Because this country has a festering fascism problem
Perpetuated by an education problem
Caused by the fascist problem
Right....
I'm simply pointing out that facism is not at all a common endpoint one arrives at through accurate/natural/honest education. Unless you're born into the top echelons of wealth, hardly any political actions in current platforms are of true benefit to you.
I’m simply pointing out that facism is not at all a common endpoint
i mean, i feel like you could argue it's a common outcome for people that don't respect the system (i.e. trump)
Education may have a part in it, but people believed uri geller could break spoons...
Trump respected the system and thats why his "smol loan" got him places. That is the system. It was created by and for the very fuckery that he is known for.
i'm talking in a more directed political context, those who do not respect the decorum of the political institution are doomed to succumb to the fate of fascism inevitably.
The entire purpose of the decorum is for the system to function properly.
Decorum that asks for people to "respect" and follow is a built-in loophole.
Hard, robust, and readily reassessed punitive rules are the only solution.
yeah you can argue that, until a tank rolls up to the capitol, and that starts to become a seriously effective bargaining deal right there.
There is literally nothing more potent than using force. Decorum is what prevents everything from being some form of fascism at the end of the day. It needs to be upheld, either through law, or social behavior.
Thats literally what I said,except im not calling it decorum as thats a nonobligatory word for what should be forcibly compelled by law for all. And that law should be easily reaxamined and reformed so as to remain robust with time.
fair enough, but unfortunately, it does seem to be mostly just decorum, rather than law, considering that the immunity law passed, somehow.
It's important to remember that if someone doesn't respect the system, there is very little between them and changing it, regardless of what the system is setup to do.
I'm pretty sure I learned more about the US government growing up in Canada than a lot of US citizens. We had Schoolhouse Rock on tv with our Saturday morning cartoons (I'm old) and studied the US federal government structure for a few weeks in middle school.
The "intended" functions and responsibilities are still taught as far as I'm aware. The more accurate and honest current functions behind not only our own government, but others, is entirely missed at a highschool and below level, and is dependent on college professors personal political values for accuracy and honesty in relevant courses.
I would say most colleges don't require gov/civics courses either.
my HS had a rather comprehensive and detailed government course, as per state curriculum. So it depends on where you go i guess.
Always has been.
Nazis modeled their final solution after various aspects of slavery. Disney, Ford, trump ,and many other prominent Americans supported fascism and Hitler.
Because Russian money has infiltrated The Supremacy Court
Also the Senate. McTurtleFucker tanked both impeachments and then said that it was up to the legal system to hold him to account.
They knew what they were doing, and the whole fucking party is complicit.
blatant corruption that no one's doing anything about
Bin Laden didn't have shit on how much this guy is a threat to American democracy.
bin laden was an accelerationist and made it much easier for this orange sack of sh*t to, decades later, cleave the insane from a divided and distracted america.
Bin Laden was evil Dr. Strange. Saw millions of realities and chose the path that leads to Trump to destroy the USA.
agreed. dude had this country pegged 100%.
Corruption, due to the traitor John Roberts and his decision in Citizens United.
Merrick Garland.
Because they have managed to subvert the US legal system. Not that the other side made it particularly hard for them.
Hopefully this time with a competent President in the White House, a proper response will take place to any traitors. Maybe some more of these whackos can become martyrs for agent orange.
First was not a well planned attack. It was only a trial to see what would happen if they send a mob to the White House.
This time he won't have the advantage of already being in the white house and having the legitimacy of already running the government. I'm sure that will make things harder as well
I don’t understand why he’s not in prison after being found guilty. What happened to sentencing?
It was delayed till September as the judge needs to look at evidence admitted in the case that may now fall under the Supreme Courts made up presidential immunity ruling. Trump's team is trying to argue that the case should be tossed because evidence of things Trump did while in office were used during the trial (even though the crime started while he was only a candidate and was all admitted into evidence prior to this newly manufactured ruling).
white collar crimes are notoriously lax on criminal punishment when it comes to anything that isn't fines.
The last one didn't work, so that makes sense
Good god, why is he a free man
Why is he allowed to run for president?
Because this country has a festering fascism problem
Perpetuated by an education problem
Caused by the fascist problem
Right....
I'm simply pointing out that facism is not at all a common endpoint one arrives at through accurate/natural/honest education. Unless you're born into the top echelons of wealth, hardly any political actions in current platforms are of true benefit to you.
i mean, i feel like you could argue it's a common outcome for people that don't respect the system (i.e. trump)
Education may have a part in it, but people believed uri geller could break spoons...
Trump respected the system and thats why his "smol loan" got him places. That is the system. It was created by and for the very fuckery that he is known for.
i'm talking in a more directed political context, those who do not respect the decorum of the political institution are doomed to succumb to the fate of fascism inevitably.
The entire purpose of the decorum is for the system to function properly.
Decorum that asks for people to "respect" and follow is a built-in loophole.
Hard, robust, and readily reassessed punitive rules are the only solution.
yeah you can argue that, until a tank rolls up to the capitol, and that starts to become a seriously effective bargaining deal right there.
There is literally nothing more potent than using force. Decorum is what prevents everything from being some form of fascism at the end of the day. It needs to be upheld, either through law, or social behavior.
Thats literally what I said,except im not calling it decorum as thats a nonobligatory word for what should be forcibly compelled by law for all. And that law should be easily reaxamined and reformed so as to remain robust with time.
fair enough, but unfortunately, it does seem to be mostly just decorum, rather than law, considering that the immunity law passed, somehow.
It's important to remember that if someone doesn't respect the system, there is very little between them and changing it, regardless of what the system is setup to do.
I'm pretty sure I learned more about the US government growing up in Canada than a lot of US citizens. We had Schoolhouse Rock on tv with our Saturday morning cartoons (I'm old) and studied the US federal government structure for a few weeks in middle school.
The "intended" functions and responsibilities are still taught as far as I'm aware. The more accurate and honest current functions behind not only our own government, but others, is entirely missed at a highschool and below level, and is dependent on college professors personal political values for accuracy and honesty in relevant courses.
I would say most colleges don't require gov/civics courses either.
my HS had a rather comprehensive and detailed government course, as per state curriculum. So it depends on where you go i guess.
Always has been.
Nazis modeled their final solution after various aspects of slavery. Disney, Ford, trump ,and many other prominent Americans supported fascism and Hitler.
Because Russian money has infiltrated The Supremacy Court
Also the Senate. McTurtleFucker tanked both impeachments and then said that it was up to the legal system to hold him to account.
They knew what they were doing, and the whole fucking party is complicit.
blatant corruption that no one's doing anything about
Bin Laden didn't have shit on how much this guy is a threat to American democracy.
bin laden was an accelerationist and made it much easier for this orange sack of sh*t to, decades later, cleave the insane from a divided and distracted america.
Bin Laden was evil Dr. Strange. Saw millions of realities and chose the path that leads to Trump to destroy the USA.
agreed. dude had this country pegged 100%.
Corruption, due to the traitor John Roberts and his decision in Citizens United.
Merrick Garland.
Because they have managed to subvert the US legal system. Not that the other side made it particularly hard for them.
Hopefully this time with a competent President in the White House, a proper response will take place to any traitors. Maybe some more of these whackos can become martyrs for agent orange.
First was not a well planned attack. It was only a trial to see what would happen if they send a mob to the White House.
This time he won't have the advantage of already being in the white house and having the legitimacy of already running the government. I'm sure that will make things harder as well
I don’t understand why he’s not in prison after being found guilty. What happened to sentencing?
It was delayed till September as the judge needs to look at evidence admitted in the case that may now fall under the Supreme Courts made up presidential immunity ruling. Trump's team is trying to argue that the case should be tossed because evidence of things Trump did while in office were used during the trial (even though the crime started while he was only a candidate and was all admitted into evidence prior to this newly manufactured ruling).
white collar crimes are notoriously lax on criminal punishment when it comes to anything that isn't fines.