Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene removed from US House Freedom Caucus

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Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene removed from US House Freedom Caucus
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One good thing to come out of Reddit’s demise is that I hadn’t read her name in about three weeks.

I just realised how much MTG related coverage there was on Reddit.

@currychaos

For a minute I was scratching my head wondering how I missed all the Magic the Gathering coverage when I barely saw any 🤣

Reminds me of the time I spent in 2020 wondering why all the right wingers were so mad at the Bureau of Land Management.

They are mad at the Bureau of Land Management.

Basically, they're mad at everything.

The western land issue is one of the chief things that makes them popular out west. There's more federal land than private and state combined.

Their sense of entitlement when it comes to public lands is unreal.

If someone else owns more of your state than your own citizens, do you really have a state? It's easy for us to pontificate in states where there's hardly any federal land and the issue is reversed. There needs to be more federal land in the East where ecosystems mean more and less in the West.

It sure would be nice if any MTG mention is promptly spammed by Magic the Gathering content and buried. I don't even play MTG and I'd prefer to have my feed taken over by it! Fuck yeah, nerds--get your game on!

(Disclosure: I am indeed a nerd, too.)

20 years ago, I might have agreed (even if naively). Today, MTG has just turned into a cashgrab. The original game bought and bought again through acquisitions, and rare/mythic rare cards becoming the staple for competitive play driving constructed deck costs into the hundreds (sometimes thousands) of dollars. Between this and the attempted reversal of their sibling D&D's licensing structure (particularly for content creators), I just have no more interest in participating in collecting or playing MTG. I'm nostalgic for the days we used to have big multiway matches (even predating EDH/commander) in between rounds of chess tournaments, or at the school lunch tables, but those days are never coming back. Everything about their design structure now is about extracting maximum profit from their playerbase. Arena offers one of the best CCG game clients one could ask for, but again, the design takes all the P2W gimmicks perfected over the last 2 decades: the gacha, the battle pass, the daily rewards the demand you return to play imbalanced matches again and again and again, essentially becoming the content, the dopamine hit for someone else that paid to win.

They did find the One Ring card from their new LOTR set recently. Some shop is paying $2 million euros for it. I desperately hope someone throws it into a volcano a la Mount Doom.

That person: “no.”

After all, why shouldn't I keep it?

It's ok. When MTG news first started popping up on Reddit, I was wondering why everyone hated Magic the Gathering

She makes herself and republicans look bad, but still it’s wrong to give someone like her so much publicity. It’s like how CNN etc pumped up Trump by talking about him constantly in 2015.

I noticed a BUNCH of news and politics lemmy subs were created recently, and spamming depressing shit here like they did on reddit. Like, fuck off I don’t want to see that shit!

Politics is hard to balance. Hearing about it is depressing, but not keeping up with it feels wildly irresponsible and a big reason why things are so bad.

It's important to keep in mind your circles of control, influence, and concern in mind when reading political news. By all means keep yourself informed, but you have to pick and choose which stories you become personally invested in. Otherwise you'll burn yourself out emotionally in no time.

Exactly - my mental health has been so much better since leaving Reddit. I noticed that I’m not “doon scrolling” as much on here, and I’m back to looking at shit that interests me instead of being bombarded by depressing shit constantly.

Reddit's political communities were getting downright obsessive about "political celebrities" and I hope Lemmy doesn't follow the same path - this post doesn't bode well for that hope.

Agreed in principle, but implementation is practically impossible except for one's own level. A lot of people yearn for more and some people need less. There is little in our lives that affect us more than politics, and to that end I'm one that really wants to know more, and hopes that we see more news posted here in the Fediverse.

I'm pretty block-happy with communities and users. If they're being dumb...bye.

I have a vague hope that if others are too, those things will wither, because the people here are rejecting it on sight.

...I might be naively optimistic, though.

I mean yeah sure, except that she was ousted for being not fascist enough. So it's not like the group is somehow better now. It's all still just as fucked. But I enjoy seeing her kicked out of anything

clears throat HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA inhales HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

What a fucking kook. Even the other kooks think you're a fucking kook.

Too batshit crazy for the Freedom Caucus is batshit crazy indeed.

The sad thing is it was because she called Bobert a little bitch and supported Kevin McCarthy. Not because of wanting to impeach the president over nothing or jewish space lasers or whatever batshit crazy things come out of her mouth.

They removed her from the caucus for saying something true.

The only power she had was because she was aligned with these bozos and could be part of a voting bloc that Mccarthy needs to stay in power. Now that she's out in the cold she'll lose all her perks and privileges (and insider info on what stocks are going to crash tomorrow) . I doubt she even runs for reelection.

Oh, she'll run. It's a way of raising money and getting attention. Pocket all the PAC money the rubes donate, scream and wail for more attention, get on the talkshows that will have you, and repeat.

Yep. Still has plenty of name recognition, and it's not like she's got a ton better opportunities to continue the grift than to keep running for election. This will simply be a pivot to show that she's not as extreme as those crazies on the ultra-far-right, but still to the right of those 'communists' that are running the GOP these days.

Wait, was it because she's too fascist or not fascist enough?

They're claiming it's because of what she said to Boebert, but it's probably because of how she's buddied up to McCarthy and they feel their job is to oppose him.

Probably neither:

"I think the way she referred to a fellow member was probably not the way we expect our members to refer to other fellow, especially female, members," Harris told Politico, referring to Greene's profane exchange with Boebert.

"I think the straw that broke the camel's back was publicly saying things about another member in terms that no one should."

What did she say about boebert?

She called her "a little b*tch".

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/marjorie-taylor-greene-lauren-boebert-little-*removed*-house-floor-meltdown-1234775911/

Edit: looks like the curse filter Broke that link. Just google “mtg called Biebert a little” and you’ll find it.

Damn, it looks like it still got you.

Let's see if that gets filtered.

It's not filtered on my side: https://lemm.ee/post/755914

edit: comment link https://lemm.ee/comment/803582

I've been considering a switch since my instance has a lot of issues with overloading. I like that yours doesn't censor words. Does lemm.ee have issues with too many people joining and overloading the server?

Nope, it's rocking solid. lemmy.ml is shit hole, full of tankies.

A little of column a, alittle of column b.

Define Fascism.

a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

Now we get to play a game.

Will the response be:

  • The left thinks everything they disagree with is fascism

  • The left are the real fascists for suppressing dissent/banning online trolls

  • No reply ever

I've got my money on #1, but they're all strong contenders.

It's always #3 when it comes down to it. Their ideology only makes sense in a bubble divorced from reality. Poke the bubble, reality starts seeping in, and the ensuing cognitive dissonance causes such a brain cramp that it's easier for them to ignore reality than accept it and adjust accordingly.

Its 4. It’s just words and words don’t matter. Unless you want to be an election official, then we’ll ruin your life.

1 & 2 because they always want to attack. #3 if they're losing the argument.

You do realize I was talking about you, right?

And that my prediction was correct?

What do you mean? I'm not a leftist lmao

No kidding.

You're not making any sense. You talked about how a leftist would reply, but my argument was pro-right. Weirdo lol

What doesn't make sense to me is why Republicans are called Fascist. You say that it involves a "centralized autocratic government", but the whole belief of Republicans is LESS government involvement.

"Severe economic and social regimentation" that doesn't make sense either considering the liberal states are having a max exodusoin favor of Republican states like Texas. Fun fact, Texas is the #1 state for business in the USA with the highest growth, and despite its smaller population, it almost has the same GDP as California (and substantially less residents). If "Fascists" are so bad, why is everyone moving to their states?

"Forcible suppression of opposition" Democrats literally weaponized the FBI to take down their political oppositions lol.

Tell me you believe anything the media says without telling me.🤦‍♂️

PS: Trump sucks

My sibling in Christ, Republicans say they want less government, but are more than happy to poke their noses into all sorts of things. For instance, Republican legislatures have used government to rob people of their bodily autonomy in medical decisions.

I remember all of the GOP whinging about "government-run death panels controlling your medical decisions" when the ACA was being debated. Who could've guessed it was projection?

If they want less government involvement then explain to me why they make it their cause to forbit abortion, label abortion pills unsafe and even make teaching scientific theories forbidden?

I though they were about the government being involved less not more?

Yeah I dont agree with that either.

Do you think whether you agree with the conservative stances that you defend has any bearing on how factually incorrect you are?

Well, I dont agree 100% with either side and they both have their flaws. I agree with more of Republicans points today, but abortion is definitely a huge no. Democrats have a lot of flaws too, to me its who's pros outweigh the cons, and as it stands Republicans are winning for me at the moment. Note that ibused to be a die hard Democrat and I even donated to Pete Buttigiege's comaign as well as Bernie Sanders (even had a bumper sticker lol). Democrats have lost my vote due to them not focusing onnreal world issues and living in fairy tale land. I care more about being a realist rather than an idealist. Facts over feelings.

I can only assume the people down voting you really like restricting abortion rights. Otherwise it makes no sense.

What doesn't make sense to me is why Republicans are called Fascist. You say that it involves a "centralized autocratic government", but the whole belief of Republicans is LESS government involvement.

"Severe economic and social regimentation" that doesn't make sense either considering the liberal states are having a mass exodus in favor of Republican states like Texas. Fun fact, Texas is the #1 state for business in the USA with the highest growth, and despite its smaller population, it almost has the same GDP as California (and substantially less residents). If "Fascists" are so bad, why is everyone moving to their states?

"Forcible suppression of opposition" Democrats literally weaponized the FBI to take down their political oppositions lol.

Tell me you believe anything the media says without telling me.🤦‍♂️

PS: Trump sucks

I'm not addressing the racist part of the post with this, just the "less government involvement" part:

  • anti-porn laws
  • educational restriction laws
  • abortion restriction laws
  • contraceptive restriction laws
  • laws attacking encryption

The list goes on (and I'm sure there are more laws passed that I'm forgetting about) but the first four categories are heavily pushed by the GOP and the last one they are still co-sponsors on (Lindsay Graham and Diane Feinstein both suck). Some of the laws that are being passed are even designed to restrict constituents even when they aren't in the state, and some even restrict their ability to LEAVE the state.

GOP is not the "less government" party, they are the "less government that allows things I don't like and more government that forces everyone in line" party. There really isn't a "less" government party, they're all just "different" government parties.

PS: Adding "PS: Trump sucks" at the end doesn't magically give everything else you said credence.

Current GOP policies are like a mishmash of policies pulled from dystopian sci-fi for the past 100 years: 1984, Handmaid's Tale, Brave New World, Fahrenheit 451, they're trying to bring back all the classics. In yet another example of how it's all just projection with them, it's actually the GOP that's trying to create a "nanny state", one that has control over even the most personal aspects of our lives. They've become so cartoonishly evil in how they're trying to make peoples' lives worse that it'd be funny if not for the fact that a good portion of the population supports them, they're actually putting alot of their policies into effect, and they have a Conservative majority in the Supreme Court. I don't see any of this ending well for America or the world at large.

Do you have any articles pertaining to the attacks against encryption? As a software engineer, that one I didn't know about and is really important to me.

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You’re mistaking the GOP’s words for their actions.

I don’t care what they say about small government, I care that they’re telling women what to do with their bodies. That they’re threatening election officials with violence. That protesters on the left get arrested and Proud Boys get escorts. This is what matters.

Just addressing the "almost has the same GDP as California" statement

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP

Nominal GDP 2022 California: $3,598,103 million USD Texas: $2,355,960 million USD

Per Capita GDP 2022 California: $92,190 Texas: $78,456

?????

It's a common lie. The reality is that red states score much lower on every objective quality of life metric, while having much higher rates of things like violent crime, addiction and suicide than any blue state let alone any of the US's peer nations in the rest of the developed world. It's not even remotely close. With very few exceptions, the social pathologies we see throughout the US are concentrated in red states. Blue states have problems too, but they tend to be related to the fact that they are highly desirable places to live.

Thank you for addressing that part! Easy to see the hard numbers don't play out that way.

Exactly. I never said they have the same,biit for the population difference its pretty high go there.

It's pretty rich for you to accuse people of just believing what they're told and also say that the GOP "want less government involvement."

  • Is dictating what sexualities are allowed to exist in public "wanting less government involvement?"

  • Is requiring schools to display a religious message "wanting less government involvement?"

  • Is censoring public library books "wanting less government involvement?"

  • Is the largest giveaway to billionaires and megacorps in our nation's history "wanting less government involvement?"

  • Is expanding the largest prison population in the whole world "wanting less government involvement?"

  • Is celebrating the infrastructure cash that comes to town despite voting against it "wanting less government involvement?

  • Is using our tax dollars to build weapons to sell to other countries "wanting less government involvement?"

As for "Texas is the #1 State for business," that's a meaningless platitude unless you specify what it's first in, and regardless capital is often in bed with fascists. Nicely done.

And regarding moving populations: how would that indicate that the GOP-run states are not fascist? Surely they would attract a population that agrees with the authoritarian policies against those who they see as their enemies? Is your whole argument "people who move can't be fascist sympathizers?" Cool story.

And your claim that the Democrats weaponized the FBI is just hilarious.

Less government involvement? Is that why you can't get an abortion after you're impregnated by your dad in half the states?

I dont agree with their take on abortion either.

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A political movement centered around freedom for the underside of that part of the roof which overhangs the rest of the building

Edit: or am I getting confused with that soffit sect of islam ?

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I especially enjoyed when she tried to call a meeting to order and all the dems laughed at her. She's a clown. She should be ostracized like the joke that she is.

Wow this is literally against her first and second amendment rights!!!1!

When will the Biden/Clinton/Obama's end their reign of tyranny???

She shouldn't be anywhere near a Congressional seat.

This is where they finally draw the line? They are ok with the Nazi shit, but can't call Boobert a bitch.

You need to understand, a good portion of the rights base sees the GOP as morally righteous Christians. Racism and homophobia are A-OK according the the bible (at least the parts they don't ignore). What matters to them is the GOP politicians appear to be the kind of person who never swears, rarely drinks (except beer), is morally pure in the bedroom (and if they aren't, it's just a crisis of faith), goes to bed early, and is working tirelessly to defend the country from the evil liberals and Joe Biden, who is somehow both a dementia-riddled invalid and also the anti-christ.

This is the kind of world view many of the rights supporters have. They don't particularly mind if you start promoting fascism or literally quote Hitler, as long as you still appear like the perfect example of someone living the 1960's American Dream. The kind of person who could be invited to the country club and is always helping at the church picnic.

But swearing?! One of the Stepford wives has caused a scene with her unchristian language and, my God, it's ruining the bake sale! She certainly won't be getting invites to any of the upcoming dinner parties.

I'm pretty sure all of them have put political campaign money towards those "Let's go Brandon" or less masked messages. It's not about the swearing, it's about the disloyalty. MTG doesn't have the "rank" to throw Boebert under the bus. If Trump did it they wouldn't have batted an eye.

Well, she said something true and they cannot allow that.

How Marj, that white trash shit flinging gibbon with a face like a bleached asshole, managed to get herself anywhere near leadership to the PTA... let alone the US Government... will perpetually be a reminder about how insane Republicans are now lol.

Breaking: Howler Monkey democratically voted out of enclosure by other monkeys

It's hard to believe that someone is too insane for the HFC. They're all insane.

It's not about her being too insane, unfortunately. It's about her not towing the line.

Too fascist for the Fascist Caucus. I didn't know that was a possibility.

"I think the way she referred to a fellow member was probably not the way we expect our members to refer to other fellow, especially female, members," Sounds like the Freedom Caucus is against freedom of speech!

Its funny because the republican conception of free speech is basically 'you should be able to verbally abuse people you dont like'

I love it when the MAGA trash eat each other!

Now go after every committee she's on too. They'll never expel her entirely but they can remove her from anything even remotely important.

Who knew watching a snake eat it’s own tail could be so fascinating.

So... this is like both a good and a bad thing simultaneously.

How so? {genuine question}

Basically, from what I've gathered, it could signal one of two things: 1.) MGT has mainlined her rhetoric so much that the truly far right think she's a "centrist," following McCarthy, etc. The Freedom Caucus doesn't like McCarthy and she's been whipping for him recently. 2.) The Freedom Caucus has dirt on her they plan to release ruining her re-election chances and thus are distancing themselves preemptively. This would be punishment for publicly feuding with Beobert.