Which is partly because people don't have as much money as they used to.
Which is partially felt more because and is exacerbated by the fact that companies and their shareholders feel entitled to capture every drop of money you have, to the point that buying a pizza comes with the option to spread the cost over four months just in case there’s 10$ from a person that they could only capture by offering the option.
I live half a planet away from America and even I’ve seen it. Disgusting.
Remember when we looked at phone apps that cost more than .99 and thought the developers were greedy?
Imagine how costy it is to pay for individual journalists subscriptions monthly
Why would anyone pay for viewing a website?
Why would anyone pay for viewing a website?
Or to put it another way,
Why would anyone pay for using a service that costs money to provide?
We were spoiled when the web started, but now that ad revenue has dried up, someone has to pay for hosting and content creators to eat.
I'm not a fan of giving every website $5 a month, there has to be a better way.
Advertisers did it to themselves.
Pop ups, pop unders, loud autoplay, focus stealing, taking up ungodly amounts of screen real estate, etc, etc.
I think the Brits have it right with BBC. It’s not perfect but everyone pays a tiny bit and it funds news and dedicated programming
What we really need is to reinstate the Fairness Doctorine and stare straight at fox
That's what NPR and PBS were supposed to be, but they're so perpetually underfunded that they're almost commercial stations. edit: with corporate sponsors and viewer funding pledge drives.
Some public stations have been taken over by right wing orgs that came in with massive funding.
This is where we got MSG round brown Ross and his happy little mountains after he stoped yelling, never stopped being an American veteran
How you gonna attack happy little mountain brushes?
Bob Ross' show ended 30 years ago, and PBS and NPR funding has declined even more as a proportion of operating costs since then.
Seems like an issue one might fix as a campaign bullet point, no?
Vote for me and we’ll keep Bob and Fred and educational stuff free to every tv. Crom knows the only way I became a hitchhiker instead of a missionary was shows on PBS like Red Dwarf, no network is gonna air that at 0300
Why would anyone provide content for free? Everyone needs to be paid for their work.
It doesn't necessarily have to be 'work', people used to make websites out of passion. Now everyone wants to monetize everything.
It is always work even if it’s a passion project.
People used to make shitty websites with good content but now they need to make good, professional looking websites for people to even look at them to decide on the whether the content was good.
This takes time and if you’re doing it for free then you’re choosing to do extra work on top of your day job.
As others have said, there are costs to hosting a website other than the time that you’re expecting people to give for free.
I feel like this is a dialectic that has been endorsed by the ruling class when talking about menial jobs. 'Now nobody wants to work' and whatnot
This is one of the reasons I left Reddit. Sure everyone needs to be paid for their work but it gets a little more suspect when I donate my time and attention, and it is monetized, and I still have to deal with too many ads
And someone who does NOT deserve to be paid is the “journalist” who writes those articles “LoveBunny68 on social media site Reddit said ….”. I guess I hope that is some sort of automation because no one deserves to be paid for that and I imagine an actual writer ready to commit suicide if stuck writing those
[Deep breath in.........]
Wealthy men that are perpetually insecure in life because their fathers didn't show them any outward affection when they were children are blindly and joylessly driven to increase a bank balance that they couldn't meaningfully decrease in a thousand lifetimes in the hope that it will make their fathers ghosts smile and pat them on the head (ghosts who don't even put out the effort to haunt their children anyways)
We’re all donating our time and attention to Lemmy, which is worth something even on a non-commercial site.
But yes, some of us also help with the costs and chores. I appreciate everyone who does but I also appreciate everyone who makes this an interesting place worth chipping in for
only if there are ads
I asked chatgpt & it said this:
"
The internet can feel overwhelming or negative at times due to various factors like misinformation, toxicity in online communities, and the sheer volume of content. It's important to curate your online experience by choosing reliable sources and engaging in positive communities that align with your interests and values. Taking breaks from the internet or limiting exposure to certain types of content can also help maintain a healthier online experience.
Don't share sensitive info. Chats may be reviewed and used to train our models.
Learn more
ChatGPT can make mistakes. Check important info.
"
I think that a better answer might have something to do with commercial interests.
That's a whole lot of words to say almost nothing.
thats machine learning for you
Yeah.
Flying squids answer was better.
One thing I thought generative ai would be better at is staying focused. I think this starts well but in the second half has too many unrelated sentences
I archived this cancerous bloated paywalled shit show of a website just on principle
https://archive.md/5qN2M
Why is so much of the internet terrible now fml
Cory Doctorow can explain it to you. He coined a term for it which has now become widespread, "enshittification." And it's all about money.
https://pluralistic.net/2023/01/21/potemkin-ai/#hey-guys
Because no one wants to pay for anything.
Which is partly because people don't have as much money as they used to.
Which is partially felt more because and is exacerbated by the fact that companies and their shareholders feel entitled to capture every drop of money you have, to the point that buying a pizza comes with the option to spread the cost over four months just in case there’s 10$ from a person that they could only capture by offering the option.
I live half a planet away from America and even I’ve seen it. Disgusting.
Remember when we looked at phone apps that cost more than .99 and thought the developers were greedy?
Imagine how costy it is to pay for individual journalists subscriptions monthly
Why would anyone pay for viewing a website?
Or to put it another way,
Why would anyone pay for using a service that costs money to provide?
We were spoiled when the web started, but now that ad revenue has dried up, someone has to pay for hosting and content creators to eat.
I'm not a fan of giving every website $5 a month, there has to be a better way.
Advertisers did it to themselves.
Pop ups, pop unders, loud autoplay, focus stealing, taking up ungodly amounts of screen real estate, etc, etc.
I think the Brits have it right with BBC. It’s not perfect but everyone pays a tiny bit and it funds news and dedicated programming
What we really need is to reinstate the Fairness Doctorine and stare straight at fox
That's what NPR and PBS were supposed to be, but they're so perpetually underfunded that they're almost commercial stations. edit: with corporate sponsors and viewer funding pledge drives.
Some public stations have been taken over by right wing orgs that came in with massive funding.
Gift link to SF Chronicle article
archived version
This is where we got MSG round brown Ross and his happy little mountains after he stoped yelling, never stopped being an American veteran
How you gonna attack happy little mountain brushes?
Bob Ross' show ended 30 years ago, and PBS and NPR funding has declined even more as a proportion of operating costs since then.
Seems like an issue one might fix as a campaign bullet point, no?
Vote for me and we’ll keep Bob and Fred and educational stuff free to every tv. Crom knows the only way I became a hitchhiker instead of a missionary was shows on PBS like Red Dwarf, no network is gonna air that at 0300
Why would anyone provide content for free? Everyone needs to be paid for their work.
It doesn't necessarily have to be 'work', people used to make websites out of passion. Now everyone wants to monetize everything.
It is always work even if it’s a passion project.
People used to make shitty websites with good content but now they need to make good, professional looking websites for people to even look at them to decide on the whether the content was good.
This takes time and if you’re doing it for free then you’re choosing to do extra work on top of your day job.
As others have said, there are costs to hosting a website other than the time that you’re expecting people to give for free.
I feel like this is a dialectic that has been endorsed by the ruling class when talking about menial jobs. 'Now nobody wants to work' and whatnot
This is one of the reasons I left Reddit. Sure everyone needs to be paid for their work but it gets a little more suspect when I donate my time and attention, and it is monetized, and I still have to deal with too many ads
And someone who does NOT deserve to be paid is the “journalist” who writes those articles “LoveBunny68 on social media site Reddit said ….”. I guess I hope that is some sort of automation because no one deserves to be paid for that and I imagine an actual writer ready to commit suicide if stuck writing those
[Deep breath in.........]
Wealthy men that are perpetually insecure in life because their fathers didn't show them any outward affection when they were children are blindly and joylessly driven to increase a bank balance that they couldn't meaningfully decrease in a thousand lifetimes in the hope that it will make their fathers ghosts smile and pat them on the head (ghosts who don't even put out the effort to haunt their children anyways)
I'm dizzy, what just happened?
When's the last time you donated to Lemmy.world?
We’re all donating our time and attention to Lemmy, which is worth something even on a non-commercial site.
But yes, some of us also help with the costs and chores. I appreciate everyone who does but I also appreciate everyone who makes this an interesting place worth chipping in for
only if there are ads
I asked chatgpt & it said this: " The internet can feel overwhelming or negative at times due to various factors like misinformation, toxicity in online communities, and the sheer volume of content. It's important to curate your online experience by choosing reliable sources and engaging in positive communities that align with your interests and values. Taking breaks from the internet or limiting exposure to certain types of content can also help maintain a healthier online experience. Don't share sensitive info. Chats may be reviewed and used to train our models. Learn more ChatGPT can make mistakes. Check important info. " I think that a better answer might have something to do with commercial interests.
That's a whole lot of words to say almost nothing.
thats machine learning for you
Yeah. Flying squids answer was better.
One thing I thought generative ai would be better at is staying focused. I think this starts well but in the second half has too many unrelated sentences