Joe Rogan Says It’s a ‘Fact’ That Jan. 6 Was a False Flag, Cites Ray Epps

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Joe Rogan Says It’s a ‘Fact’ That Jan. 6 Was a False Flag, Cites Ray Epps
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Rogan promoted the conspiracy theory that Epps was an “agent provocateur” for the feds, a baseless claim that has led to a defamation suit against Fox News.

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Fucking Spotify using my money to pay this nutjob really pisses me off

Vote with your wallet. Deezer is pretty good. I switched to them when Spotify decided I needed Rogan in my life despite their algorithm undoubtedly indicating otherwise.

I switched to YouTube music and have been happy with it. The family plan is about the same price as Spotify and includes YouTube premium which has been an unexpectedly nice bonus.

I’m kinda the opposite: I got YouTube Red (now Premium) to kill ads and got a music service for “free.”

With the added bonus of no Rogan.

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Recommend Tidal as well if you like smaller artists. The search feature is nowhere near as good, but the curated playlists seem better to me. And you're top 2 artists of the month, I think, get 10% of your subscription fee directly.

I do encourage everyone to drop all Meta platforms, but generally speaking "vote with your wallet" is ineffectual.

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

Edit: choosing what makes you happier is never ineffectual, but capitalism is not a democracy. You can't "vote" out a company by choosing not to use their product, especially when that company owns many of the options or has control over the majority of the market.

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.

How is voting with your wallet ineffectual?

There's a confirmation bias at work here. The shitty things people didn't pay for don't exist.

A few people voting with their dollars is completely useless. You're also talking about an international business with more users outside the US than in it, who don't need to care about Joe Rogan.

https://observer.case.edu/why-internet-boycotts-dont-work/

https://techcrunch.com/2023/04/25/spotify-now-has-more-than-500m-users/

That said, I don't eat at Chick-fil-A because of their shitty politics. I understand that me not eating there isn't creating any actual change, but I'm still not going to do it.

People should absolutely feel free to make these changes whenever they want, but you should realize that Spotify has grown subscribers since you left and they don't care that you did.

Yes, but a useful "evil" thing will continue to exist because it is useful. The majority of people value something useful/convenient WAY more than they care about morals.

OldPersonDiaperSeasoning.com won't last because it's simply awful, but Meta/Amazon just won't seem to die no matter how many people hate it and choose to leave because it is useful.

I understand it's an unpopular opinion, but you don't become the size of Meta without leveraging significant market power.

Consumer boycotts have their place, but rarely exercise the same level of influence over a company than other methods of activism.

Meta can easily just buy the next most popular alternative anyway (as they have repeatedly).

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Stop paying for, and using Spotify. That way you know that you aren't supporting him.

I switched to Tidal when he first started going on with the COVID misinformation. Haven't looked back.

same. Tidal is awesome

Tidal is not bad

Source: I switched to tidal when they picked up Rogan and started cramming his show down my throat

Highly recommend piracy.

It's hard for music unfortunately

Get a Deezer account and use Deemix to 'archive' all the music you'd be sad if it went away. Yknow, just in case.

Not if you use Soulseek.

Wait… Soulseek is still a thing? I have fond memories of running a client on our schools sever 20+ years ago. Let it download all night. Grab it once I was back in class.

Great times.

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Then stop giving Spotify your money. Thats on you.

Yep it's totally unnecessary to pay anyone for streaming music.

Just obtain your own MP3s of the music you prefer, and listen to those files on your device. It's the 2000s way to music, and it's still the best.

Internet connectivity is not available everywhere, so you may encounter areas that streaming doesn't work. MP3 collections don't have that problem.

You can also get your own Plex server or something like that if you really just want to stream your music. That's another way to have your music on hand without bullshit subscriptions.

They even had the gall to put this piece of shit in my Recommended Podcasts feed. Back to SoulSeek it is for me!

Fuck Spotify for using money to pay ANY podcast to be exclusively there.

Podcasts are an open medium that is decentralized and allows free choice of client and they are trying to monopolize it

I canceled Spotify for Tidal when they announced the big deal for him. They are not as good as Spotify at helping me find new music, but they seem less evil. I put "Rogan" as my reason from cancelling.

Use xManager. All the benefits excluding downloading songs. It's updated once in a while too

I use a patched spotify apk for android and a spotify webapp with ublock origin on my PC. I've never needed to pay for premium and it works just fine.

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