When the people who invented Nazis are pissed about your Nazis, you’ve got a problem with Nazis.
Now we need to do the AfD next, bevor we have the next Nazis on our hands. And their populist propaganda is seeping in steadily, fueled by massive and endless hate campaigns from the BILD boulevard piece.
They are polling really really high in many states, top in some even, despite having absolutely no plans or desires to do any politics. All they can do is rage and yell about immigrants, current politicians, taxes, joblessness, the EU, laws, Ukraine, everything. And they also successfully did this thing where they are selling their idea that they are "for the people" and "the will of the people", yet the elected politicians they do have have consistently (and I mean it, not a single exeption) voted in favor of taxing the working class and making it easier for the ultra-rich. Surprise, surprise.
The same is happening in Sweden with the neo Nazi Sweden Democrats (disclaimer: they prefer being called "social conservatives" while simultaneously calling for the "deportation of asocial foreigners"). The only difference is, these ones have a plan, a really shitty one, and now by forming a bloc and becoming part of the government without any posts, they are effectively trying to apply each one of their weird proposals even though a number of them may require that they leave the EU. They think UK is doing a good job with immigration...
Whenever any nation wants to leave the EU, I immediately suspect they are up to a human rights violation.
Edit:typo
Lol, the UK are doing worse with immigration than before Brexit.
Some people really use any lies to make people support their outrageous claims like leaving the EU.
I wouldn't be surprised if Russia was helping behind the scenes with it, they want the EU to fail so they can conquer even more territories.
Russia know they can't fight NATO. So they make like-minded autocratic friends like Erdogan, Orban, Trump & try to soften NATO members' stance towards Russia. The hope is that some, if not all the major NATO member countries will self-radicalise & see nothing wrong with what Russia or China does. Clever & obviously working.
If something is worth doing it's worth doing yourself. Stop outsourcing your aggression to governments.
Eh, I am sadly not in a position where I can ban the AfD. I wish I were.
It's difficult to ban that kind of thing anyway. Ideas are hard to squash, especially ones born of a mix of ignorance and frustration.
They dont convince people of their Ideas though. All they do is ragebait populism. Their actual Ideas are just shitty fiscal conservativism with some vaguely racist and homophobic social policy. They are not selling the product they are convincing people to buy.
I don't know about that, German Nazis actually had teeth.
Most Nazis you see in the U.S. are poor white trash with meth mouth.
The main worry is how much damage they do before they're purged.
Most of the original nazis were poor white trash with whatever the cultural equivalent of meth mouth was at the time. Socioeconomic factors were a major motivation for WWII. When you're poor, you must be hypervigilant against the allure of fascism. Progress always has a human cost, but we can't recklessly commit to destruction in the name of token or thoughtless self enrichment.
EDIT: Meth Moth sounds like a Venture Bros villain. He's got no teeth, but he has the frantic energy of ten villains!
Most of the original nazis were poor white trash with whatever the cultural equivalent of meth mouth was at the time.
Let me guess, the related nazi group in the US is protected under at least ten amendments to continue being nazis.
Land of the freak
Can they please conduct raids here in the US too
Thanks
God imagine the heads exploding if an EU or UN force raided some hick compound.
Hopefully literally.
It's about time we stopped protecting Nazi politics under the rubric of 'free speech'.
The countries that don't do that still have freedom of expression (and they tend to have human rights protections even more expansive than ours), it's just that it makes no logical sense to hide nazis (whose politics amount to advocating against human rights for particular people) under the skirts of human rights protections.
Agreed.
It's like allowing ISIS to parade in the streets. Same terrorist ideologies.
The countries that don't do that still have freedom of expression (and they tend to have human rights protections even more expansive than ours), it's just that it makes no logical sense to hide nazis (whose politics amount to advocating against human rights for particular people) under the skirts of human rights protections.
The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually ceased or destroyed by the intolerant.
They want to silence and kill the majority of the population - stopping them from being able to do that by whatever means necessary is the pro-free speech move.
...also, stomping Nazis is fun - I recommend trying it.
I like to point to the tolerance paradox. If we want to be tolerant forever, there has to be a limit as to how tolerant we can be. And that anyone who preaches intolerance and hate deserves the gag order that comes their way. If you allow ethno-fascists to keep their platform, then you're effectively telling them that it's fine to be a violent asshat. It's not. And if they claim FrEeDoM oF sPeEcH, this does not come with freedom from criticism. I am under no obligation to engage constructively with your message, it's entirely within my right to at best for you, zone out and walk away, at best for me tell you to shut the fuck up and take your racist bullshit to some other place. Ideally some place where the sun don't shine.
Your freedom to randomly and violently flail your arms about ends where my face begins. As soon as your flailing your arms about starts to endanger people's faces, you should not be surprised that people start taking action to protect their faces. And on the other hand, if your face is being endangered by people flailing their arms about, it is your right to protect your face.
BERLIN (AP) — The German government on Tuesday banned the neo-Nazi group Hammerskins Germany and raided homes of dozens of its members.
During the early morning raids in 10 states, around 700 police officers searched homes of 28 group members.
“According to our findings so far, significant amounts of right-wing extremist devotional objects have been seized in addition to cash,” the minister said.
Ahead of the ban, the German federal and state governments cooperated intensively for more than a year, Faeser said, adding that “we also worked closely with our American partners.”
The purpose of the association Hammerskins Germany is to consolidate its right-wing extremist worldview, particularly through concerts where it tries to appeal to non-members to radicalize them, the ministry said.
“Right-wing extremism remains the greatest extremist threat to the basic democratic order in Germany,” Faeser told reporters in Berlin.
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When the people who invented Nazis are pissed about your Nazis, you’ve got a problem with Nazis.
Now we need to do the AfD next, bevor we have the next Nazis on our hands. And their populist propaganda is seeping in steadily, fueled by massive and endless hate campaigns from the BILD boulevard piece.
They are polling really really high in many states, top in some even, despite having absolutely no plans or desires to do any politics. All they can do is rage and yell about immigrants, current politicians, taxes, joblessness, the EU, laws, Ukraine, everything. And they also successfully did this thing where they are selling their idea that they are "for the people" and "the will of the people", yet the elected politicians they do have have consistently (and I mean it, not a single exeption) voted in favor of taxing the working class and making it easier for the ultra-rich. Surprise, surprise.
The same is happening in Sweden with the neo Nazi Sweden Democrats (disclaimer: they prefer being called "social conservatives" while simultaneously calling for the "deportation of asocial foreigners"). The only difference is, these ones have a plan, a really shitty one, and now by forming a bloc and becoming part of the government without any posts, they are effectively trying to apply each one of their weird proposals even though a number of them may require that they leave the EU. They think UK is doing a good job with immigration...
Whenever any nation wants to leave the EU, I immediately suspect they are up to a human rights violation.
Edit:typo
Lol, the UK are doing worse with immigration than before Brexit.
Some people really use any lies to make people support their outrageous claims like leaving the EU.
I wouldn't be surprised if Russia was helping behind the scenes with it, they want the EU to fail so they can conquer even more territories.
Russia know they can't fight NATO. So they make like-minded autocratic friends like Erdogan, Orban, Trump & try to soften NATO members' stance towards Russia. The hope is that some, if not all the major NATO member countries will self-radicalise & see nothing wrong with what Russia or China does. Clever & obviously working.
If something is worth doing it's worth doing yourself. Stop outsourcing your aggression to governments.
Eh, I am sadly not in a position where I can ban the AfD. I wish I were.
It's difficult to ban that kind of thing anyway. Ideas are hard to squash, especially ones born of a mix of ignorance and frustration.
They dont convince people of their Ideas though. All they do is ragebait populism. Their actual Ideas are just shitty fiscal conservativism with some vaguely racist and homophobic social policy. They are not selling the product they are convincing people to buy.
Holy shit, we are so fucked.
I don't know about that, German Nazis actually had teeth.
Most Nazis you see in the U.S. are poor white trash with meth mouth.
The main worry is how much damage they do before they're purged.
Most of the original nazis were poor white trash with whatever the cultural equivalent of meth mouth was at the time. Socioeconomic factors were a major motivation for WWII. When you're poor, you must be hypervigilant against the allure of fascism. Progress always has a human cost, but we can't recklessly commit to destruction in the name of token or thoughtless self enrichment.
EDIT: Meth Moth sounds like a Venture Bros villain. He's got no teeth, but he has the frantic energy of ten villains!
Turns out it was meth!
Let me guess, the related nazi group in the US is protected under at least ten amendments to continue being nazis.
Land of the freak
Can they please conduct raids here in the US too
Thanks
God imagine the heads exploding if an EU or UN force raided some hick compound.
Hopefully literally.
It's about time we stopped protecting Nazi politics under the rubric of 'free speech'.
The countries that don't do that still have freedom of expression (and they tend to have human rights protections even more expansive than ours), it's just that it makes no logical sense to hide nazis (whose politics amount to advocating against human rights for particular people) under the skirts of human rights protections.
Agreed.
It's like allowing ISIS to parade in the streets. Same terrorist ideologies.
The paradox of tolerance states that if a society is tolerant without limit, its ability to be tolerant is eventually ceased or destroyed by the intolerant.
They want to silence and kill the majority of the population - stopping them from being able to do that by whatever means necessary is the pro-free speech move.
...also, stomping Nazis is fun - I recommend trying it.
I like to point to the tolerance paradox. If we want to be tolerant forever, there has to be a limit as to how tolerant we can be. And that anyone who preaches intolerance and hate deserves the gag order that comes their way. If you allow ethno-fascists to keep their platform, then you're effectively telling them that it's fine to be a violent asshat. It's not. And if they claim FrEeDoM oF sPeEcH, this does not come with freedom from criticism. I am under no obligation to engage constructively with your message, it's entirely within my right to at best for you, zone out and walk away, at best for me tell you to shut the fuck up and take your racist bullshit to some other place. Ideally some place where the sun don't shine.
Your freedom to randomly and violently flail your arms about ends where my face begins. As soon as your flailing your arms about starts to endanger people's faces, you should not be surprised that people start taking action to protect their faces. And on the other hand, if your face is being endangered by people flailing their arms about, it is your right to protect your face.
Get every last one of these fuckers!
Good. No quarter for #fascists.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
BERLIN (AP) — The German government on Tuesday banned the neo-Nazi group Hammerskins Germany and raided homes of dozens of its members.
During the early morning raids in 10 states, around 700 police officers searched homes of 28 group members.
“According to our findings so far, significant amounts of right-wing extremist devotional objects have been seized in addition to cash,” the minister said.
Ahead of the ban, the German federal and state governments cooperated intensively for more than a year, Faeser said, adding that “we also worked closely with our American partners.”
The purpose of the association Hammerskins Germany is to consolidate its right-wing extremist worldview, particularly through concerts where it tries to appeal to non-members to radicalize them, the ministry said.
“Right-wing extremism remains the greatest extremist threat to the basic democratic order in Germany,” Faeser told reporters in Berlin.
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