant to be broken, they are a once-sided agreement that the other party never needs to uphold, there are no consequences for them if they don't. So I say the moment they try to screw you over give them a good punch in the face, there are some nasty ways to do that to online entities, some illegal, others just petty, some in grey areas (in real free countries none of them are illegal, because corporations aren't protected in places like that).
once-sided
Please show me the ways
Literally black mirror lol
I think it's Sony that has a patent on a TV that uses a camera and microphone so they can play ads that only stop when you stand up, raise your arms and shout "McDonalds!", for example. Not in Black Mirror, in real life.
They do, but we have to remember that big companies like that file patents all the time for concepts they never actually use. Apple is famous for it.
It's true, it's even possible they're sitting on it so nobody else can do it. But at the same time I feel like if they felt they could get away with it they'd do it. It's closer to reality than we'd like to think.
But the chances that any of them will be implemented are very slim.
I'm not familiar with black mirror. Is this literally in the literal sense of the word by definition or literally in the oxymoronic figurative sense?
As in that's somewhat happening in an episode of the series where ads are being forced onto the main character, and it paused when the MC close his eye because he didn't want to watch it.
This is why I don't give applications access to my webcam or microphone unless it's an application designed for video calls (ex. Zoom).
Oh my God that's horrifying
Watching the ad instead of clicking constitutes a violation of the terms of service
Watching the terms of service instead of clicking constitutes a violation of the ad.
Foot the bill directly
Too real. Facebook is currently attempting this "feature" in the EU
Am I the only one perfectly fine with that option?
Like...shit costs money. Somebody has to pay for it. Ultimately it's going to be advertisers, creators, or users. A company can't be comelled to offer a service at a loss without compensation indefinitely.
The big change I want to see is for payment to remove not only ads, but tracking as well.
I already pay not to have ads. I'll pay extra if it means they don't collect my data.
The concept that the internet doesn't cost money harkens back to the days when the only people who were hosting content were community driven enthusiasts. The fact that "shit costs money" is even an argument here is a symptom of the greater problem that corporatism has invaded a community space for profit.
I guess you can argue that corporatism has made the internet more accessible, to a degree. Really corporatism has only increased the exposure of a handful of social media sites. But that doesn't really change what their goal is, which is to squeeze money out of people trying to socialize.
Now that they have invaded what was once a space for enthusiasts and tech minds, made it into a people trap and scape money off the backend with metadata, the idea that they're now asking people directly for money that they can no longer make due to their government protecting them is grotesque and an absurd direction for services like these to go in.
Don't pretend like Facebook, youtube, et al don't make enough money hand over foot to just to cover their operating costs already. They're asking for money for profit. Billion dollar companies are now asking directly for profit because they can't extort a newly formed protection.
I suppose selling a better experience is one thing. There's legitimacy in that. Although selling a reprieve from a bad experience that you created (youtube) is a bit like creating a problem to sell the solution, which is still fucked.
The days before YouTube there wasn't free HD video hosting. We had things like Newgrounds which were way, way worse when it comes to ads and the videos were like 240p.
But it was mostly flash sites back then because video costs a ludicrous amount of money to host, and it was way worse then.
YouTube absolutely will not make money without either ads or fees.
Some governments are doing the right thing by giving people control over their information and how it's shared online, yes. And that does directly affect YouTube's profitability.
So now YouTube is being forced to offer users a choice in how they pay. That payment can take the form of cash or private information.
In the days before YouTube we were still working on a unified video player in browsers and internet speeds capable of handling videos. Also, think about how YouTube was before Google bought it. That was them making a modest amount of money to keep the lights on.
You know what has happened since then? Bought by a billion dollar company to make profit. That's the point
YouTube was hemorrhaging money. They were just trying to hold on long enough to find a buyer.
I suppose you're going to argue that other video hosting sites that are an objectively better experience than youtube can't last? Or that youtube is better now that it's owned by someone else?
The point is that online sites that are around to make profit are actively sapping online communities. It's what's happening to reddit as well.
I'm saying that any platform has to be financially viable. Bandwidth and servers cost money.
Name a platform that allows essentially unlimited uploads and hosting of HD video, doesn't have ads, is free for all users, and isn't losing money.
Ok, and I'm saying that a platform can make money without causing a privacy crisis that requires a government to step in. Plenty do.
I'm saying that the thing that makes sites more bloated and unpleasant is when they get retooled to squeeze every last drop of profit from their users.
We don't have to turn this disagreement into "sites need to make money" vs "everything should be free". There's a middle ground, in which my original point sits.
For some of us with smaller bladders it can be a problem. Installing the https://runpee.com/ app has been a game changer going to the movies. Tells you the best times to go pee and not miss anything.
Last time I tried to download that they wanted me to purchase a subscription service
I'd PaaS on that offer, smells suspicious.
I just love the pause button, but then while I enjoyed collective effervescence as a young boy watching Star Wars I get spooked by culty-acting crowds as an old man.
This old blog bit of mine might be relevant. TLDR: The owner / executive class is always on the market for stupid cruel ways to enhance revenues, increase productivity or just seize more control of workers and customers, even when these schemes have the opposite effect. And when they are implemented, we'll find ways to hack, circumvent or exploit the new paradigm.
nice edit.
but i can't call "the onion" a satire/humor these days anymore.
Me: Nuh uh man! Not me! I'm never gonna use youtube ever again!
Drink verification can now.
Instant classic that one.
If this shit ever becomes reality I'm commiting corporate terrorism in Noita
Make Johny Silverhand proud
Silverhand was a goddamn hero
At the point ad-blockers are regarded as terrorism and gay sex is a capital crime, there's no reason not to play with explosives or enrich uranium.
In for a penny, in for a kilo of cobalt.
great now my top post on lemmy so far is about piss
Could've done even better if you had made your post about not pissing for three days.
i feel like this is oddly specific
Have you forgotten the classic "no poop for 3 days" post? It pretty much took over Lemmy for like a week.
i am... thankful i missed that discourse o.O
Could be worse princess
Well, maybe the people on lemmy just like piss that much.
Btw., my 2nd most popular comment is me promoting death wishes.
It only goes downhill from here
Terms of service were meant to be broken, they are a once-sided agreement that the other party never needs to uphold, there are no consequences for them if they don't. So I say the moment they try to screw you over give them a good punch in the face, there are some nasty ways to do that to online entities, some illegal, others just petty, some in grey areas (in real free countries none of them are illegal, because corporations aren't protected in places like that).
once-sided
Please show me the ways
Literally black mirror lol
I think it's Sony that has a patent on a TV that uses a camera and microphone so they can play ads that only stop when you stand up, raise your arms and shout "McDonalds!", for example. Not in Black Mirror, in real life.
They do, but we have to remember that big companies like that file patents all the time for concepts they never actually use. Apple is famous for it.
It's true, it's even possible they're sitting on it so nobody else can do it. But at the same time I feel like if they felt they could get away with it they'd do it. It's closer to reality than we'd like to think.
... yet.
I mean you could say that about any of these patents too: https://gizmodo.com/apple-patents-iphone-mac-watch-windowless-car-vr-socks-1848951448
But the chances that any of them will be implemented are very slim.
I'm not familiar with black mirror. Is this literally in the literal sense of the word by definition or literally in the oxymoronic figurative sense?
As in that's somewhat happening in an episode of the series where ads are being forced onto the main character, and it paused when the MC close his eye because he didn't want to watch it.
Literally literal
1984 as well, at least in some aspects
What a funny joke!
This is why I don't give applications access to my webcam or microphone unless it's an application designed for video calls (ex. Zoom).
Oh my God that's horrifying
Watching the ad instead of clicking constitutes a violation of the terms of service
Watching the terms of service instead of clicking constitutes a violation of the ad.
Too real. Facebook is currently attempting this "feature" in the EU
Am I the only one perfectly fine with that option?
Like...shit costs money. Somebody has to pay for it. Ultimately it's going to be advertisers, creators, or users. A company can't be comelled to offer a service at a loss without compensation indefinitely.
The big change I want to see is for payment to remove not only ads, but tracking as well.
I already pay not to have ads. I'll pay extra if it means they don't collect my data.
The concept that the internet doesn't cost money harkens back to the days when the only people who were hosting content were community driven enthusiasts. The fact that "shit costs money" is even an argument here is a symptom of the greater problem that corporatism has invaded a community space for profit.
I guess you can argue that corporatism has made the internet more accessible, to a degree. Really corporatism has only increased the exposure of a handful of social media sites. But that doesn't really change what their goal is, which is to squeeze money out of people trying to socialize.
Now that they have invaded what was once a space for enthusiasts and tech minds, made it into a people trap and scape money off the backend with metadata, the idea that they're now asking people directly for money that they can no longer make due to their government protecting them is grotesque and an absurd direction for services like these to go in.
Don't pretend like Facebook, youtube, et al don't make enough money hand over foot to just to cover their operating costs already. They're asking for money for profit. Billion dollar companies are now asking directly for profit because they can't extort a newly formed protection.
I suppose selling a better experience is one thing. There's legitimacy in that. Although selling a reprieve from a bad experience that you created (youtube) is a bit like creating a problem to sell the solution, which is still fucked.
The days before YouTube there wasn't free HD video hosting. We had things like Newgrounds which were way, way worse when it comes to ads and the videos were like 240p.
But it was mostly flash sites back then because video costs a ludicrous amount of money to host, and it was way worse then.
YouTube absolutely will not make money without either ads or fees.
Some governments are doing the right thing by giving people control over their information and how it's shared online, yes. And that does directly affect YouTube's profitability.
So now YouTube is being forced to offer users a choice in how they pay. That payment can take the form of cash or private information.
In the days before YouTube we were still working on a unified video player in browsers and internet speeds capable of handling videos. Also, think about how YouTube was before Google bought it. That was them making a modest amount of money to keep the lights on.
You know what has happened since then? Bought by a billion dollar company to make profit. That's the point
YouTube was hemorrhaging money. They were just trying to hold on long enough to find a buyer.
I suppose you're going to argue that other video hosting sites that are an objectively better experience than youtube can't last? Or that youtube is better now that it's owned by someone else?
The point is that online sites that are around to make profit are actively sapping online communities. It's what's happening to reddit as well.
I'm saying that any platform has to be financially viable. Bandwidth and servers cost money.
Name a platform that allows essentially unlimited uploads and hosting of HD video, doesn't have ads, is free for all users, and isn't losing money.
Ok, and I'm saying that a platform can make money without causing a privacy crisis that requires a government to step in. Plenty do.
I'm saying that the thing that makes sites more bloated and unpleasant is when they get retooled to squeeze every last drop of profit from their users.
We don't have to turn this disagreement into "sites need to make money" vs "everything should be free". There's a middle ground, in which my original point sits.
For some of us with smaller bladders it can be a problem. Installing the https://runpee.com/ app has been a game changer going to the movies. Tells you the best times to go pee and not miss anything.
Last time I tried to download that they wanted me to purchase a subscription service
I'd PaaS on that offer, smells suspicious.
I just love the pause button, but then while I enjoyed collective effervescence as a young boy watching Star Wars I get spooked by culty-acting crowds as an old man.
This old blog bit of mine might be relevant. TLDR: The owner / executive class is always on the market for stupid cruel ways to enhance revenues, increase productivity or just seize more control of workers and customers, even when these schemes have the opposite effect. And when they are implemented, we'll find ways to hack, circumvent or exploit the new paradigm.
nice edit.
but i can't call "the onion" a satire/humor these days anymore.
Me: Nuh uh man! Not me! I'm never gonna use youtube ever again!
Youtube Ad-marshall: BRAIN-STAPLE THEM!
Rumble.com
we don't like nazis here