Why did I just read an article about using an iPod that was clearly written by someone born in the early-mid 2000s? I know the original ipod was fun. I was there, gandalf
Yeah, there's an interest in Y2K era tech amongst some gen-Z people. I think it's cool, idk why you're hating.
I've never understood it, but there's a lot of gatekeeping when it comes to older products. Some people think they have more rights to enjoy a product they knew existed for longer and it's really strange behaviour.
I see a lot of younger people wondering why so many people my age liked this or that and it helps to have it in context. Like "what's so great about half life? Every shooter ever is like that!" Ah, but you see, my young friend, that's now. Everything is like Half Life because Half Life changed the landscape. Not really gatekeeping, but you do lose a lot of what made a thing special if you're only looking at it without the historical context.
Basically, the "Seinfeld is not funny" trope (insert TVTropes link and disclaimer)
To be fair, Seinfeld is not funny. Never watched it live, tried to watch it recently starting at season 1, horrible.
Cool story. What a fresh take that nobody has seen before lol
And season 1 sucks
It's not gatekeeping, but a frustration about a new generation coming to an obvious conclusion, that they already had.
Why do people get frustrated about that? Someone is experiencing something for the first time, it's the circle of life.
I'm in my mid 30s and my wife bought a record player during the revival of records last decade. Do you think older generations than me found that frustrating? Personally I think it's fascinating to watch technology go full circle generation by generation
Interesting discussion to have witnessed as an outsider.
Is an article written for a a writers expression or a readers enjoyment. (Both?)
I dont think they where frustrated with the writers enjoyment but rather disappointed that the article was a first discovery opinion rather then a veterans rediscovery from a modern point of view which would have been more useful to reflect their own opinion and thus be more personally entertaining. The negativity goed inwards perceiving it as a waste of their time.
Great analysis, you're got it spot on there. It's frustration from learning nothing new from something they thought would be interesting. That probably all boils down to bad the title of the article not being descriptive enough.
I don't think it's hating. More just questioning their own decision to read the article.
IDK why you interpreted their comment as hating.
Nintendo DS sales are crazy popular right now too. They like our tech like we liked our parents' Ataris.
Parents?? That was my first console. How young is everyone here?
Intellivision was where it was at though, right?
Everything except that monstrosity of a controller.
Hell nah! We need to normalize controllers with replaceable faceplates that come with each and every game.
Preach!
Space War :).
Only the rich kids had that. The baseball was awesome though.
My first console was an Atari 2600 clone in 1994!
Eastern block vibes
To be fair, the 2600 is 47 years old, you'd have to be 52 at a minimum to remember it launching and 42 to remember the NES. I just remember loving my Atari 2600 all the way in the 90s.
I'm 42. I always got systems later than other kids. The Atari was in the house ever since I could form memories, and I finally got an NES in 1990, when the SNES and Genesis/Mega drive were on the horizon.
Then the Atari was already very old by the time you started forming memories, so it would have been your parent's generation. It was 4 years old when you were born.
Theres a reason retro consoles are a huge hit right now. Even emulation consoles like the Miyoo Mini Plus.
No micro transactions?
Naw, no hate. iPods are fuckin rad. Younger generations should definitely get to enjoy older tech. But the author’s observations weren’t really anything I needed to invest my time in reading. I know old iTunes had a visualizer. I don’t know why I read the whole thing anyways
I’m not quite that young.
So we can laugh at the fact that they can't find a simple 1394 to USB cable and instead rely on daisy chaining a hundred dollars worth of apple products to make it work...
Holy shit.
a hundred dollars worth of apple products
What's that, like, one cable?
Hahaha - no, that’s just the little clippy bit at the end of the cable. The cable’s extra.
I didn't buy those adapters, I just used a computer that had a FireWire 400 port. I haven't found any evidence of those direct USB cables working with old iPods.
Man... I wish I still had my Zune 😩
Ditto. Mine was stolen out of my car 9 years ago and I still miss it.
A ton more fun once you flash rockbox onto it.
I'd love to get my hands on even a decent condition 1st gen iPod, but people want insane amounts for them now. Even my 5.5 gen was more than i wanted to pay but nearly mint.
If RockBox still exists you could put that on iPods and play FLAC
It still exists
Playstation portable was one the best mp3 player to be made
I really want an mp3 player right now - my last one broke and I don't want to carry a phone instead. But it seems like they're either ultra-cheap, overpriced or don't have features I need (like Bluetooth). It is so sad that the midrange audio players pretty much disappeared now. So instead looking as DIY projects, cannot believe.
The original ipod looks very cool btw, even if I would never use one myself - way too large.
I am using a Hifi Walker H2. It is a reasonable price, has bluetooth and no capacitive touch inputs. The UI is not great but the device is physically solid and works for me.
I pre-ordered a Tangara on their crowd funding. I am hopeful about the opensource hardware and software. Only reservation is capacitive touch scroll wheel.
Get a cheap used phone with a headphone port and sd card slot?
Why necessarily "used"? Also I have this exact thing already. I just wanted a device that has no cell connectivity option and thus no tracking, and also (maybe even more importantly) - is smaller and lighter. Going for sports with a phone is inconvenient af.
To save it from the dumpster.
They don’t call them “mp3 players” anymore - that may be why you can’t find what you need. Look for a “DAP” instead - digital audio player - and you’ll probably have more luck.
For example, the Fiio M7 is $200 and is pretty full-featured. I have the M6 and I think I paid around $100, but I don’t think it’s being sold anymore.
What I looked for were product categories. Ye, seen these models. $200 is very, very expensive for me, it would be weird to spend on a player more than you would on a phone.
I still use my iPod Classic. I can plug it into my car for when I'm out of FM range, and I have a Bluetooth adapter for it that plugs into the headphone socket & lets me listen via my hearing aids. It's better than a phone for me, because the mobile signal is weak where I live, and most of my garden is out of WiFi range. It fits all my music and still has room for podcasts.
Why did I just read an article about using an iPod that was clearly written by someone born in the early-mid 2000s? I know the original ipod was fun. I was there, gandalf
Yeah, there's an interest in Y2K era tech amongst some gen-Z people. I think it's cool, idk why you're hating.
I've never understood it, but there's a lot of gatekeeping when it comes to older products. Some people think they have more rights to enjoy a product they knew existed for longer and it's really strange behaviour.
I see a lot of younger people wondering why so many people my age liked this or that and it helps to have it in context. Like "what's so great about half life? Every shooter ever is like that!" Ah, but you see, my young friend, that's now. Everything is like Half Life because Half Life changed the landscape. Not really gatekeeping, but you do lose a lot of what made a thing special if you're only looking at it without the historical context.
Basically, the "Seinfeld is not funny" trope (insert TVTropes link and disclaimer)
To be fair, Seinfeld is not funny. Never watched it live, tried to watch it recently starting at season 1, horrible.
Cool story. What a fresh take that nobody has seen before lol
And season 1 sucks
It's not gatekeeping, but a frustration about a new generation coming to an obvious conclusion, that they already had.
Why do people get frustrated about that? Someone is experiencing something for the first time, it's the circle of life.
I'm in my mid 30s and my wife bought a record player during the revival of records last decade. Do you think older generations than me found that frustrating? Personally I think it's fascinating to watch technology go full circle generation by generation
Interesting discussion to have witnessed as an outsider.
Is an article written for a a writers expression or a readers enjoyment. (Both?)
I dont think they where frustrated with the writers enjoyment but rather disappointed that the article was a first discovery opinion rather then a veterans rediscovery from a modern point of view which would have been more useful to reflect their own opinion and thus be more personally entertaining. The negativity goed inwards perceiving it as a waste of their time.
Great analysis, you're got it spot on there. It's frustration from learning nothing new from something they thought would be interesting. That probably all boils down to bad the title of the article not being descriptive enough.
I don't think it's hating. More just questioning their own decision to read the article.
IDK why you interpreted their comment as hating.
Nintendo DS sales are crazy popular right now too. They like our tech like we liked our parents' Ataris.
Parents?? That was my first console. How young is everyone here?
Intellivision was where it was at though, right?
Everything except that monstrosity of a controller.
Hell nah! We need to normalize controllers with replaceable faceplates that come with each and every game.
Preach!
Space War :).
Only the rich kids had that. The baseball was awesome though.
My first console was an Atari 2600 clone in 1994!
Eastern block vibes
To be fair, the 2600 is 47 years old, you'd have to be 52 at a minimum to remember it launching and 42 to remember the NES. I just remember loving my Atari 2600 all the way in the 90s.
I'm 42. I always got systems later than other kids. The Atari was in the house ever since I could form memories, and I finally got an NES in 1990, when the SNES and Genesis/Mega drive were on the horizon.
Then the Atari was already very old by the time you started forming memories, so it would have been your parent's generation. It was 4 years old when you were born.
Theres a reason retro consoles are a huge hit right now. Even emulation consoles like the Miyoo Mini Plus.
No micro transactions?
Naw, no hate. iPods are fuckin rad. Younger generations should definitely get to enjoy older tech. But the author’s observations weren’t really anything I needed to invest my time in reading. I know old iTunes had a visualizer. I don’t know why I read the whole thing anyways
I’m not quite that young.
So we can laugh at the fact that they can't find a simple 1394 to USB cable and instead rely on daisy chaining a hundred dollars worth of apple products to make it work...
Holy shit.
What's that, like, one cable?
Hahaha - no, that’s just the little clippy bit at the end of the cable. The cable’s extra.
Right? Like this guy was a prophet. Uh, one of those prophets who appear, y’know, after all the stuff happens.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
Like this guy was a prophet.
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
I didn't buy those adapters, I just used a computer that had a FireWire 400 port. I haven't found any evidence of those direct USB cables working with old iPods.
Man... I wish I still had my Zune 😩
Ditto. Mine was stolen out of my car 9 years ago and I still miss it.
A ton more fun once you flash rockbox onto it.
I'd love to get my hands on even a decent condition 1st gen iPod, but people want insane amounts for them now. Even my 5.5 gen was more than i wanted to pay but nearly mint.
I hope things like this will take off: https://cooltech.zone/tangara/
FLAC is where it’s at, baby
If RockBox still exists you could put that on iPods and play FLAC
It still exists
Playstation portable was one the best mp3 player to be made
I really want an mp3 player right now - my last one broke and I don't want to carry a phone instead. But it seems like they're either ultra-cheap, overpriced or don't have features I need (like Bluetooth). It is so sad that the midrange audio players pretty much disappeared now. So instead looking as DIY projects, cannot believe.
The original ipod looks very cool btw, even if I would never use one myself - way too large.
I am using a Hifi Walker H2. It is a reasonable price, has bluetooth and no capacitive touch inputs. The UI is not great but the device is physically solid and works for me.
I pre-ordered a Tangara on their crowd funding. I am hopeful about the opensource hardware and software. Only reservation is capacitive touch scroll wheel.
Get a cheap used phone with a headphone port and sd card slot?
Why necessarily "used"? Also I have this exact thing already. I just wanted a device that has no cell connectivity option and thus no tracking, and also (maybe even more importantly) - is smaller and lighter. Going for sports with a phone is inconvenient af.
To save it from the dumpster.
They don’t call them “mp3 players” anymore - that may be why you can’t find what you need. Look for a “DAP” instead - digital audio player - and you’ll probably have more luck.
For example, the Fiio M7 is $200 and is pretty full-featured. I have the M6 and I think I paid around $100, but I don’t think it’s being sold anymore.
What I looked for were product categories. Ye, seen these models. $200 is very, very expensive for me, it would be weird to spend on a player more than you would on a phone.
I still use my iPod Classic. I can plug it into my car for when I'm out of FM range, and I have a Bluetooth adapter for it that plugs into the headphone socket & lets me listen via my hearing aids. It's better than a phone for me, because the mobile signal is weak where I live, and most of my garden is out of WiFi range. It fits all my music and still has room for podcasts.
iTunes sucks though, ugh.
Check out Rockbox
You don't need the Rockbox OS on your iPod to use their sync tool, if I remember right. But it's a better experience in my opinion.
Also, you can uograde your iPod with more storage, more battery, and Bluetooth.
I thought MiniDisc players were more fun, if less practical.
Ipod shuffle was peak imo.
whatever happened to things getting smaller. I want a music player approx the size of a 3.5mm audio port
I would lose that in about 20 minutes
not even worth the "your mom" joke