Knew what this was before I even opened it. God, what a movie
Issue them, ICC.
Oh so Israel knows Netanyahu is committing war crimes.
Neither Israel nor the United States recognize the court's jurisdiction, though any warrants would put Israeli officials at risk of arrest in other countries, including much of Europe.
That’s a good look for USA. /s
Once again, we are shamefully shamed by our leaders.
Long story short congress has given blanket authority to any US president to rescue any American or allied personnel from ICC imprisonment by any means necessary.
Netanyahu could qualify as allied personnel.
The US could invade the Netherlands to free Netanyahu from the ICC without any sort of debate.
Countries with good intentions don’t shield themselves from accountability.
America is a terrorist state.
And NATO would be obligated to defend it, if the Netherlands asks for aid. Could get interesting.
The story behind it is that Clinton supported it, but it was very close to the end of his term and decided that the next Administration should take it up. Gore 100% would have gone ahead with it. We didn't get Gore.
IMO, there are other fundamental issues with the ICC, and they won't all be fixed by the US signing on. That said, by all means, charge Netanyahu. He deserves it.
It's been this way for decades. Some insecure people can't imagine how the US could ever form part of the international community and instead want to be able to get away with everything all the time.
Is it because they're criminals? Do you think?
What? No. This is a perfectly normal and rational fear. I even keep a can of ICC-Away in my kitchen.
If that were the case with the ICC there's also a huge list of people they should have arrested by now
Bibi sowing: Haha fuck yeah!!! Yes!!
Bibi reaping: Well this fucking sucks. What the fuck.
Oh no! Maybe they should stop executing noncombtants and aid workers.
Bibi deserves much, much worse than a cell in the Hague.
A noose in the Hague?
Brazen Bull in the Hague?
Panic! In the Hague
A moose in The Hague....
May your imagination run wild!
I can only hope they get the Nuremberg treatment.
It’s conflicting. I would like to see immediate lethal punishment but also want him to suffer in jail
Ideally I’d like him to rot in jail, and witness better leaders unfuck what he’s done to Israel and the region over the years. Forced to witness his ‘legacy’ dismissed as wrong and torn down.
Israel-Palestine couldn't be unfucked in Bibi's lifetime even if the greatest political minds worked on it. The area has been a mess since it was established, and both sides have been working to exterminate the other since before Netanyahu was born.
Like I get that 80 years ago something horrible happened, but these guys just keep on and on about how bad t is the only Jewish state in the world.
Why does that matter? Why is protecting an ethnostate so important?
I think the biggest factor is, even though we're talking about Jewish people, its also in christian dogma that jewish people inherit that land. So after ww2 when largely christian nations were restructuring the area, they made sure the jews get their holy land. At the expense of palestinians that werent even involved in the war.
And they could also get Jews out of Europe by giving them the promised land. Very convenient.
Because the Holocaust happened and although Jewish people weren't the only demographic to be murdered by nazis, they did face the brunt of it. Add to that a 2000 yr diaspora and you can see why they would like a homeland.
The problem is Palestinian people lived on that land for 2000 years so they have a right to it as well.
Imo the best thing to do is divide Israel in half and give Jewish and Palestinian equal portions. But we're a long way from that happening, if ever.
They are hardly the only diaspora that's been through traumatic events. Ethnostates always end up this way.
And?
And we shouldn't be forcing anyone out to make new ethnostates. It's the worst form of colonialism.
Where did I say force anyone out?
You don't need to say it. It's implied in colonialism.
The thing I've seen bandied about is a UN-administrated state combining both territories, policed by UN forces until a proper bipartisan government consisting of Israelis AND Palestinians is elected, ready, and able to take control - and even then subject to "hey we'll come back if things get bad again".
"Hahaha nooo don't make me find out after fucking around haha lol"
Lock him up!
So... who is going to be marching into Israel to make the arrest?
That's not how it works. If a warrant is issued then any country that is a signatory is obligated to arrest him if he sets foot in their territory.
Ah gotcha so he just never leaves Israel or no one ever acts on the arrest warrant.
The ICC issuing an arrest warrant would also erode the legitimacy of the administration internationally. A head of state that can’t visit other heads of states tends to become a lame duck, especially when they’re not an autocrat.
Israeli officials are coveted by the Hague invasion act, so this could get fun. I say still try and make Biden show his whole ass
Hope Biden gets an arrest warrant too before the election
Oh just fucking stop already.
Funny how everyone excuses the main figure that makes this Genocide possible as the "savior of democracy".
I'm not excusing anything, don't be so presumptuous. I'm just tired of reading your sophomoric takes.
The main figure making this genocide possible is Netanyahu... do you think Biden is calling up his buddy every night saying "I know it's hard and they hate you but stay the course little Bibi."
Biden has a significant role in this but lets dial back the fucking hyperbole.
The main figure who makes this possible is Netanyahu you weirdo
Without Bidens support this would be over in a day.
Whereas israel has an entire cabinet of warmongers and Netanyahu only represents a fraction of this.
All the weapons and money that make this possible are American. Israel would have been out of ammo a long time ago without Genocide Joe resupplying them 100+ times.
Yeah that's not going to happen. We haven't done anything about a president that got thousands of soldiers killed by lying to start a sexier war and we're barely working on charging the one that tried to stage a palace coup. Military aid to war crimes is way down the list.
We also didn't do anything about the President that sabotaged peace talks to win an election.
You know I know about that but it just doesn't live at the top of my head the same way. Probably because while I'm old, I ain't that old.
If you didn't want to get arrested by the ICC maybe you shouldn't have committed so many fucking crimes you assholes.
He’s just trying to complete that Geneva checklist… /sarcasm
Geneva convention genocide ending speed run
https://youtu.be/lbOtyWTRZ_g?si=41YtXMEHmS757cck
Knew what this was before I even opened it. God, what a movie
Issue them, ICC.
Oh so Israel knows Netanyahu is committing war crimes.
That’s a good look for USA. /s
Once again, we are shamefully shamed by our leaders.
It gets better: check out The Hague Invasion Act.
Long story short congress has given blanket authority to any US president to rescue any American or allied personnel from ICC imprisonment by any means necessary.
Netanyahu could qualify as allied personnel.
The US could invade the Netherlands to free Netanyahu from the ICC without any sort of debate.
Countries with good intentions don’t shield themselves from accountability.
America is a terrorist state.
And NATO would be obligated to defend it, if the Netherlands asks for aid. Could get interesting.
The story behind it is that Clinton supported it, but it was very close to the end of his term and decided that the next Administration should take it up. Gore 100% would have gone ahead with it. We didn't get Gore.
IMO, there are other fundamental issues with the ICC, and they won't all be fixed by the US signing on. That said, by all means, charge Netanyahu. He deserves it.
It's been this way for decades. Some insecure people can't imagine how the US could ever form part of the international community and instead want to be able to get away with everything all the time.
Is it because they're criminals? Do you think?
What? No. This is a perfectly normal and rational fear. I even keep a can of ICC-Away in my kitchen.
If that were the case with the ICC there's also a huge list of people they should have arrested by now
Bibi sowing: Haha fuck yeah!!! Yes!!
Bibi reaping: Well this fucking sucks. What the fuck.
Oh no! Maybe they should stop executing noncombtants and aid workers.
Bibi deserves much, much worse than a cell in the Hague.
A noose in the Hague?
Brazen Bull in the Hague?
Panic! In the Hague
A moose in The Hague....
May your imagination run wild!
I can only hope they get the Nuremberg treatment.
It’s conflicting. I would like to see immediate lethal punishment but also want him to suffer in jail
Ideally I’d like him to rot in jail, and witness better leaders unfuck what he’s done to Israel and the region over the years. Forced to witness his ‘legacy’ dismissed as wrong and torn down.
Israel-Palestine couldn't be unfucked in Bibi's lifetime even if the greatest political minds worked on it. The area has been a mess since it was established, and both sides have been working to exterminate the other since before Netanyahu was born.
Like I get that 80 years ago something horrible happened, but these guys just keep on and on about how bad t is the only Jewish state in the world.
Why does that matter? Why is protecting an ethnostate so important?
I think the biggest factor is, even though we're talking about Jewish people, its also in christian dogma that jewish people inherit that land. So after ww2 when largely christian nations were restructuring the area, they made sure the jews get their holy land. At the expense of palestinians that werent even involved in the war.
And they could also get Jews out of Europe by giving them the promised land. Very convenient.
Because the Holocaust happened and although Jewish people weren't the only demographic to be murdered by nazis, they did face the brunt of it. Add to that a 2000 yr diaspora and you can see why they would like a homeland.
The problem is Palestinian people lived on that land for 2000 years so they have a right to it as well.
Imo the best thing to do is divide Israel in half and give Jewish and Palestinian equal portions. But we're a long way from that happening, if ever.
They are hardly the only diaspora that's been through traumatic events. Ethnostates always end up this way.
And?
And we shouldn't be forcing anyone out to make new ethnostates. It's the worst form of colonialism.
Where did I say force anyone out?
You don't need to say it. It's implied in colonialism.
The thing I've seen bandied about is a UN-administrated state combining both territories, policed by UN forces until a proper bipartisan government consisting of Israelis AND Palestinians is elected, ready, and able to take control - and even then subject to "hey we'll come back if things get bad again".
"Hahaha nooo don't make me find out after fucking around haha lol"
Lock him up!
So... who is going to be marching into Israel to make the arrest?
That's not how it works. If a warrant is issued then any country that is a signatory is obligated to arrest him if he sets foot in their territory.
Ah gotcha so he just never leaves Israel or no one ever acts on the arrest warrant.
The ICC issuing an arrest warrant would also erode the legitimacy of the administration internationally. A head of state that can’t visit other heads of states tends to become a lame duck, especially when they’re not an autocrat.
Israeli officials are coveted by the Hague invasion act, so this could get fun. I say still try and make Biden show his whole ass
Hope Biden gets an arrest warrant too before the election
Oh just fucking stop already.
Funny how everyone excuses the main figure that makes this Genocide possible as the "savior of democracy".
Genocide Joe Biden is lying and violating international law to make this Genocide possible
I'm not excusing anything, don't be so presumptuous. I'm just tired of reading your sophomoric takes.
The main figure making this genocide possible is Netanyahu... do you think Biden is calling up his buddy every night saying "I know it's hard and they hate you but stay the course little Bibi."
Biden has a significant role in this but lets dial back the fucking hyperbole.
The main figure who makes this possible is Netanyahu you weirdo
Without Bidens support this would be over in a day.
Whereas israel has an entire cabinet of warmongers and Netanyahu only represents a fraction of this.
All the weapons and money that make this possible are American. Israel would have been out of ammo a long time ago without Genocide Joe resupplying them 100+ times.
Yeah that's not going to happen. We haven't done anything about a president that got thousands of soldiers killed by lying to start a sexier war and we're barely working on charging the one that tried to stage a palace coup. Military aid to war crimes is way down the list.
We also didn't do anything about the President that sabotaged peace talks to win an election.
You know I know about that but it just doesn't live at the top of my head the same way. Probably because while I'm old, I ain't that old.