This really seems like something the FCC should be enforcing... T-Mobile has no authority to make anyone pay fines... Terms of Service are not legally binding like that. All they can do is refuse service, and report the activity if it's actually illegal.
They're enforcement would likely escalate to a stopping of message delivery from the offenders.
When you replace government regulations with self regulating corporation, this is the best we can hope for I guess.
…yes they do. This is for vendors that use/enter into a business relationship with T-Mobile directly to send short codes or SMS. I.e. companies like Vonage and Twilio.
You can absolutely enforce fees against your direct customers for certain behaviors.
This would not work for messages received from other telcos
FCC is kind of a joke.
Corp tells them what to do.
If FCC did what it's meant to do, we wouldn't have such crap mobile and Internet infrastructure, terrible privacy policies, etc etc.
Mmmmm, yeah, I'm going to need you to come in on Sunday, too... we kinda lost some people and we need to do a little catch-up also fine the bitches that handle the political bullshit, too, thaaaanks.
Like 4 years ago I started replying to these (political) unwanted messages with pretty hardcore yiff. The replies I get are great, and I don't think I've had the same campaign try twice since, but I'd rather just not see the shit at all. Add a 0 or three to that figure.
It's definitely meant that I will never, ever donate to a campaign again
Ditto for candidates that send me a bunch of flyers which go from my mailbox directly into the dumpster.
For me its the fireplace, still worse than random grocery advertisments.
I do the same! One goatse reply and they'll leave you alone usually
Like 4 years ago I started replying to these (political) unwanted messages with pretty hardcore yiff
Do it long enough and you'll find the marketing dude who's into it and just spams you more.
This means kink war. And I'm going to win.
Time to send you some political spam messages, eh?
;3
Isnt't it illegal?
Unfortunately no, I don't believe so. In the same vein that it's not illegal to send snail-mail ads and junk.
It's definitely meant that I will never, ever donate to a campaign again.
not you spamming us with the same comment twice
Cost of doing business. T-Mobile just demanding a slice of the action
Rules for thee but not for me huh?
Not sure what that means. I never get any messages from TMO unless it's a bill notification...
Per message? Or just per "incident"?
How does a company fine someone?
they ask nicely for money
We need to kill phone numbers like, yesterday. It’s too hard to change a phone number.
We need a way to give a unique number to everyone, record who we gave them to, enforce that only they can use it, and burn them at any time.
From what I've heard, it's very easy to change your phone number on T-Mobile.
Good luck getting all your 2FA changed on all your accounts. Good luck updating all your friends and family. Good luck informing every company you do business with.
You act like those aren't the reasons my number is getting changed.
IMHO, you shouldn't use your phone number for 2FA anyways.
I agree, but usually don’t have an option.
Fair ig.
I avoid this wherever possible, because the only reason to do it is to track you more. It's expensive and more complicated to set up than app 2fa which is free to operate.
Looks like a USA problem.
Idk about 2FA, but updating friends and family is insanely easy on most messaging platforms. I can update my phone number and then WhatsApp or Telegram will prompt those who chat with me that I've changed my number and they can switch to that number for chatting.
WhatsApp:
Notice received when the number is changed on WhatsApp:
Telegram:
As for contacting businesses, this seems like a personal situation, since I contact companies via the above messaging apps. So they will receive a notification about my updated number.
I'll verify if this is optional, so we can choose if people get that notice...
Edit:
You can't specify who gets informed. If you've blocked someone, they will not get that notification.
I've also added images above to demonstrate how it works on the two platforms I mentioned.
Spam callers don't seem to care what number they're dialing.
This really seems like something the FCC should be enforcing... T-Mobile has no authority to make anyone pay fines... Terms of Service are not legally binding like that. All they can do is refuse service, and report the activity if it's actually illegal.
They're enforcement would likely escalate to a stopping of message delivery from the offenders.
When you replace government regulations with self regulating corporation, this is the best we can hope for I guess.
…yes they do. This is for vendors that use/enter into a business relationship with T-Mobile directly to send short codes or SMS. I.e. companies like Vonage and Twilio.
You can absolutely enforce fees against your direct customers for certain behaviors.
This would not work for messages received from other telcos
FCC is kind of a joke. Corp tells them what to do. If FCC did what it's meant to do, we wouldn't have such crap mobile and Internet infrastructure, terrible privacy policies, etc etc.
Mmmmm, yeah, I'm going to need you to
come in on Sunday, too... we kinda lost some people and we need to do a little catch-upalso fine the bitches that handle the political bullshit, too, thaaaanks.Like 4 years ago I started replying to these (political) unwanted messages with pretty hardcore yiff. The replies I get are great, and I don't think I've had the same campaign try twice since, but I'd rather just not see the shit at all. Add a 0 or three to that figure.
It's definitely meant that I will never, ever donate to a campaign again
Ditto for candidates that send me a bunch of flyers which go from my mailbox directly into the dumpster.
For me its the fireplace, still worse than random grocery advertisments.
I do the same! One goatse reply and they'll leave you alone usually
Do it long enough and you'll find the marketing dude who's into it and just spams you more.
This means kink war. And I'm going to win.
Time to send you some political spam messages, eh?
;3
Isnt't it illegal?
Unfortunately no, I don't believe so. In the same vein that it's not illegal to send snail-mail ads and junk.
It's definitely meant that I will never, ever donate to a campaign again.
not you spamming us with the same comment twice
Cost of doing business. T-Mobile just demanding a slice of the action
Rules for thee but not for me huh?
Not sure what that means. I never get any messages from TMO unless it's a bill notification...
Per message? Or just per "incident"?
How does a company fine someone?
they ask nicely for money
We need to kill phone numbers like, yesterday. It’s too hard to change a phone number.
We need a way to give a unique number to everyone, record who we gave them to, enforce that only they can use it, and burn them at any time.
From what I've heard, it's very easy to change your phone number on T-Mobile.
Good luck getting all your 2FA changed on all your accounts. Good luck updating all your friends and family. Good luck informing every company you do business with.
You act like those aren't the reasons my number is getting changed.
IMHO, you shouldn't use your phone number for 2FA anyways.
I agree, but usually don’t have an option.
Fair ig.
I avoid this wherever possible, because the only reason to do it is to track you more. It's expensive and more complicated to set up than app 2fa which is free to operate.
Looks like a USA problem.
Idk about 2FA, but updating friends and family is insanely easy on most messaging platforms. I can update my phone number and then WhatsApp or Telegram will prompt those who chat with me that I've changed my number and they can switch to that number for chatting.
WhatsApp:
Notice received when the number is changed on WhatsApp:
Telegram:
As for contacting businesses, this seems like a personal situation, since I contact companies via the above messaging apps. So they will receive a notification about my updated number.
I'll verify if this is optional, so we can choose if people get that notice...
Edit:
You can't specify who gets informed. If you've blocked someone, they will not get that notification.
I've also added images above to demonstrate how it works on the two platforms I mentioned.
Spam callers don't seem to care what number they're dialing.
Fair point.
Is this per message, or...?