I tell my kids all the time. Do not do anything you don't want caught on camera. In this world anything can be brought up against you in your future.
But also, like, dancing with your friends shouldn't ruin your future because your school system imposes their religious values as a moral "code".
A PUBLIC school system. Parents should sue the absolute fuck out of the school for using religion to justify a punishment.
Assumed it was a christian school based on her comment. A public school pulling this is absolutely unacceptable.
And unconstitutional.
That would be why it's unacceptable, yes.
There are many other reasons why this is unacceptable.
Yup I hope they bring up a legal case against the school and principal.
We must destroy religion. They won't stop shoving it down our throats
hard agree some poor kid getting molested by a priest praying to cold dead silence... either gods sending kidfuckers to earth or he's just standing by and watching it happen. I feel like churning down a burch
The church blames gay people for child rape while they add another file to the secret filing cabinet where they keep all the coverup records
100% agree kids should be allowed to be kids and do things like dance and have fun. Reminds me of back in the day comments like "leave room for Jesus" when dancing and "Rock n roll is from the devil" its fricking 2923 keep your religion out of my life
She didn't even do anything. Someone behind her was twerking on camera.
I know it's crazy and is sad.
Victim blaming? Shame on you.
I never said that. I never made a comment about the person in the article. Just my life experience. We are all free to do whatever want. I would never yuck somebody else's yum. It's just sad in this age almost everything you do can be brought up against you in the future. I just want my kids to be aware of this and that is all.
Rally's comment is generally good advice, and doesn't place blame on anyone.
It's in response to a girl getting punished for being recorded doing nothing wrong. Read the room and the context. It absolutely is victim blaming.
It's just advice for my kids that I shared. It may be good or bad advice based on your opinions and experiences. Take it, or leave it. But how do you jump to victim blaming?
Because of the context of the post you left that comment on?
Come on dude, you managed to put pants on today right? We know you arent as stupid as youre trying to pretend you are.
Lol… wow. The advice from rally is sound and totally correct. You took it the wrong way and thought he was saying it was her fault. He is saying don’t even put yourself in that situation by being filmed if you can avoid it. If you do not understand that then you’re truly lost. Also, im blocking you because Im sure you’ll misunderstand this too.
If youre blocking me, be a big kid and do it. No one cares to hear it.
But if youre as dumb as rally is pretending to be, Id be surprised if you figure out how.
I have read the room. The victim is not here. OP got the article from a news source.
THUS... we don't need to worry about hurting her feelings. How else CAN we contribute? Well, one constructive way is to share advice for how to prevent this. It's a good practice to not do or say things unless you're comfortable being recorded.
I agree her punishment is inappropriate, but I don't control that high school. All I control is whether I do things I don't want recorded or not.
How about if we rephrase it as "don't do things that someone else can victimize you for." Can you see how there can be a correlation with victim blaming?
The contextual difference here is that the woman in question was dancing at a private party. That is something that's okay to be comfortable with, even if a friend is recording. Thus, the problem here isn't that she shouldn't have done that, but that others victimized her over it.
That's why Rally's advice is getting criticized. It's getting correlated with "don't do things you enjoy in private with your friends because someone terrible might do terrible things to you." This is genuinely terrible advice.
Agreed. If you read this story and your first thought is 'she shouldn't have been dancing on camera in the first place', that's victim blaming.
I never thought that or said that. You made a large jump there. All I did was to share guidence i provided to my family. It's not my place to blame anyone here.
Alright
But you did place blame. Are you really that fucking daft?
He at least thinks we are
I guess we can disagree. There was no blame, only the advice I gave to my family.
My parents loved reminding me of this. Now I have debilitating social anxiety.
Sorry
I don't give a shit if someone catches me dancing on camera. There's nothing wrong with it, who cares?
God. God cares. He loves everyone and is omnipotent, but also really judgy and bitchy because reasons. And he's watching you so closely that you can reach out and touch his bloodshot ethereal eyeball. Well, if it wasn't ethereal, anyway. So don't ever let that aspirin fall from between your knees. He'll know if it does. And send plague of Karens to shame you. But only because he loves you and demands obedience.
He’ll know if it does. And send plague of Karens to shame you.
No no, first the Karens have to find that out, God won’t tell them even if he’s literally aware of everything that happens in the world. He’s kinda lazy if you ask me.
Religious crazies, apparently. We need to take away their power
I completely agree with you. The sad fact is that many people care. I don't condone it. I have done a lot of dumb things that would have a large life impact on my life if they were caught on camera.
Writes down “don’t poop”
That is a good one not to do on camera
Well I guess if I get recorded pooping it’s my own fault right?
LOL right...or some crazy airbnb owner.
Do not do anything you don’t want caught on camera.
BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU
Wow, I went to sleep, and my comment got bombed to hell.
Let me clarify to anyone reading these comments. I don't agree at all with what happened to this girl. It's unfair and wrong on so many levels. The principle comments are gross and uncalled for.
All I did was put advise out there that I give to my children to help navigate that world as we see it.
No reasonable person should be afraid to be filmed dancing. The video was completely innocent and the principal at this school is clearly a religious creep.
In this world today there is also no way to avoid being filmed anyway.
You expect us to believe your comment has nothing to do with the article, and just by coincidence, you happened to post “I tell my kids not to do anything they wouldn’t want being filmed” in response to an article about someone facing consequences for somebody else doing something that was filmed, and we are all the bad guys for unfairly assuming tha your comment had anything at all to do with the article it was posted in response to?
They are related of course. That is the point of a discussion post. But the jump to victim shaming is improper. I am not saying anyone is a bad guy here, never have or implied that. Just stating my point and people are assuming things about my post. I'll take it as a learning lesson to be clearer in the future.
They are related of course.
I’m curious to know what you think the connection is.
I’ll take it as a learning lesson to be clearer in the future.
Thats probably a good idea.
Or even writing on social media.
Sometimes yes. Look at how the comments on this got taken and twisted.
Fact is this girl was doing nothing wrong but due to others beliefs she has lost something she has worked hard for.
Fact is this girl was doing nothing wrong
In your own words, according to you, she did do something wrong: she did she wouldn’t want being filmed. (Note: she wasn’t actually the one twerking.)
Look at how the comments on this got taken and twisted.
Nobody twisted your comments. We just read what you wrote and considered the context in which you wrote it. (That last detail is something you seem to have not done.)
Your comments didnt get twisted, stop acting like you didnt know what you were implying
2003: don't do anything stupid, maybe there's some camera that can record it.
2023: record me with the camera, I'm going to do something stupid
Teenagers dancing is doing something stupid? Are you fucking stupid?
Indeed. This is completely insane
I think twerking is pretty stupid, but I have nothing against stupid things. I love doing them and as long as you’re not hurting other people you should be free to be as stupid as you want without anyone judging you.
This would entirely depend on the dance in question.
I don’t think stupid dances are going to hurt anything though. At least, not until one’s kids find it when they’re in HS…
I tell my kids all the time. Do not do anything you don't want caught on camera. In this world anything can be brought up against you in your future.
But also, like, dancing with your friends shouldn't ruin your future because your school system imposes their religious values as a moral "code".
A PUBLIC school system. Parents should sue the absolute fuck out of the school for using religion to justify a punishment.
Assumed it was a christian school based on her comment. A public school pulling this is absolutely unacceptable.
And unconstitutional.
That would be why it's unacceptable, yes.
There are many other reasons why this is unacceptable.
Yup I hope they bring up a legal case against the school and principal.
We must destroy religion. They won't stop shoving it down our throats
hard agree some poor kid getting molested by a priest praying to cold dead silence... either gods sending kidfuckers to earth or he's just standing by and watching it happen. I feel like churning down a burch
The church blames gay people for child rape while they add another file to the secret filing cabinet where they keep all the coverup records
100% agree kids should be allowed to be kids and do things like dance and have fun. Reminds me of back in the day comments like "leave room for Jesus" when dancing and "Rock n roll is from the devil" its fricking 2923 keep your religion out of my life
She didn't even do anything. Someone behind her was twerking on camera.
I know it's crazy and is sad.
Victim blaming? Shame on you.
I never said that. I never made a comment about the person in the article. Just my life experience. We are all free to do whatever want. I would never yuck somebody else's yum. It's just sad in this age almost everything you do can be brought up against you in the future. I just want my kids to be aware of this and that is all.
Rally's comment is generally good advice, and doesn't place blame on anyone.
It's in response to a girl getting punished for being recorded doing nothing wrong. Read the room and the context. It absolutely is victim blaming.
It's just advice for my kids that I shared. It may be good or bad advice based on your opinions and experiences. Take it, or leave it. But how do you jump to victim blaming?
Because of the context of the post you left that comment on?
Come on dude, you managed to put pants on today right? We know you arent as stupid as youre trying to pretend you are.
Lol… wow. The advice from rally is sound and totally correct. You took it the wrong way and thought he was saying it was her fault. He is saying don’t even put yourself in that situation by being filmed if you can avoid it. If you do not understand that then you’re truly lost. Also, im blocking you because Im sure you’ll misunderstand this too.
If youre blocking me, be a big kid and do it. No one cares to hear it.
But if youre as dumb as rally is pretending to be, Id be surprised if you figure out how.
I have read the room. The victim is not here. OP got the article from a news source.
THUS... we don't need to worry about hurting her feelings. How else CAN we contribute? Well, one constructive way is to share advice for how to prevent this. It's a good practice to not do or say things unless you're comfortable being recorded.
I agree her punishment is inappropriate, but I don't control that high school. All I control is whether I do things I don't want recorded or not.
How about if we rephrase it as "don't do things that someone else can victimize you for." Can you see how there can be a correlation with victim blaming?
The contextual difference here is that the woman in question was dancing at a private party. That is something that's okay to be comfortable with, even if a friend is recording. Thus, the problem here isn't that she shouldn't have done that, but that others victimized her over it.
That's why Rally's advice is getting criticized. It's getting correlated with "don't do things you enjoy in private with your friends because someone terrible might do terrible things to you." This is genuinely terrible advice.
Agreed. If you read this story and your first thought is 'she shouldn't have been dancing on camera in the first place', that's victim blaming.
I never thought that or said that. You made a large jump there. All I did was to share guidence i provided to my family. It's not my place to blame anyone here.
Alright
But you did place blame. Are you really that fucking daft?
He at least thinks we are
I guess we can disagree. There was no blame, only the advice I gave to my family.
My parents loved reminding me of this. Now I have debilitating social anxiety.
Sorry
I don't give a shit if someone catches me dancing on camera. There's nothing wrong with it, who cares?
God. God cares. He loves everyone and is omnipotent, but also really judgy and bitchy because reasons. And he's watching you so closely that you can reach out and touch his bloodshot ethereal eyeball. Well, if it wasn't ethereal, anyway. So don't ever let that aspirin fall from between your knees. He'll know if it does. And send plague of Karens to shame you. But only because he loves you and demands obedience.
He loves you, and he NEEDS MONEY!
No no, first the Karens have to find that out, God won’t tell them even if he’s literally aware of everything that happens in the world. He’s kinda lazy if you ask me.
Religious crazies, apparently. We need to take away their power
I completely agree with you. The sad fact is that many people care. I don't condone it. I have done a lot of dumb things that would have a large life impact on my life if they were caught on camera.
Writes down “don’t poop”
That is a good one not to do on camera
Well I guess if I get recorded pooping it’s my own fault right?
LOL right...or some crazy airbnb owner.
BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU
Wow, I went to sleep, and my comment got bombed to hell.
Let me clarify to anyone reading these comments. I don't agree at all with what happened to this girl. It's unfair and wrong on so many levels. The principle comments are gross and uncalled for.
All I did was put advise out there that I give to my children to help navigate that world as we see it.
No reasonable person should be afraid to be filmed dancing. The video was completely innocent and the principal at this school is clearly a religious creep.
In this world today there is also no way to avoid being filmed anyway.
You expect us to believe your comment has nothing to do with the article, and just by coincidence, you happened to post “I tell my kids not to do anything they wouldn’t want being filmed” in response to an article about someone facing consequences for somebody else doing something that was filmed, and we are all the bad guys for unfairly assuming tha your comment had anything at all to do with the article it was posted in response to?
They are related of course. That is the point of a discussion post. But the jump to victim shaming is improper. I am not saying anyone is a bad guy here, never have or implied that. Just stating my point and people are assuming things about my post. I'll take it as a learning lesson to be clearer in the future.
I’m curious to know what you think the connection is.
Thats probably a good idea.
Or even writing on social media.
Sometimes yes. Look at how the comments on this got taken and twisted.
Fact is this girl was doing nothing wrong but due to others beliefs she has lost something she has worked hard for.
In your own words, according to you, she did do something wrong: she did she wouldn’t want being filmed. (Note: she wasn’t actually the one twerking.)
Nobody twisted your comments. We just read what you wrote and considered the context in which you wrote it. (That last detail is something you seem to have not done.)
Your comments didnt get twisted, stop acting like you didnt know what you were implying
2003: don't do anything stupid, maybe there's some camera that can record it.
2023: record me with the camera, I'm going to do something stupid
Teenagers dancing is doing something stupid? Are you fucking stupid?
Indeed. This is completely insane
I think twerking is pretty stupid, but I have nothing against stupid things. I love doing them and as long as you’re not hurting other people you should be free to be as stupid as you want without anyone judging you.
This would entirely depend on the dance in question.
I don’t think stupid dances are going to hurt anything though. At least, not until one’s kids find it when they’re in HS…
So true