The most impressive is a windows machine with 13 days of uptime
I have 3 windows machines in my house that are over 50 days running right now
It's also an unimportant stat considering that any modern, well configured Windows machine should have reboot times of under a minute.
Thing is there are so few things to count against Windows compared to MacOS or Linux, they need to make the most minor of inconveniences seem astronomical by comparison. "Haha you have to install a security update you can delay for 5 weeks that takes 4 seconds to install"
It's the "you can delay" bit. It's MY machine. If I don't want the update so be it. I get the windows os is a liscence not a purchase, so they have every right. That doesn't mean I have to like it, and I'm happy there are alternatives. That permeates through the whole OS. If theres software I don't want, just because I don't like the name, I can remove it.
That might not matter to you, but it matters to a lot of people. Enough, in fact, to build an maintain multiple operating systems, as it turns out.
If your fine want updates you can literally just... Duane them through group policy. But that's not a good idea. What they are forcing are security updates. You really want those. They don't take very long at all and their effectiveness increases based on how many people are up to date. The more people who are up to date the more difficult and expensive it is to create malicious software, it also becomes more difficult to spread malicious software to begin with.
That sounds very much more convoluted than what I'm doing now, which also allows me to not have polls on what my favorite BBQ side dish is in my menu options. So again, happy it works for you, but I'll stick to linux thanks.
What?
What what? Do you mean about how windows is putting surveys around that random cooking channel type stuff in the search bar? In in US I can promise yes that happens. And in regards to what you mentioned about disabling updates, I can't do that a usual usuer.
So again I say: Cool. All within your rights. But I'm out.
What? We were talking about updates and now something completely different? I have like 7 windows 11 machines none are making me fill out polls. What search bar are you even talking about?
I get random stuff in my windows search bar trying to drag me into bing. Maybe you didn't get one but I absolutely got something among my list of programs after hitting start. Not a "tile" or what ever it's called, literally interspersed among the list of programs.
And my broader point is: I'm glad it works for you, but again, there's enough people that don't like it that they made their own. It's not a superiority thing, it's just the fact that if there's enough people to build and maintain multiple OS, then there must be features that they want that Windows wasn't offering.
Again, the best OS is the one that works for you, but Linux distros don't exist just for the fun of it (except weird ones like Hannah Montana I guess...) or to just be a re-skinned windows.
Search bar? You disable that on install. You don't really use the start bar anymore either. Everyone I know just hits the windows key and types the first couple letters and hits enter I don't really look at what's on the start bar
In January of last year MS put out a kb that would repeatedly reboot your machine if it was an active directory controller, or if it was a hyper-v host it would refuse to turn on VMs, if you were running 2012 R2.
Not only this is bullshit for a production os (like this is 5 minutes of testing, come on), it took them several months to put out a corrective KB. In the mean time, all you could do was not install it and try to uninstall it on hosts that would reboot repeatedly. It's windows server so it doesn't nag you for updates but still.
Nowadays especially so. Itβs like Android vs iOS. Both OSes are good and now so are Windows, Linux and macOS. Use whatever you prefer, just know how to use it so you donβt blow up non-issues.
I'm not sure if you're joking or being serious. Long uptimes are not an issue anymore on Windows.
Except occasionally when you factor in the automatic forced updates and resulting required reboots.
I haven't had that since like xp or vista days. Just told it to do it when I ask and it always does.
You can turn those off with the pro version.
Lol... I've worked in IT for over 25 years... I'm aware.
So you do know that isn't a problem then...
It's absolutely a problem... For some people.
fastboot entered the chat
tbf I regularly have an uptime of 14+ minutes on my gaming rig.
Amateur. My dev laptop restarts about 1.5 times per Windows update, my gaming desktop restarts a couple times a year
It makes you more in touch with the universe. With runtimes lasting months, you get to see how cosmic rays cause new and unexpected "features". I've started to look up solar weather when things start to act extra weird, and it actually lines up
Hibernation baby!
Quite normal for a laptop, since it can use Windows Modern Standby (if it works)
I'm at 15 on my Minecraft server now, but I'm pretty sure the last restart was intentional also
I recently took down a Windows server for a reboot at 1300 days uptime
It hadn't been updated in 3.5 years? And the UPS (I'm assuming it had one) battery lasted that long too?
It hadnβt been updated in 3.5 years?
Remarkably common for more Exchange or AD servers then you'd be comfortable knowing about
I once saw a computer at my workplace with over a year of uptime...
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as iPad OS, is in fact, GNU/Unix/NextSTEP/Mac OS X/iPad OS, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Unix plus NextSTEP plus Mac OS X plus iPad OS. iPad OS is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another closed source component of a fully functioning Apple system made useful by the NextSTEP corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS more or less abiding to POSIX.
Um ackchyually, Darwin is derived from 4.4BSD-Lite2 and FreeBSD.
using terminal instead of powershell? smh my head.
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Windows Terminal, is in fact, PowerShell/Windows Terminal, or as I've recently taken to calling it, PowerShell plus Windows Terminal. Windows Terminal is not a shell unto itself, but rather another component of a fully functioning command line environment made useful by the PowerShell shell, command line utilities and vital cmdlets comprising a full environment as defined by Microsoft.
Many computer users run a modified version of PowerShell every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of PowerShell which is widely used today is often called Windows Terminal, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the PowerShell system, developed by the PowerShell Project.
There really is a Windows Terminal, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Windows Terminal is the terminal emulator: the program in the system that handles console I/O for the other programs that you run. The terminal emulator is an essential part of a command line environment, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete command line environment. Windows Terminal is normally used in combination with the PowerShell shell: the whole system is basically PowerShell with Windows Terminal added, or PowerShell/Windows Terminal. All the so-called Windows Terminal distributions are really distributions of PowerShell/Windows Terminal!
Damn this is too good
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What theyβre refering to as Windows Terminal, is in fact, PowerShell/Windows Terminal, or as I've recently taken to calling it, PowerShell plus Windows Terminal. Windows Terminal is not a shell unto itself, but rather another component of a fully functioning command line environment made useful by the PowerShell shell, command line utilities and vital cmdlets comprising a full environment as defined by Microsoft.
Many computer users run a modified version of PowerShell every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of PowerShell which is widely used today is often called Windows Terminal, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the PowerShell system, developed by the PowerShell Project.
There really is a Windows Terminal, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Windows Terminal is the terminal emulator: the program in the system that handles console I/O for the other programs that you run. The terminal emulator is an essential part of a command line environment, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete command line environment. Windows Terminal is normally used in combination with the PowerShell shell: the whole system is basically PowerShell with Windows Terminal added, or PowerShell/Windows Terminal. All the so-called Windows Terminal distributions are really distributions of PowerShell/Windows Terminal!
The most impressive is a windows machine with 13 days of uptime
I have 3 windows machines in my house that are over 50 days running right now
It's also an unimportant stat considering that any modern, well configured Windows machine should have reboot times of under a minute.
Thing is there are so few things to count against Windows compared to MacOS or Linux, they need to make the most minor of inconveniences seem astronomical by comparison. "Haha you have to install a security update you can delay for 5 weeks that takes 4 seconds to install"
It's the "you can delay" bit. It's MY machine. If I don't want the update so be it. I get the windows os is a liscence not a purchase, so they have every right. That doesn't mean I have to like it, and I'm happy there are alternatives. That permeates through the whole OS. If theres software I don't want, just because I don't like the name, I can remove it.
That might not matter to you, but it matters to a lot of people. Enough, in fact, to build an maintain multiple operating systems, as it turns out.
If your fine want updates you can literally just... Duane them through group policy. But that's not a good idea. What they are forcing are security updates. You really want those. They don't take very long at all and their effectiveness increases based on how many people are up to date. The more people who are up to date the more difficult and expensive it is to create malicious software, it also becomes more difficult to spread malicious software to begin with.
That sounds very much more convoluted than what I'm doing now, which also allows me to not have polls on what my favorite BBQ side dish is in my menu options. So again, happy it works for you, but I'll stick to linux thanks.
What?
What what? Do you mean about how windows is putting surveys around that random cooking channel type stuff in the search bar? In in US I can promise yes that happens. And in regards to what you mentioned about disabling updates, I can't do that a usual usuer.
So again I say: Cool. All within your rights. But I'm out.
What? We were talking about updates and now something completely different? I have like 7 windows 11 machines none are making me fill out polls. What search bar are you even talking about?
I get random stuff in my windows search bar trying to drag me into bing. Maybe you didn't get one but I absolutely got something among my list of programs after hitting start. Not a "tile" or what ever it's called, literally interspersed among the list of programs.
And my broader point is: I'm glad it works for you, but again, there's enough people that don't like it that they made their own. It's not a superiority thing, it's just the fact that if there's enough people to build and maintain multiple OS, then there must be features that they want that Windows wasn't offering.
Again, the best OS is the one that works for you, but Linux distros don't exist just for the fun of it (except weird ones like Hannah Montana I guess...) or to just be a re-skinned windows.
Search bar? You disable that on install. You don't really use the start bar anymore either. Everyone I know just hits the windows key and types the first couple letters and hits enter I don't really look at what's on the start bar
Windows updates are particularly under-tested
In January of last year MS put out a kb that would repeatedly reboot your machine if it was an active directory controller, or if it was a hyper-v host it would refuse to turn on VMs, if you were running 2012 R2.
Not only this is bullshit for a production os (like this is 5 minutes of testing, come on), it took them several months to put out a corrective KB. In the mean time, all you could do was not install it and try to uninstall it on hosts that would reboot repeatedly. It's windows server so it doesn't nag you for updates but still.
Nowadays especially so. Itβs like Android vs iOS. Both OSes are good and now so are Windows, Linux and macOS. Use whatever you prefer, just know how to use it so you donβt blow up non-issues.
I'm not sure if you're joking or being serious. Long uptimes are not an issue anymore on Windows.
Except occasionally when you factor in the automatic forced updates and resulting required reboots.
I haven't had that since like xp or vista days. Just told it to do it when I ask and it always does.
You can turn those off with the pro version.
Lol... I've worked in IT for over 25 years... I'm aware.
So you do know that isn't a problem then...
It's absolutely a problem... For some people.
tbf I regularly have an uptime of 14+ minutes on my gaming rig.
Amateur. My dev laptop restarts about 1.5 times per Windows update, my gaming desktop restarts a couple times a year
It makes you more in touch with the universe. With runtimes lasting months, you get to see how cosmic rays cause new and unexpected "features". I've started to look up solar weather when things start to act extra weird, and it actually lines up
Hibernation baby!
Quite normal for a laptop, since it can use Windows Modern Standby (if it works)
I'm at 15 on my Minecraft server now, but I'm pretty sure the last restart was intentional also
I recently took down a Windows server for a reboot at 1300 days uptime
It hadn't been updated in 3.5 years? And the UPS (I'm assuming it had one) battery lasted that long too?
Remarkably common for more Exchange or AD servers then you'd be comfortable knowing about
I once saw a computer at my workplace with over a year of uptime...
Sleep, Data.
GNU/iPadOS or something (btw new dopamine release is really stable)
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as iPad OS, is in fact, GNU/Unix/NextSTEP/Mac OS X/iPad OS, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Unix plus NextSTEP plus Mac OS X plus iPad OS. iPad OS is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another closed source component of a fully functioning Apple system made useful by the NextSTEP corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS more or less abiding to POSIX.
Um ackchyually, Darwin is derived from 4.4BSD-Lite2 and FreeBSD.
using terminal instead of powershell? smh my head.
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're refering to as Windows Terminal, is in fact, PowerShell/Windows Terminal, or as I've recently taken to calling it, PowerShell plus Windows Terminal. Windows Terminal is not a shell unto itself, but rather another component of a fully functioning command line environment made useful by the PowerShell shell, command line utilities and vital cmdlets comprising a full environment as defined by Microsoft.
Many computer users run a modified version of PowerShell every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of PowerShell which is widely used today is often called Windows Terminal, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the PowerShell system, developed by the PowerShell Project.
There really is a Windows Terminal, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Windows Terminal is the terminal emulator: the program in the system that handles console I/O for the other programs that you run. The terminal emulator is an essential part of a command line environment, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete command line environment. Windows Terminal is normally used in combination with the PowerShell shell: the whole system is basically PowerShell with Windows Terminal added, or PowerShell/Windows Terminal. All the so-called Windows Terminal distributions are really distributions of PowerShell/Windows Terminal!
Damn this is too good
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What theyβre refering to as Windows Terminal, is in fact, PowerShell/Windows Terminal, or as I've recently taken to calling it, PowerShell plus Windows Terminal. Windows Terminal is not a shell unto itself, but rather another component of a fully functioning command line environment made useful by the PowerShell shell, command line utilities and vital cmdlets comprising a full environment as defined by Microsoft.
Many computer users run a modified version of PowerShell every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of PowerShell which is widely used today is often called Windows Terminal, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the PowerShell system, developed by the PowerShell Project.
There really is a Windows Terminal, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Windows Terminal is the terminal emulator: the program in the system that handles console I/O for the other programs that you run. The terminal emulator is an essential part of a command line environment, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete command line environment. Windows Terminal is normally used in combination with the PowerShell shell: the whole system is basically PowerShell with Windows Terminal added, or PowerShell/Windows Terminal. All the so-called Windows Terminal distributions are really distributions of PowerShell/Windows Terminal!
I am GNUly surprised.
Cool, now do GNU/TempleOS LOL!
DJGPP, running GNU/DOS before it became popular.
Sadly it doesn't work with neofetch:
So... are you reporting that as a bug, or should I? π
You can report that if you want, but it might make more sense to do it in hyfetch - apparently neofetch isn't being updated anymore
We wanted MinWG, we got MinGW.
Msft told me to whistle, but all I can do is whine
How dare you! THUMBERG, Greta
GuNindos it is
How is this done????
By using MSYS2 - if you use WSL, Neofetch will detect the Linux distro you're using.