The amount of people who have commented to you with completely incorrect reasons for why you only do compressions is something else. They're all getting up voted, too.
But anyhow, for all of them: Single person cpr is non stop compressions at 100 to 120 bpm, non stop.
Two person cpr is the same rate, but two breaths every 30 compressions (2 every 15 for an infant).
Single person cpr is done that way now, because one person working by themselves can't manage to effectively do both for very long at all before starting to screw up or move to slow, and the compressions are most important. It basically takes to long to stop, move up towards the head, tilt the head back, open the mouth, give two appropriate breaths while looking for chest rise, then reposition and go back to compressions.
Trust me when I say that you'll be wore the heck out if you have to do 120 compressions a minute, almost hard enough to tear ribs from cartilage for more than a few minutes on your own. Adding in the breaths just isn't something that has been shown to pay off.
I have to do CPR training once per year, and almost every time they've changed the recommendations. I don't even remember the current recommendations now.
It's only changed once in about the past 15 years.
My instructors have been from Region Skåne the last few years, maybe they've been taught different things.
Non US? Might be. For us it stayed the same for like a decade and then switched to the current like two years ago.
Yes, Swedish. Also, for unrelated reasons I reacted a bit triggered in my previous reply and my canadian girlfriend said that I was being an arrogant european, and I'm sorry about that.
Didn't even notice, so no worries.
I got certified 6 months ago. They still (in the US) recommend 2 breaths every 30 compressions. For 2 people, one person manages the AED, and the other does CPR and you switch every 2 cycles, or whenever one person is too tired to continue.
Point is moot, you probably don't have enough mass, or lung volume to compress the chest and inflate the lungs on a giraffe.
(Iirc) It's actually reccommended not to do mouth-to-mouth because you'll probably do more damage than help.
I think it's not so much harm as it is not as effective as the compressions. When I took CPR the irradiated many times that compression is the place to be when performing CPR.
Irradiation during CPR course sounds brutal. Were you guys constantly under an x-ray?
I hate autocorrect so much sometimes lol
It is easy for you to over inflate someone's lungs when you are doing cpr. Especially if you are larger than them.
Depends on the situation. Coughing/choking/asphyxiating: no do not do mouth. Chest compressions and back blows. No consciousness and no heart beat: chest compressions and rescue breathes.
Of course do not do anything you are not trained in. However, if no one else is, your even if your cert has lapsed, good Samaritan laws are pretty lenient
Just got my certificate for first aid training and this is not true. It has changed a few times but atm mouth to mouth IS recommended. But if you can only do one then stick to compressions.
From what I understand, chest compressions move the lungs enough to equate to shallow breathing (as long as the airway is clear)
It's because there's still enough oxygen in the blood to keep the brain alive for quite a while, so long as you can keep moving different blood to the brain. The brain is what kills you and what needs the most oxygen, so just cycling the blood that's there will keep it from dying for quite a while.
I wouldn’t even know where to do the compressions on a giraffe. Call for a zoo employee is the best answer I can come up with.
(Those are some huge ass lungs, I don't think I am strong enough)
Official guidelines (in the US at least) suggest just doing chest compressions.
Ok ..... so if I see a giraffe collapse from a heart attack or some medical emergency and they are unconscious ... I should just concentrate on chest compressions ... got it, thanks 👍
This is the kind of information that will help me sleep at night.
Probably push quite a bit harder than you'd think unless it's a baby giraffe and then I'd probably push close to adult human level as in routine cpr training.
Write this down so you don't forget it.
Gonna print this out and laminate it onto a wallet sized card to keep in my pocket at all times
Ditto Canada
I don't see any other way of doing it.
Double team it?
If there is at least 1 other person to assist, I don't see it being too difficult. One person breathes, the other compresses. 🤷🏻♂️
This would require having a friend…
This is what long novelty straws were made for
Ah, yes! Another joke solved by Lemmy! Thank God nobody has to laugh at this amusing thought anymore. What an upsetting situation that would have been.
Would you rather everyone just say "lol" next post instead?
I made a shit comment, I'll admit. It's just frustrating to see multiple top-level comments in meme, 196, and shit post threads shitting all over a clever joke because of a technicality. It's a fucking giraffe, this is not a PSA.
Just do chest compressions only
Saw an elephant rescue a few days ago and the chest compression was a dude jumping on top of it.
Found a news article about it
The amount of people who have commented to you with completely incorrect reasons for why you only do compressions is something else. They're all getting up voted, too.
But anyhow, for all of them: Single person cpr is non stop compressions at 100 to 120 bpm, non stop.
Two person cpr is the same rate, but two breaths every 30 compressions (2 every 15 for an infant).
Single person cpr is done that way now, because one person working by themselves can't manage to effectively do both for very long at all before starting to screw up or move to slow, and the compressions are most important. It basically takes to long to stop, move up towards the head, tilt the head back, open the mouth, give two appropriate breaths while looking for chest rise, then reposition and go back to compressions.
Trust me when I say that you'll be wore the heck out if you have to do 120 compressions a minute, almost hard enough to tear ribs from cartilage for more than a few minutes on your own. Adding in the breaths just isn't something that has been shown to pay off.
I have to do CPR training once per year, and almost every time they've changed the recommendations. I don't even remember the current recommendations now.
It's only changed once in about the past 15 years.
My instructors have been from Region Skåne the last few years, maybe they've been taught different things.
Non US? Might be. For us it stayed the same for like a decade and then switched to the current like two years ago.
Yes, Swedish. Also, for unrelated reasons I reacted a bit triggered in my previous reply and my canadian girlfriend said that I was being an arrogant european, and I'm sorry about that.
Didn't even notice, so no worries.
I got certified 6 months ago. They still (in the US) recommend 2 breaths every 30 compressions. For 2 people, one person manages the AED, and the other does CPR and you switch every 2 cycles, or whenever one person is too tired to continue.
Point is moot, you probably don't have enough mass, or lung volume to compress the chest and inflate the lungs on a giraffe.
(Iirc) It's actually reccommended not to do mouth-to-mouth because you'll probably do more damage than help.
I think it's not so much harm as it is not as effective as the compressions. When I took CPR the irradiated many times that compression is the place to be when performing CPR.
Irradiation during CPR course sounds brutal. Were you guys constantly under an x-ray?
I hate autocorrect so much sometimes lol
It is easy for you to over inflate someone's lungs when you are doing cpr. Especially if you are larger than them.
Depends on the situation. Coughing/choking/asphyxiating: no do not do mouth. Chest compressions and back blows. No consciousness and no heart beat: chest compressions and rescue breathes.
Of course do not do anything you are not trained in. However, if no one else is, your even if your cert has lapsed, good Samaritan laws are pretty lenient
Just got my certificate for first aid training and this is not true. It has changed a few times but atm mouth to mouth IS recommended. But if you can only do one then stick to compressions.
From what I understand, chest compressions move the lungs enough to equate to shallow breathing (as long as the airway is clear)
It's because there's still enough oxygen in the blood to keep the brain alive for quite a while, so long as you can keep moving different blood to the brain. The brain is what kills you and what needs the most oxygen, so just cycling the blood that's there will keep it from dying for quite a while.
I wouldn’t even know where to do the compressions on a giraffe. Call for a zoo employee is the best answer I can come up with.
I got you fam
(Those are some huge ass lungs, I don't think I am strong enough)
Official guidelines (in the US at least) suggest just doing chest compressions.
Ok ..... so if I see a giraffe collapse from a heart attack or some medical emergency and they are unconscious ... I should just concentrate on chest compressions ... got it, thanks 👍
This is the kind of information that will help me sleep at night.
Probably push quite a bit harder than you'd think unless it's a baby giraffe and then I'd probably push close to adult human level as in routine cpr training. Write this down so you don't forget it.
Gonna print this out and laminate it onto a wallet sized card to keep in my pocket at all times
Ditto Canada
I don't see any other way of doing it.
Double team it?
If there is at least 1 other person to assist, I don't see it being too difficult. One person breathes, the other compresses. 🤷🏻♂️
This would require having a friend…
This is what long novelty straws were made for
Ah, yes! Another joke solved by Lemmy! Thank God nobody has to laugh at this amusing thought anymore. What an upsetting situation that would have been.
Would you rather everyone just say "lol" next post instead?
I made a shit comment, I'll admit. It's just frustrating to see multiple top-level comments in meme, 196, and shit post threads shitting all over a clever joke because of a technicality. It's a fucking giraffe, this is not a PSA.