The Outer Worlds w/ All DLC free until 26 Dec 2023 4PM UTC

Rentlar@lemmy.ca to Patient Gamers@sh.itjust.works – 146 points –
store.epicgames.com

8AM PT, 11AM ET.

Can't beat the price of free. No parts of the game are missing, just for all of you patient folks.

Quick note: It is a remaster of the original game with the base game and the DLC expansions that were released for it, visual updates and a higher level cap and possible other tweaks. Some reports of stuttering and poor performance.

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True. I have 237 games claimed on there, but only 14 have over an hour play time. $0 spent on that store.

just pirate at that point

Or... Just claim the games and play them if you ever feel like it and don't if you don't?

Yup, I think I've downloaded like 5 and actually started like 3 (and haven't put more than an hour on any). I've repurchaded far more games on Steam that I got free from Epic than I've actually played on EGS.

It takes like 30 sec of my time to click on the link and checkout on my phone. If it took much more than that, I wouldn't bother.

I don't know why I still bother. I guess somewhere deep down in my soul I think there's a chance EGS will stop sucking, and at that point I'll be glad to have the library. That hasn't happened in the year or two that I've been claiming games, but I still do it anyway. Eh, whatever.

There's some really good games they gave through the years and if you use a library aggregator like Galaxy 2.0 or Playnite you basically don't notice what launcher it's on...

Yeah, I just haven't gotten to it.

I use Linux, so the convenience of switching Proton versions through Steam is worth buying the game again in most cases. I could use Heroic launcher, but the interface isn't as nice and adding each game to Steam is tedious, especially on my Steam Deck (esp. since Steam has decent settings preconfigured in many cases).

So yeah, my laziness costs me some money. If EGS supported Linux, I'd probably buy some games from them. Likewise for GOG, but at least GOG has Linux builds of many games, so they occasionally get my money as well.

It's such a waste of time and sanity to have to keep up with claiming.

Opening an app and clicking claim is a risk to your sanity? You may want to talk to someone.

You don't have to claim them. Nobody does. But people can claim it if they want to and that's alright.

No one said it wasn't, I'm just voicing that it's completely worthless to claim these licenses for games on a store like this.

Your opinion has been noted already. Thank you for your input.

Oh fuck off you big baby, we don't need people like you in every discussion about free games on EGS, we get it, you're mad that someone dared stand up to Gaben and his monopoly, go bitch somewhere else and let people enjoy the free games.

you’re mad that someone dared stand up to Gaben and his monopoly

And you can tell that by how much they complain(ed) about Itch, GoG, Desura, and other competitors, right?

Yup, EGS doesn't get a pass for sucking just because it's an underdog. The store experience sucks, the company behind it actively avoids supporting the Steam Deck (valid business reasons imo, but it still sucks), and they have stupid exclusives that just delay when I get to play games on my platform of choice.

EGS sucking doesn't make Steam good, it just means EGS sucks.

While GOG's client kinda sucks, it's better than EGS and their games are DRM-free. So I'll give them a pass on their client kinda sucking and not porting to my preferred platform, Linux. I'd just GOG in a heartbeat if they gave half as much attention to Linux as Steam (I don't want much, just officially endorse Heroic and/or port Galaxy).

I keep my fingers crossed that one day GoG Galaxy will be given a developer or two instead of a single untrained monkey. I like the concept, I like some of the features and love that I can view all my libraries in one place, but man it's so janky and there's no support from the company at all and they don't fix issues or work on anything new for it and what they do add is done at a glacial pace.

Meanwhile, Valve keeps rolling out new features, such as:

  • unified shopping cart - love it! I can add games on mobile and review on my PC
  • private games - doesn't benefit me, but I guess it's cool
  • separate gift and personal purchases in one transaction - I often buy a bunch of games at once and send some to my wife/kids
  • proton, Steam input, year end review, etc

Sometimes it's pretty stagnant, but overall it gets way more attention than any other client. All GOG needs to do is get like 5 full-time devs and Galaxy would be a much better client. They have the money (Witcher, Cyberpunk, etc), they just need to improve their client so people actually want to use it.

I think out of those only GoG can be called, by any stretch, a competitor

Those stores don't challenge the monopoly, so they don't trigger anyone. They get praised but you'll have a hard time finding anyone who regularly uses them, let alone as their main gaming platform.

They sure do bitch about EA and Ubisoft having their own launcher!

Funny that the services you mentioned don't try to play in the exact same playground as Steam, contrary to EGS.

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You're mad that someone dared stand up to Gaben and his monopoly

You mean Tim Sweeny, the guy preaching about monopolistic practices while directing his company to take anticompetitive actions in a thinly-veiled attempt to take away consumers' choice of storefront and create his own monopoly?

It's more morally acceptable to pirate games than take free games off Epic Games Store. At least in the former case, I'm not supporting their campaign by being a statistic they can boast about.

Actually if you hated EGS so much you should take these free games. Each free game costs them money.

EGS isn't paying per download, they're paying the developer an upfront cost to make the game a free offer regardless of how many copies get downloaded.

I stand corrected then if that's the case. But also if more people download them (even if they don't play them or buy on the store elsewhere) then they are likely to make more deals and spend more money :p

They want more active players on their shitty platform. So by claiming and downloading free games you are actually doing what they want you to do.

Yeah, but are you really active if you're not even playing them. You're just a number on some stats sheets for the store itself. I personally have no gripes with EGS myself, by the way. I'm just playing devil's advocate on why even claiming the free games could become detrimental to EGS if you are one more inclined to want it's downfall.

Sure, give them your data instead of just pirating the game. It’s free either way. Except one way you don’t have to give them data on your life.

They only get what you give though. Plus I feel like the whole "oh no they'll get my data" arguments for a lot of things pretty weak. Being one that briefly used to work in data science and adtech. They don't know you personally, you're just in a cohort of similar people. You're not individually identifiable. Which is fine by me. I'd rather get given targeted ads (when they're not blocked) than the absolute wild west of a mess ads were in the 90s and early 00s.

But you could just… not. Installing their software on your machine gives them file system access, soooo… maybe just pirate and get the game for free just the same.

Um... No, I'd bitch about it being on Steam too. I just like actually owning my games.

Also, wow, fucking chill, dude...

It's DRM-free on Epic.

So it doesn't require the EGS Launcher? It doesn't require any form of Internet connection to install, launch, or play?

With all due respect, if the answer is "it does" to either one of those questions, then that's still a very strong form of DRM.

I mean, you're stuck playing on consoles with version 1.0 if that's your criteria so I don't know why we should care about your opinion of PC launchers.

Not really. On GOG, with most instances you actually own the games you buy.

How do you install a game from GOG without an internet connection?

You download the backup installer after you buy the game. I save mine on an external hard drive.

Ok so how do you download the backup installer without an internet connection?

I never said you could, so that's irrelevant. Don't move the goalposts.

And to be fair, neither Steam nor Epic even allows you to download an offliner installer; GOG does.

`So it doesn't require the EGS Launcher? It doesn't require any form of Internet connection to install, launch, or play?

With all due respect, if the answer is "it does" to either one of those questions, then that's still a very strong form of DRM.`

Guess that GOG is a very strong form of DRM

Not at all.

  • GOG does not requires its launcher to install, launch, or play a game.
  • GOG does not require an Internet connection to install, launch, or play a game.

Of course you require an Internet connection to download the offline installer. How the hell do you expect to get it otherwise? For them to ship a disk to you? In 2023? As awesome as that would be, that's funny.

In any case, downloading it isn't DRM; it's no different than having to go to the store to pick up an item. Lol.

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People bitch way too much about EGS. Yeah, we get it, it's not steam and the dude that runs it pissed in their Cheerios once. Claim the free fucking game or don't.

Every single god damn time there's a post about a good free game on EGS, there's always some tool who's gotta mention how bad EGS sucks and that they only play the finest Linux games available. They act like they are stuck up losers. Let's be completely honest. Gaming on Linux still blows.

Nobody gives a shit about your Linux gaming. Nobody gives a shit if you like Steam more. Nobody gives a shit if you have a beef with Tim Sweeny.

Just shut the fuck up already.

It's even worse when you're old enough to remember the same kind of people that were complaining about Valve creating Steam and forcing them to download it in order to play their games and then complaining that non-Valve games were starting to depend on having Steam installed and having to download part of the game at a time when bandwidth sucked... The same kind of people were saying they would forever boycott Steam but today they're made that someone tried to break the status quo again.

Huh, I actually never used Steam until it came to Linux. I switched back in 2010 or so, and before that I either downloaded games directly from the dev or bought disks.

I don't understand what was wrong with that model. I remember buying Minecraft directly from the website back in 2012 or so, and I did the same with Factorio (2014?). I remember playing Starcraft 2 with its own launcher, which again I got through the website. The same is true for League of Legends.

I don't get why everything has to be through some launcher, though I do appreciate what Steam is doing for the Linux community, so they have earned my business (if it wasn't for Steam, I wouldn't play nearly as many games). But from an overall gaming perspective, I agree that having such a dominant platform isn't good, and I would probably buy from other stores if they offered a decent experience, but I'm not going to jump through hoops to play games.

non-Valve games were starting to depend on having Steam installed

The problem was/is their policy of allowing the non-Valve games to also require their own storefront launcher alongside Steam.

There was that one dark period of "Games For Windows Live" on Steam, but those issues are pretty rare nowadays.

That's also an issue, but them becoming the default provider and having such a huge market share isn't something that players should be happy about, they might be managed by someone that cares about players but Gaben could die tomorrow and get replaced by someone that doesn't. Competition should be celebrated even if it's not perfect.

Competition needs to do better than simply existing to be celebrated.

If I open a storefront that costs twice as much as Steam with none of the features you wouldn't support it just because "it's competition".

I would certainly encourage the effort but tell you that you need to do better on pricing

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