It will die a slow death as the content creators and news organizations leave it.
It won't happen overnight. But removing Block and requiring IDs will help speed that along.
Oh man I just had a thought. If they require an ID for auth, someone at the news agency has to validate their ID. If that person gets fired, and decides to use their ID to validate ownership and change the password on the account, malicious activity ensues.
They’re requiring ID to sign up?
Damn, I hope that’s true.
No, it's for a blue check.
When it stops being relevant in the cultural consciousness.
One of the reasons people use Twitter is for up-to-date news and notifications on events. As official organisations move away from it and the user experience degrades, it will just fade away like MySpace.
You can already see this happening. My guess is that it will just go on slow decline. I would bet Twitter will not be nearly as relevant in a year.
X.com returning 404 every time it's visited
the exact reason I thought of, but you worded it much better than I would have
When your local politicians and journalists start to use Mastodon or similar apps.
Twitter is popular because of the massive user base. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts, where people use Twitter for the massive user base, which encourages more people to use Twitter. So escaping that spiral will require a mass exodus to something new. Because artists, musicians, celebrities, etc rely on that large user base to gain and maintain a following. So as long as Twitter has the users, that’s where the content will be.
Threads was a good indicator that people are willing to move if the new platform is available. Unfortunately for Threads, the launch was a fucking train wreck, so people quickly got tired of it and returned to Twitter. They didn’t even have basic functionality figured out. But as a proof of concept, it showed that people aren’t tied to Twitter specifically; They’re tied to the user base. If a new service manages to cultivate that user base, people will be willing to migrate.
Mastodon’s big issue so far has largely been visibility. People simply don’t know it exists, and the people who do know about it use it as a backup for their Twitter; They’re not using it to replace Twitter, but rather they’re double-posting everything to both Twitter and Mastodon. So the Twitter users have no reason to move to Mastodon, because the Mastodon users are still using Twitter. It’s a catch-22, where the Mastodon users need to use Twitter to maintain visibility, but then the Twitter users will never switch to Mastodon because everyone is still using Twitter.
You’re forgetting one very important thing.
In the virtual world, people can be in more than one place at a time.
Nobody “moved” to Threads, really, people just gave it a try to see what it was about.
There is no world or future that exists where something gets released that causes people to go through the effort of deleting their twitter account.
People are lazy and lean towards convenience, me included.
The hope I have in Mastodon is that more organisations realise they can host their own instance and control their user accounts themselves.
I don't know that visibility is Mastodon's biggest problem. I've talked to a lot of people who tried it but just didn't find it easy to use and just bailed. I think people expecting it to be diet Twitter and getting frustrated when it isn't as populated or user friendly is a bigger issue at this point.
Such massive and old platform won't lose its userbase just because it undergoes a wild evolution. Look at .tumblr, facebook...
Instead, ask what it takes for eXTwitter to stop being any important.
I actually like Tumblr but due to their horrible app, I just quit it. Deleted my account and removed the app.
Been trying to find an similar platform but to no luck.
Tried ‘Pixelfed’ but their app isn’t great either and the platform seems empty.
Pixelfed has over 20 million of postings and is under heavy development, I hope you give it another chance in the future :)
But only because I've never had an account. No thanks.
"I will never use Twitter in the future. I never did, but I never will, too." - Mitch Hedberg, probably
What ever it is, Elon Musk is working on it.
We need massive 100m follower celebrities to start migrating. News will follow and content creators will adapt. Look at how Taylor Swift move army of people into stadiums globally. That’s the kind of swaying power it needs. But they’ll need proper incentive to actively talk shit about X and ditch it.
People need to be able to use their brains. I see it difficult.
It's becoming less and less relevant, but corporations need to get off of it. I work in the IT industry, and the MECM community is pretty active on it. I wish there would be an exodus to something else. Unfortunately Microsoft and their engineers still use it heavily.
A better service.
It's going to take a seemless to register platform that offers comparable features to Twitter and then massive accounts switching over and actually leaving Twitter behind.
Right now Threads seems to be the closest, but they lack the feature set Twitter has like search and hashtags so the big accounts only tried it out before running back to what worked for them. Not to mention they don't have a usable web page for the platform either which alienates a lot of desktop users.
If Threads adds those things in, I fully believe more of the bigger accounts will transition over with their following and it'll snowball to become a massive platform. Whether it stays a good site remains to be seen, it is Meta after all.
The longer it takes, the worse it is for every user on every (corporate-run) platform. All of the recent actions are openly and extremely hostile to the user base. The fact that people are still (generally) putting up with it has emboldened others (esp. Reddit) to take similarly hostile actions. They all (at least think) they have a free pass for all this shittiness, and the users will accept it.
I'm waiting for musk to paywall the whole site tbh.
If the clowns who endlessly complain about Musk just stopped complaining about him on his own platform, the entire site would collapse.
You know how x's are. They always find somebody else.
To be honest I never needed Twitter, but I made an account since some of users of my software asked that I announce new versions there. So now I have an account which I sporadically use for tech support for some companies in my country. If Twitter dies, I don't need any similar social network. Its only benefit was being able to publicly reach any user.
What are you talking about?
Within the vast panorama of human evolution, marked by our incessant need for connection and the translation of thought into communicable form, the digital age has brought forth a myriad of platforms, attempting to encapsulate this quintessential human endeavor. Among these, 'X' emerges not merely as another node in this expansive network, but rather, as a pinnacle, a zenith if you will, of social media constructs. It might be apt to posit that in the annals of human history, 'X' stands as an unparalleled manifestation of the synthesis between technology and the human psyche, a virtual agora where ideas, images, and impulses find their most resonant expression.
However, delving deeper into the complex terrains of discourse and communication, we encounter the age-old debate surrounding the sanctity of 'freedom of speech'. For many, this freedom is the bedrock upon which democratic societies are constructed, a non-negotiable facet of human dignity. Yet, in the shadows of this grand ideal, lies the provocative assertion that perhaps, just perhaps, freedom of speech is not the panacea we've held it to be. Some might argue, in the labyrinthine corridors of intellectual discourse, that this freedom is not only susceptible to misuse, but its unbridled application could potentially unleash chaos, echoing the age-old Jungian motif of order and chaos. In such a perspective, the carte blanche that absolute freedom of speech promises might be an overrated luxury, one that needs recalibration in the face of the modern world's intricacies and the moral quagmires that platforms like 'X' can inadvertently host.
I, for one, adore my incompetent alt-right overlord god-like mentor, Elon.
It's closure
Time.
Iris verification to confirm identity and log in
This would be amazing.
It would wipe out 99.999% of all trolls and propaganda accounts.
How would that kill twitter?
How would that kill twitter?
I mean, you just wipped out 99.99% of all accounts.
And they were all trash, so the quality vs quantity just went up almost 100 fold.
So that would be awesome.
Nuclear war? A world wide blackout? Elon just deleting it?
Elon continuing to not pay bills
Depends.
Losing the ability to block promoted content.
404 webpage not found
An alternative that is easy to join for every normie, where NSFW is allowed, and the service works seamlessly 24/7.
we would have to look for clues on social media that imploded in the past, like myspace, hi5, etc
Someone explained pretty well above, visibility and infrastructure to host a massive userbase, also accesability would be key. If people are scared of words they dont understand like decentralized, why switch when centralized worked somehow.
Twitter isn't technically useless at this time, not yet. Not like, say, YouTube, where actual functionalities were literally flushed down the toilet. If this not making YouTube drop from second place on most popular websites is anything to go by, Twitter's not really going anywhere, plus being a billionaire, Musk can afford a period of near-inactivity.
You had me until you said YouTube was useless.
I just used it to fix my dishwasher and it saved me hundreds on a service call and repair.
Same for a squealing toilet. Two bucks to replace a single part.
YouTube is awesome.
I mean in the sense of using it as one would use an online community. The ability to comment on videos was thanosed by COPPA, their popularity system is far beyond fixable, and big businesses convince YouTube to take down innocent videos for no reason all the time.
It will die a slow death as the content creators and news organizations leave it.
It won't happen overnight. But removing Block and requiring IDs will help speed that along.
Oh man I just had a thought. If they require an ID for auth, someone at the news agency has to validate their ID. If that person gets fired, and decides to use their ID to validate ownership and change the password on the account, malicious activity ensues.
They’re requiring ID to sign up?
Damn, I hope that’s true.
No, it's for a blue check.
When it stops being relevant in the cultural consciousness.
One of the reasons people use Twitter is for up-to-date news and notifications on events. As official organisations move away from it and the user experience degrades, it will just fade away like MySpace.
You can already see this happening. My guess is that it will just go on slow decline. I would bet Twitter will not be nearly as relevant in a year.
X.com returning 404 every time it's visited
the exact reason I thought of, but you worded it much better than I would have
When your local politicians and journalists start to use Mastodon or similar apps.
Twitter is popular because of the massive user base. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy of sorts, where people use Twitter for the massive user base, which encourages more people to use Twitter. So escaping that spiral will require a mass exodus to something new. Because artists, musicians, celebrities, etc rely on that large user base to gain and maintain a following. So as long as Twitter has the users, that’s where the content will be.
Threads was a good indicator that people are willing to move if the new platform is available. Unfortunately for Threads, the launch was a fucking train wreck, so people quickly got tired of it and returned to Twitter. They didn’t even have basic functionality figured out. But as a proof of concept, it showed that people aren’t tied to Twitter specifically; They’re tied to the user base. If a new service manages to cultivate that user base, people will be willing to migrate.
Mastodon’s big issue so far has largely been visibility. People simply don’t know it exists, and the people who do know about it use it as a backup for their Twitter; They’re not using it to replace Twitter, but rather they’re double-posting everything to both Twitter and Mastodon. So the Twitter users have no reason to move to Mastodon, because the Mastodon users are still using Twitter. It’s a catch-22, where the Mastodon users need to use Twitter to maintain visibility, but then the Twitter users will never switch to Mastodon because everyone is still using Twitter.
You’re forgetting one very important thing.
In the virtual world, people can be in more than one place at a time.
Nobody “moved” to Threads, really, people just gave it a try to see what it was about.
There is no world or future that exists where something gets released that causes people to go through the effort of deleting their twitter account.
People are lazy and lean towards convenience, me included.
The hope I have in Mastodon is that more organisations realise they can host their own instance and control their user accounts themselves.
I don't know that visibility is Mastodon's biggest problem. I've talked to a lot of people who tried it but just didn't find it easy to use and just bailed. I think people expecting it to be diet Twitter and getting frustrated when it isn't as populated or user friendly is a bigger issue at this point.
Such massive and old platform won't lose its userbase just because it undergoes a wild evolution. Look at .tumblr, facebook...
Instead, ask what it takes for eXTwitter to stop being any important.
I actually like Tumblr but due to their horrible app, I just quit it. Deleted my account and removed the app.
Been trying to find an similar platform but to no luck.
Tried ‘Pixelfed’ but their app isn’t great either and the platform seems empty.
Pixelfed has over 20 million of postings and is under heavy development, I hope you give it another chance in the future :)
Try the „Vernissage“ app for Pixelfed.
I'm never going to quit it!
But only because I've never had an account. No thanks.
"I will never use Twitter in the future. I never did, but I never will, too." - Mitch Hedberg, probably
What ever it is, Elon Musk is working on it.
We need massive 100m follower celebrities to start migrating. News will follow and content creators will adapt. Look at how Taylor Swift move army of people into stadiums globally. That’s the kind of swaying power it needs. But they’ll need proper incentive to actively talk shit about X and ditch it.
People need to be able to use their brains. I see it difficult.
It's becoming less and less relevant, but corporations need to get off of it. I work in the IT industry, and the MECM community is pretty active on it. I wish there would be an exodus to something else. Unfortunately Microsoft and their engineers still use it heavily.
A better service.
It's going to take a seemless to register platform that offers comparable features to Twitter and then massive accounts switching over and actually leaving Twitter behind.
Right now Threads seems to be the closest, but they lack the feature set Twitter has like search and hashtags so the big accounts only tried it out before running back to what worked for them. Not to mention they don't have a usable web page for the platform either which alienates a lot of desktop users.
If Threads adds those things in, I fully believe more of the bigger accounts will transition over with their following and it'll snowball to become a massive platform. Whether it stays a good site remains to be seen, it is Meta after all.
The longer it takes, the worse it is for every user on every (corporate-run) platform. All of the recent actions are openly and extremely hostile to the user base. The fact that people are still (generally) putting up with it has emboldened others (esp. Reddit) to take similarly hostile actions. They all (at least think) they have a free pass for all this shittiness, and the users will accept it.
I'm waiting for musk to paywall the whole site tbh.
If the clowns who endlessly complain about Musk just stopped complaining about him on his own platform, the entire site would collapse.
You know how x's are. They always find somebody else.
To be honest I never needed Twitter, but I made an account since some of users of my software asked that I announce new versions there. So now I have an account which I sporadically use for tech support for some companies in my country. If Twitter dies, I don't need any similar social network. Its only benefit was being able to publicly reach any user.
What are you talking about?
Within the vast panorama of human evolution, marked by our incessant need for connection and the translation of thought into communicable form, the digital age has brought forth a myriad of platforms, attempting to encapsulate this quintessential human endeavor. Among these, 'X' emerges not merely as another node in this expansive network, but rather, as a pinnacle, a zenith if you will, of social media constructs. It might be apt to posit that in the annals of human history, 'X' stands as an unparalleled manifestation of the synthesis between technology and the human psyche, a virtual agora where ideas, images, and impulses find their most resonant expression.
However, delving deeper into the complex terrains of discourse and communication, we encounter the age-old debate surrounding the sanctity of 'freedom of speech'. For many, this freedom is the bedrock upon which democratic societies are constructed, a non-negotiable facet of human dignity. Yet, in the shadows of this grand ideal, lies the provocative assertion that perhaps, just perhaps, freedom of speech is not the panacea we've held it to be. Some might argue, in the labyrinthine corridors of intellectual discourse, that this freedom is not only susceptible to misuse, but its unbridled application could potentially unleash chaos, echoing the age-old Jungian motif of order and chaos. In such a perspective, the carte blanche that absolute freedom of speech promises might be an overrated luxury, one that needs recalibration in the face of the modern world's intricacies and the moral quagmires that platforms like 'X' can inadvertently host.
I, for one, adore my
incompetent alt-right overlordgod-like mentor, Elon.It's closure
Time.
Iris verification to confirm identity and log in
This would be amazing.
It would wipe out 99.999% of all trolls and propaganda accounts.
How would that kill twitter?
I mean, you just wipped out 99.99% of all accounts.
And they were all trash, so the quality vs quantity just went up almost 100 fold.
So that would be awesome.
Nuclear war? A world wide blackout? Elon just deleting it?
Elon continuing to not pay bills
Depends.
Losing the ability to block promoted content.
404 webpage not found
An alternative that is easy to join for every normie, where NSFW is allowed, and the service works seamlessly 24/7.
we would have to look for clues on social media that imploded in the past, like myspace, hi5, etc
Someone explained pretty well above, visibility and infrastructure to host a massive userbase, also accesability would be key. If people are scared of words they dont understand like decentralized, why switch when centralized worked somehow.
Twitter isn't technically useless at this time, not yet. Not like, say, YouTube, where actual functionalities were literally flushed down the toilet. If this not making YouTube drop from second place on most popular websites is anything to go by, Twitter's not really going anywhere, plus being a billionaire, Musk can afford a period of near-inactivity.
You had me until you said YouTube was useless.
I just used it to fix my dishwasher and it saved me hundreds on a service call and repair.
Same for a squealing toilet. Two bucks to replace a single part.
YouTube is awesome.
I mean in the sense of using it as one would use an online community. The ability to comment on videos was thanosed by COPPA, their popularity system is far beyond fixable, and big businesses convince YouTube to take down innocent videos for no reason all the time.
Meh, gotta protect the keeeeeeeeeds.