Reddit threatens replacing moderators from privated subreddits, citing vandalism and squatting.

tacticaltweaker@kbin.social to Reddit Migration@kbin.social – 259 points –
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Spez said in an interview I saw a few minutes ago that they would not be forcing subs open. Do you mean to tell me Spez -- Steve Huffman, CEO of Reddit -- is a liar? Who woulda thunk it?

They're not though, they're just forcibly replacing mods who don't want to open with ones who do want to open...

Totally different 🙃

You see it's not like that, reddit will authorize new mods and those mods will open the subs back up, see reddit really has not responsibility for what their hand selected mods do.

This strikes me more as "this is literally what the rules say" rather than being targeted at anything specific. It would be insane to start actually ousting mods across the entire site for a couple days of a pre-planned, short-lived blackout. The community already seems to be angrily demanding the mods reopen, and most have reopened anyway, so there is nothing Reddit admins actually have to do.

really? i was part of the biggest wrestling forum on the planet and that's gone, possibly for good. that's a big deal for a niche interest but everyone i've seen or interacted with is fine migrating to discord and the kbin. the only issue is what to do about the archive.

It's not getting as much discussion time around these parts but Discord seems like its gonna be the true reddit successor. Honestly, this makes me sad because Discord feels like jumping into a stream of consciousness.

Discord seems like its gonna be the true reddit successor.

Not disagreeing that the masses will likely flock to it due to brand recognition and such ...

But man does that make me sad too... Really hate how locked down Discord is in comparison (like you can't even browse content without a login and using from the browser is painful compared to using a client). Add in their past (and possibly present) privacy issues and the fact that like Reddit, they are also a centralized site run by another greedy company and I feel like this is yet another recipe for disaster (albeit one that might take awhile to fully materialize)

I've found it to be really frustrating to have a "true" conversation on discord. "2 people typing..." before you even have a chance to write somethubfb

Discord?!? Really?!? The Microsoft owned chat app that was at one time primarily used by gamers and their guild/squad/herd? I don’t understand how that would be a viable solution to anything.

Meh. Anyone who continues to use reddit and browse those communities, many of which voted to go dark in the first place, deserves whatever reddit serves them.

Reddit showing its hand. The blackout obviously is having an impact. Once all the dedicated mods are gone the site will go to shit.

As much as the thought may be comforting, it might take a long time for the site to really go to shit, if it will ever. Most likely, not a lot would change

I think a lot will change but I agree with you for the site staying relevant for many more years. It will just not be as good as it once was (and I say that with a 14 years old reddit account). It has been slowly going down for a long time, now there is a quick mini downfall but business will continue as usual until thy've squished all the money they could get out of it. And then it dies.

Lukewarm and probably accurate take. We're looking at the beginning of a long, drawn out end.

This is a balanced take. Reddit probably is ok with new front page subs taking over. I guess newer users who don't care about 3rd party apps will take over as core users.

I look forward to the chaos of reddit replacing the moderation teams of 5000 subs with shills.

if there is no consensus, but at least one mod [...]

ooh, so is that an invitation for backstabbing within mod teams now?

Even if there is no backstabbing, they'll depose all of the admins. Especially those who have lost their interest in moderating... And no pesky popular opinion will stop them from keeping their platform active and fun for everybody...

Well kbin, you’re stuck with me I suppose, using shreddit to delete my history and account…

Honestly the best move now is to overwrite all your comments with replies from chatgpt, since AI's hate feeding from other AI answers. It's like poisoning the well.

4 more...

They seem entirely content with burning it down and seeing what they're left with after. Not even pretending to play nice anymore.

This is probably true. The front page is not barren, there's plenty of users being active. The subs I frequented are still dark so there's nothing for me, but it's clear that Reddit isn't going to start begging for us back yet.

So the admins that were okay with u/awkwardtheturtle being a powermod are now just all of a sudden serious about quickly enforcing rules against protesting mods?

Reddit acting as it they made these communities themselves, not that those mods came up with the concepts and then nurtured those communities over years

scab mods... here they come! Good luck!

If the mods can be scabs, so too are the users who return to the site.

That's not the attitude of someone who's confident that his flock will come back.

We regularly enforce our subreddit and moderator-level rules. As you point out, this means that we have policies and processes in place that address inactive moderation (Rule 4). . . .

Ohhhh, is that why there's a cabal of power mods, "curated" secondary versions of communities, and why I gave up and restarted one of them over here. It's because we were regularly addressing squatters

100%.

This isn’t their first rodeo. They did this to gun sun mods who were posting memes about “boogaloo boys” and the mods were like “meh”

Even after they made changes they still installed mods.

Where are these curated secondary versions of communities? I'd like to see them myself.

Reddit digging their own grave. Oh well. I’m liking kbin. 😊👍

Still getting used to things here, but I have to say dark mode is damned nice.

So far my major issue is 'why isn't the reply thing right at the bottom of the post and is instead at the bottom of the replies?'

@skellener eee, two different things. kbin and the fedisomethingverse is a different thing. besides it doesn't have r/sevenseaslinuxisos. Yet. or r/worldnews (anime titties).

@tacticaltweaker

I feel like I've been waiting for the shoe to drop over at Reddit for years now. Honestly freeing to gtfo of there.

Deplorable. Obviously inevitable, but deplorable nonetheless. Definitely not going back to reddit now.

I hope those mods get their final paycheck. Probably have a lot of PTO they can cash out too.

Hopefully they make at least as much as unpaid interns do.

subs with a very specific culture and ruleset are about to go completely to shit. I cannot imagine staff moderators know anything about the sub, the topic, the sub's history, and it's users, and why previous mods established particular rules or customs over the years. reddit is dead lol.

Oh good. Replace the experienced mods with powerhungry nobodies who have no idea what they are doing. Especially without the help of the needed tools.

Fantastic idea spez. There is no way this will end up in a shitshow in a myriad of ways. You dumb fucking buffoon.

pretty much called that when the blackout first started. reddit isn't going to just let their company sink. they'll forcefully remove mods. that isn't even the most unethical thing they've done over the years.

Color me shocked </s> downplaying the blackout at first, now that it's shown to not just be a 48hr thing, they are trying to force the mods hands to reopen. And if they don't reopen, then they will force them to reopen by replacing the mod team. This should all be documented from every mod team that has been threatened and their private notices should reflect the threats Reddit is giving them.

I feel like vandalism and squatting are 2/3 of their holy trinity of sub closure,along with brigading. It was always going downhill(joined 11 yes ago) and people were griping then about the same things they do now. 2016 however,it went over a cliff,with sub's shut down left and right. And they claimed those same 3 reasons back then.

hoping they don't remove me. i temporary privated my sub for mental health reasons because people were getting mad at me for joining the protest when i was opening back up

i made my sub during a very rough time in my life and i'd rather not lose it. i've been thinking about alternate ways of protesting but idk right now.

It's okay :) hold onto it. I would advise making a copy of it here should you so choose. <3

@tacticaltweaker it said there was an option for some mods to return who were willing to moderate. I wonder if they could come back as saboteurs. Is there an option to set all new posts as "require approval before showing?" They could just be really slow at approving new posts. It could extend things at least a few days.

“These VOLUNTEERS must continue providing me FREE LABOR regardless what I do so that my website maintains value before I make millions off its IPO”

@tacticaltweaker so in other words they are a company and it's electronic private property, if a bunch of people leave. They'll look for or promote new people. Meh, that's business...i don't get get how a single app can cause so much drama.

For me, it's not the app but u/spez. He lies, manipulates and tried to discreetly insult the community. It doesn't feel right for me to remain there.