Wait, was it because she's too fascist or not fascist enough?
They're claiming it's because of what she said to Boebert, but it's probably because of how she's buddied up to McCarthy and they feel their job is to oppose him.
Probably neither:
"I think the way she referred to a fellow member was probably not the way we expect our members to refer to other fellow, especially female, members," Harris told Politico, referring to Greene's profane exchange with Boebert.
"I think the straw that broke the camel's back was publicly saying things about another member in terms that no one should."
What did she say about boebert?
She called her "a little b*tch".
This is the Internet. You can curse here.
No! that is not allowed! You can go to jail for swearing!!
I've been considering a switch since my instance has a lot of issues with overloading. I like that yours doesn't censor words. Does lemm.ee have issues with too many people joining and overloading the server?
Nope, it's rocking solid. lemmy.ml is shit hole, full of tankies.
I’m moving over
A little of column a, alittle of column b.
Yes.
yeah, gotta toe the baby bear porridge fascist level
Yes
Define Fascism.
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
Now we get to play a game.
Will the response be:
The left thinks everything they disagree with is fascism
The left are the real fascists for suppressing dissent/banning online trolls
No reply ever
I've got my money on #1, but they're all strong contenders.
I'm going with #3 for now lol
It's always #3 when it comes down to it. Their ideology only makes sense in a bubble divorced from reality. Poke the bubble, reality starts seeping in, and the ensuing cognitive dissonance causes such a brain cramp that it's easier for them to ignore reality than accept it and adjust accordingly.
Its 4. It’s just words and words don’t matter. Unless you want to be an election official, then we’ll ruin your life.
1 & 2 because they always want to attack. #3 if they're losing the argument.
You do realize I was talking about you, right?
And that my prediction was correct?
He doesn't even like get us man.
Wildcard!
What do you mean? I'm not a leftist lmao
No kidding.
You're not making any sense. You talked about how a leftist would reply, but my argument was pro-right. Weirdo lol
What doesn't make sense to me is why Republicans are called Fascist. You say that it involves a "centralized autocratic government", but the whole belief of Republicans is LESS government involvement.
"Severe economic and social regimentation" that doesn't make sense either considering the liberal states are having a max exodusoin favor of Republican states like Texas. Fun fact, Texas is the #1 state for business in the USA with the highest growth, and despite its smaller population, it almost has the same GDP as California (and substantially less residents). If "Fascists" are so bad, why is everyone moving to their states?
"Forcible suppression of opposition" Democrats literally weaponized the FBI to take down their political oppositions lol.
Tell me you believe anything the media says without telling me.🤦♂️
PS: Trump sucks
My sibling in Christ, Republicans say they want less government, but are more than happy to poke their noses into all sorts of things. For instance, Republican legislatures have used government to rob people of their bodily autonomy in medical decisions.
I remember all of the GOP whinging about "government-run death panels controlling your medical decisions" when the ACA was being debated. Who could've guessed it was projection?
If they want less government involvement then explain to me why they make it their cause to forbit abortion, label abortion pills unsafe and even make teaching scientific theories forbidden?
I though they were about the government being involved less not more?
Yeah I dont agree with that either.
Do you think whether you agree with the conservative stances that you defend has any bearing on how factually incorrect you are?
Well, I dont agree 100% with either side and they both have their flaws. I agree with more of Republicans points today, but abortion is definitely a huge no. Democrats have a lot of flaws too, to me its who's pros outweigh the cons, and as it stands Republicans are winning for me at the moment. Note that ibused to be a die hard Democrat and I even donated to Pete Buttigiege's comaign as well as Bernie Sanders (even had a bumper sticker lol). Democrats have lost my vote due to them not focusing onnreal world issues and living in fairy tale land. I care more about being a realist rather than an idealist. Facts over feelings.
I can only assume the people down voting you really like restricting abortion rights. Otherwise it makes no sense.
Lol I think they got it confused 🤣
What doesn't make sense to me is why Republicans are called Fascist. You say that it involves a "centralized autocratic government", but the whole belief of Republicans is LESS government involvement.
"Severe economic and social regimentation" that doesn't make sense either considering the liberal states are having a mass exodus in favor of Republican states like Texas. Fun fact, Texas is the #1 state for business in the USA with the highest growth, and despite its smaller population, it almost has the same GDP as California (and substantially less residents). If "Fascists" are so bad, why is everyone moving to their states?
"Forcible suppression of opposition" Democrats literally weaponized the FBI to take down their political oppositions lol.
Tell me you believe anything the media says without telling me.🤦♂️
PS: Trump sucks
I'm not addressing the racist part of the post with this, just the "less government involvement" part:
anti-porn laws
educational restriction laws
abortion restriction laws
contraceptive restriction laws
laws attacking encryption
The list goes on (and I'm sure there are more laws passed that I'm forgetting about) but the first four categories are heavily pushed by the GOP and the last one they are still co-sponsors on (Lindsay Graham and Diane Feinstein both suck). Some of the laws that are being passed are even designed to restrict constituents even when they aren't in the state, and some even restrict their ability to LEAVE the state.
GOP is not the "less government" party, they are the "less government that allows things I don't like and more government that forces everyone in line" party. There really isn't a "less" government party, they're all just "different" government parties.
PS: Adding "PS: Trump sucks" at the end doesn't magically give everything else you said credence.
Current GOP policies are like a mishmash of policies pulled from dystopian sci-fi for the past 100 years: 1984, Handmaid's Tale, Brave New World, Fahrenheit 451, they're trying to bring back all the classics. In yet another example of how it's all just projection with them, it's actually the GOP that's trying to create a "nanny state", one that has control over even the most personal aspects of our lives. They've become so cartoonishly evil in how they're trying to make peoples' lives worse that it'd be funny if not for the fact that a good portion of the population supports them, they're actually putting alot of their policies into effect, and they have a Conservative majority in the Supreme Court. I don't see any of this ending well for America or the world at large.
Do you have any articles pertaining to the attacks against encryption? As a software engineer, that one I didn't know about and is really important to me.
You’re mistaking the GOP’s words for their actions.
I don’t care what they say about small government, I care that they’re telling women what to do with their bodies. That they’re threatening election officials with violence. That protesters on the left get arrested and Proud Boys get escorts. This is what matters.
Just addressing the "almost has the same GDP as California" statement
Nominal GDP 2022
California: $3,598,103 million USD
Texas: $2,355,960 million USD
Per Capita GDP 2022
California: $92,190
Texas: $78,456
?????
It's a common lie. The reality is that red states score much lower on every objective quality of life metric, while having much higher rates of things like violent crime, addiction and suicide than any blue state let alone any of the US's peer nations in the rest of the developed world. It's not even remotely close. With very few exceptions, the social pathologies we see throughout the US are concentrated in red states. Blue states have problems too, but they tend to be related to the fact that they are highly desirable places to live.
Thank you for addressing that part! Easy to see the hard numbers don't play out that way.
Exactly. I never said they have the same,biit for the population difference its pretty high go there.
It's pretty rich for you to accuse people of just believing what they're told and also say that the GOP "want less government involvement."
Is dictating what sexualities are allowed to exist in public "wanting less government involvement?"
Is requiring schools to display a religious message "wanting less government involvement?"
Is censoring public library books "wanting less government involvement?"
Is the largest giveaway to billionaires and megacorps in our nation's history "wanting less government involvement?"
Is expanding the largest prison population in the whole world "wanting less government involvement?"
Is celebrating the infrastructure cash that comes to town despite voting against it "wanting less government involvement?
Is using our tax dollars to build weapons to sell to other countries "wanting less government involvement?"
As for "Texas is the #1 State for business," that's a meaningless platitude unless you specify what it's first in, and regardless capital is often in bed with fascists. Nicely done.
And regarding moving populations: how would that indicate that the GOP-run states are not fascist? Surely they would attract a population that agrees with the authoritarian policies against those who they see as their enemies? Is your whole argument "people who move can't be fascist sympathizers?" Cool story.
And your claim that the Democrats weaponized the FBI is just hilarious.
Less government involvement? Is that why you can't get an abortion after you're impregnated by your dad in half the states?
Wait, was it because she's too fascist or not fascist enough?
They're claiming it's because of what she said to Boebert, but it's probably because of how she's buddied up to McCarthy and they feel their job is to oppose him.
Probably neither:
"I think the way she referred to a fellow member was probably not the way we expect our members to refer to other fellow, especially female, members," Harris told Politico, referring to Greene's profane exchange with Boebert.
"I think the straw that broke the camel's back was publicly saying things about another member in terms that no one should."
What did she say about boebert?
She called her "a little b*tch".
This is the Internet. You can curse here.
No! that is not allowed! You can go to jail for swearing!!
Fuck. I am le screwed.
no jail, but you'll be voted off of committees
Talk like that will get you called a little bitch
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/marjorie-taylor-greene-lauren-boebert-little-*removed*-house-floor-meltdown-1234775911/
Edit: looks like the curse filter Broke that link. Just google “mtg called Biebert a little” and you’ll find it.
Let's see if the curse filter works on post outside of tankie.ml
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/marjorie-taylor-greene-lauren-boebert-little-bitch-house-floor-meltdown-1234775911/
Damn, it looks like it still got you.
Let's see if that gets filtered.
It's not filtered on my side: https://lemm.ee/post/755914
edit: comment link https://lemm.ee/comment/803582
I've been considering a switch since my instance has a lot of issues with overloading. I like that yours doesn't censor words. Does lemm.ee have issues with too many people joining and overloading the server?
Nope, it's rocking solid. lemmy.ml is shit hole, full of tankies.
I’m moving over
A little of column a, alittle of column b.
Yes.
yeah, gotta toe the baby bear porridge fascist level
Yes
Define Fascism.
a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
Now we get to play a game.
Will the response be:
The left thinks everything they disagree with is fascism
The left are the real fascists for suppressing dissent/banning online trolls
No reply ever
I've got my money on #1, but they're all strong contenders.
I'm going with #3 for now lol
It's always #3 when it comes down to it. Their ideology only makes sense in a bubble divorced from reality. Poke the bubble, reality starts seeping in, and the ensuing cognitive dissonance causes such a brain cramp that it's easier for them to ignore reality than accept it and adjust accordingly.
Its 4. It’s just words and words don’t matter. Unless you want to be an election official, then we’ll ruin your life.
1 & 2 because they always want to attack. #3 if they're losing the argument.
You do realize I was talking about you, right?
And that my prediction was correct?
He doesn't even like get us man.
Wildcard!
What do you mean? I'm not a leftist lmao
No kidding.
You're not making any sense. You talked about how a leftist would reply, but my argument was pro-right. Weirdo lol
What doesn't make sense to me is why Republicans are called Fascist. You say that it involves a "centralized autocratic government", but the whole belief of Republicans is LESS government involvement.
"Severe economic and social regimentation" that doesn't make sense either considering the liberal states are having a max exodusoin favor of Republican states like Texas. Fun fact, Texas is the #1 state for business in the USA with the highest growth, and despite its smaller population, it almost has the same GDP as California (and substantially less residents). If "Fascists" are so bad, why is everyone moving to their states?
"Forcible suppression of opposition" Democrats literally weaponized the FBI to take down their political oppositions lol.
Tell me you believe anything the media says without telling me.🤦♂️
PS: Trump sucks
My sibling in Christ, Republicans say they want less government, but are more than happy to poke their noses into all sorts of things. For instance, Republican legislatures have used government to rob people of their bodily autonomy in medical decisions.
I remember all of the GOP whinging about "government-run death panels controlling your medical decisions" when the ACA was being debated. Who could've guessed it was projection?
If they want less government involvement then explain to me why they make it their cause to forbit abortion, label abortion pills unsafe and even make teaching scientific theories forbidden?
I though they were about the government being involved less not more?
Yeah I dont agree with that either.
Do you think whether you agree with the conservative stances that you defend has any bearing on how factually incorrect you are?
Well, I dont agree 100% with either side and they both have their flaws. I agree with more of Republicans points today, but abortion is definitely a huge no. Democrats have a lot of flaws too, to me its who's pros outweigh the cons, and as it stands Republicans are winning for me at the moment. Note that ibused to be a die hard Democrat and I even donated to Pete Buttigiege's comaign as well as Bernie Sanders (even had a bumper sticker lol). Democrats have lost my vote due to them not focusing onnreal world issues and living in fairy tale land. I care more about being a realist rather than an idealist. Facts over feelings.
I can only assume the people down voting you really like restricting abortion rights. Otherwise it makes no sense.
Lol I think they got it confused 🤣
What doesn't make sense to me is why Republicans are called Fascist. You say that it involves a "centralized autocratic government", but the whole belief of Republicans is LESS government involvement.
"Severe economic and social regimentation" that doesn't make sense either considering the liberal states are having a mass exodus in favor of Republican states like Texas. Fun fact, Texas is the #1 state for business in the USA with the highest growth, and despite its smaller population, it almost has the same GDP as California (and substantially less residents). If "Fascists" are so bad, why is everyone moving to their states?
"Forcible suppression of opposition" Democrats literally weaponized the FBI to take down their political oppositions lol.
Tell me you believe anything the media says without telling me.🤦♂️
PS: Trump sucks
I'm not addressing the racist part of the post with this, just the "less government involvement" part:
The list goes on (and I'm sure there are more laws passed that I'm forgetting about) but the first four categories are heavily pushed by the GOP and the last one they are still co-sponsors on (Lindsay Graham and Diane Feinstein both suck). Some of the laws that are being passed are even designed to restrict constituents even when they aren't in the state, and some even restrict their ability to LEAVE the state.
GOP is not the "less government" party, they are the "less government that allows things I don't like and more government that forces everyone in line" party. There really isn't a "less" government party, they're all just "different" government parties.
PS: Adding "PS: Trump sucks" at the end doesn't magically give everything else you said credence.
Current GOP policies are like a mishmash of policies pulled from dystopian sci-fi for the past 100 years: 1984, Handmaid's Tale, Brave New World, Fahrenheit 451, they're trying to bring back all the classics. In yet another example of how it's all just projection with them, it's actually the GOP that's trying to create a "nanny state", one that has control over even the most personal aspects of our lives. They've become so cartoonishly evil in how they're trying to make peoples' lives worse that it'd be funny if not for the fact that a good portion of the population supports them, they're actually putting alot of their policies into effect, and they have a Conservative majority in the Supreme Court. I don't see any of this ending well for America or the world at large.
Do you have any articles pertaining to the attacks against encryption? As a software engineer, that one I didn't know about and is really important to me.
You’re mistaking the GOP’s words for their actions.
I don’t care what they say about small government, I care that they’re telling women what to do with their bodies. That they’re threatening election officials with violence. That protesters on the left get arrested and Proud Boys get escorts. This is what matters.
Just addressing the "almost has the same GDP as California" statement
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP
Nominal GDP 2022 California: $3,598,103 million USD Texas: $2,355,960 million USD
Per Capita GDP 2022 California: $92,190 Texas: $78,456
?????
It's a common lie. The reality is that red states score much lower on every objective quality of life metric, while having much higher rates of things like violent crime, addiction and suicide than any blue state let alone any of the US's peer nations in the rest of the developed world. It's not even remotely close. With very few exceptions, the social pathologies we see throughout the US are concentrated in red states. Blue states have problems too, but they tend to be related to the fact that they are highly desirable places to live.
Thank you for addressing that part! Easy to see the hard numbers don't play out that way.
Exactly. I never said they have the same,biit for the population difference its pretty high go there.
It's pretty rich for you to accuse people of just believing what they're told and also say that the GOP "want less government involvement."
Is dictating what sexualities are allowed to exist in public "wanting less government involvement?"
Is requiring schools to display a religious message "wanting less government involvement?"
Is censoring public library books "wanting less government involvement?"
Is the largest giveaway to billionaires and megacorps in our nation's history "wanting less government involvement?"
Is expanding the largest prison population in the whole world "wanting less government involvement?"
Is celebrating the infrastructure cash that comes to town despite voting against it "wanting less government involvement?
Is using our tax dollars to build weapons to sell to other countries "wanting less government involvement?"
As for "Texas is the #1 State for business," that's a meaningless platitude unless you specify what it's first in, and regardless capital is often in bed with fascists. Nicely done.
And regarding moving populations: how would that indicate that the GOP-run states are not fascist? Surely they would attract a population that agrees with the authoritarian policies against those who they see as their enemies? Is your whole argument "people who move can't be fascist sympathizers?" Cool story.
And your claim that the Democrats weaponized the FBI is just hilarious.
Less government involvement? Is that why you can't get an abortion after you're impregnated by your dad in half the states?
I dont agree with their take on abortion either.
A political movement centered around freedom for the underside of that part of the roof which overhangs the rest of the building
Edit: or am I getting confused with that soffit sect of islam ?
A bundle of sticks tied together.