18 people dead and suspect at large after shootings in area of Lewiston, Maine, authorities say

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22 people dead and suspect at large after shootings in area of Lewiston, Maine, authorities say | CNN
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They won’t address the mental health problems of this nation because it isn’t profitable to do so.

They won’t address the gun problem of this nation because of something a slaver jotted down 200+ years ago. And guns are profitable.

They won’t address mass shootings because then you wouldn’t be living in fear of them and would have time realize how they have ruined everything in the name of profits.

America is doomed for as long as we care about profit more than people

I would like to point out that Reagan dismantled funding for our mental health system and was responsible for the closing of many mental health treatment centers, and Republicans have (to my knowledge) voted against every effort to resurrect it.

They won't support restrictions on gun ownership because they say the problem is mental health, but they won't support spending on mental health either. (Most likely because they seem to oppose anything that would actually help people who suffer.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental\_Health\_Systems\_Act\_of\_1980

https://sociology.org/content/vol003.004/thomas.html

This last one is a ddg search - you can just pick which article you want to read about Republicans voting against mental health funding.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=republicans+vote+against+mental+health+funding

The Republican party really is a hollow shell occupied only by those willing to distract and harm the people rather than help them.

That’s the politicians and donors at least. They also have a lot of useful idiots.

They won't address the mental health problems because it's all part of a strategy to keep people scared.

Also for hospital systems it’s wildly unprofitable. You make your money in two places in medicine, elective surgeries and in the emergency department. Mental healthcare is slow, in the extreme cases you’re dealing with unpleasant patients that are hostile to the care you’re trying to provide, and you often have to house them and feed them for extended periods of time knowing they don’t have any money to reimburse you.

That’s why the hospital I’m working at has built a multimillion dollar cardiac surgery tower (not a unit, not a few floors, an entire tower), but scrapped the plans to rebuild the aging and woefully inadequate inpatient psych facility.

If we can’t squeeze every cent from you we will only do the bare minimum that the CMC requires from us.

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You could adress it, but it wont save the problem. Look at europe, we ban guns, we dont shoot people every day. We still have mental health problems.

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It's almost like guns aren't a good idea 🤔🤔🤔

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CNN that Card is a certified firearms instructor and a member of the US Army Reserve.

Yup sounds about right

Another Trump-loving America First terrorist.

His "liked" tweets include content published by Donald Trump Jnr., Tucker Carlson and Dinesh D'Souza. He also liked tweets by former House Speaker Kevin McCarthy and Jim Jordan, according to the screenshots.

Yup, but color me completely unsurprised like you because — guess what — the vast majority of all politically-motivated acts of violence including murders come from the right-wing side of the political spectrum. This isn't even a recent phenomenon; this extends throughout our history.

So don't tell anyone it's a BoTh SiDeS thing. These people are mentally-ill and so damn gullible when it comes to misinformation. They generally lack education and critical-thinking skills to distinguish truth from fiction. They are generally in positions of low self-esteem (e.g., incels) or socioeconomically struggling and thus they feel vindicated when they can believe in something bigger than themselves — or especially to blame someone other than themselves.

I heard they go by “America First” because it describes their terrorism hit list.

Felt like it had been a while since I read about a mass shooting in the USA.

Just because they don't report shootings under ten kills anymore does not mean they don't happen. But mass shootings, i.e. incidents where four or more people are killed) are still daily occurances in the US.

That definition is so ridiculous. Shoot 100 without killing a single one? That wasn't a mass shooting.

I would say that's a mass shooting, just not a mass killing

Yeah, but for media and the US government it isn't 🤷

It also doesn't happen. Because guns are so good at killing so easily. They should all be banned.

Now that would be newsworthy for being the most inept American gun owner.

Just because they don’t report shootings under ten kills anymore does not mean they don’t happen.

I never said or implied otherwise?

The last one was August 26th according to this wikipedia list, which is 60 days ago. But there were 2 in August 3 days apart, so... I guess it has been a while by comparison.

But only if you don't look at this other list on Wikipedia. This list has only 1 of a chosen set of sources who referred to it as a mass killing, the other lists mass killings where 2+ of their sources called it a mass killing. I wonder how long the 3+ sources list will be before it gets it own fork.

I remember a time when each would be the center of news for at least a week.

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The endless loop of people dying from mass shootings and nothing changes until people in power's family and children are effected. This is just terrible.

If anyone needs a recap on why guns laws are nearly impossible to enforce look no further than NYSRPA v. Bruen. Vox just wrote a pretty decent recap that is worth reading. https://www.vox.com/scotus/2023/10/24/23914235/supreme-court-domestic-violence-abusers-gun-policy-us-rahimi

Funny, though, that gun laws work everywhere else on the globe, just not in the US where the don't even try.

Oh yes, please explain to me how the US would go about changing the 2nd amendment right now given how the legal mechanisms for doing so work. It's basically impossible at the moment.

As if that was a new issue. The 2nd should have been repelled after the first mass shooting happened.

An amendment may be proposed by a two-thirds vote of both Houses of Congress, or, if two-thirds of the States request one, by a convention called for that purpose. The amendment must then be ratified by three-fourths of the State legislatures, or three-fourths of conventions called in each State for ratification.

Altering the constitution is an extremely tall order in today's US politics. It hasn't been done successfully in over 30 years and the one prior to that was over 50 years ago.

The Republicans can barely even vote in a house speaker right now when they have the required majority to do so. Good luck getting a change to the 2nd amendment through. It's just not going to happen.

Hence what I said, that should have been taken care of decades ago.

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Yeah, we have a ton of trouble with them in Europe.

Every other developed country in the world can do it, but yeah, totally impossible.

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Gun ownership is almost totally unregulated in Maine.

Way to go conservatives! Take a bow. Wow.. what is that now? How many hundreds/thousands of people have died because of your silence when it comes to the common sense gun laws you refuse to support?

At this post- one is left to only assume that you’re going for some kind of record in deaths on your hands, so….

Congratulations.