I’m not a huge fan of big social media, but if there is one thing I trust even less, it’s a banned person’s account of why they were banned.
I once won a million Robux from my dad, but when I tried to collect them while unrelatedly hiding under a blanket, he got mad and banned me from Roblox, his credit card, and later from talking to that helpful woman at his bank. Some bans are entirely unfair.
Wow so unfair. You found that credit card in his wallet while he was sleeping fair and square.
Thank goodness. Make sure to uninstall the app as well so it doesn't do any more spying on you.
Everything spys on us, not just tiktok. Yes, steps can be taken to lessen the spying, but in the end of the day we are just self censoring ourselves from other platforms.
Social media is here to stay and the masses use it as a way to get information/entertainment.
Making burner accounts are a thing, share information that goes against the status quo, I think that is admirable.
Only way people are exposed to certain viewpoints is by joining that bubble and going against the narrative.
In the end this gets complicated for various reasons, what do y'all suppose is the best course of action to go against the status quo?
TikTok is particularly problematic for a number of reasons.
Researchers showed that it collected images, videos, text history, contacts, etc. In fact, they noted that more of the program's software was used for spyware than actually running the app itself.
It's a military operation for a hostile foreign dictatorship.
TikTok also is not great for "expanding your bubble and seeing other viewpoints" because it's heavily monitored and filtered. Recently users reported getting permanently banned for speaking out about the ongoing Gaza Strip genocide, though TBH that was probably just the algorithm picking up on the word Genocide and shutting them down just in case they were talking about China.
Don't get me wrong, though! Fuck Google and Facebook/Meta, never give them any of your data either. But at least they wouldn't profit from the complete destruction of western civilization.
Just don’t give them access to your texts, contacts and photos? Like with any app that requests permissions it doesn’t need.
It's a big pile of spyware, you gain absolutely no benefit from it and it weakens our entire society to a huge external threat. The basic permissions are not enough to keep you safe while using that app, which is why it is banned by many countries for civilians or military personnel.
Before this comment gets downvoted
This is true, and it's not one or the other. We can try to do the best we can to protect our privacy and also improve it further (with new tools, practices etc.)
I would rather that good people don't completely abandon the platforms where so many people are. Both to share positive messages and promote good things, but also because good people deserve those social connections too.
I saw this page a while back and it's something we don't talk about enough in privacy discussions: https://www.socialcooling.com/
I also don't like when the only advice given is "uninstall and delete your account, you deserve it otherwise". We can do better
My advice for tiktok:
promote other platforms to people
see how much you can do from the mobile site (they limit it intentionally)
If you really have to install it, check out Shelter to sandbox the app away. It will still track a lot, but it will be somewhat boxed away
It would have had to been WAY more than Israel/Palestinian issues. Ive seen absolute shit tons of content condemning Israel and supporting Palestine and vice versa. with no filtering of content.
I’m guessing there was content calling for mass murder of one side or the other
There's Hebrew text in the first image that's about a POV of some sort.
Is the third video a literal Hamas video?
OP post the perfectly innocent vids that got you unjustly banned
Yeah, all centeralized social media is sus, I feel like fediverse is the only valid way forward.
You people don't even know what the videos were. Why are you immediately drawing conclusions?
These are your fellow fediverse users. Videos could be filled with pure hate, but that doesn't matter.
Because censorship is bad, that's why we're all here
Moderation is not censorship. For all we know those videos could show beheadings or call for genocide. TikTok has every right to remove that. Moreover, I think it's their obligation to remove it.
Fuck off and don’t speak for everyone. I’m here because Reddit destroyed third party APIs. I don’t give a fuck about your made up censorship temper tantrum.
Just try not being a bigot and magically, you won’t get your accounts banned and won’t be CeNsOrEd.
How am I making stuff up or being a bigot? I literally got suspended from Reddit for criticizing Israel killing 10,000 civilians.
If I remove a comment that tells someone to kill themselves, am I committing censorship?
It will be as long as it stays open and pure. If enough people come here, it will start drawing attention.
After that it’s possible they’ll flood it with ads and branding in whatever loophole backdoor way they can concoct.
Ad floods happen semi regularly.. they get banned fairly quickly though.
How about decentralization?
You're participating in it right now
Honestly I'm happy that I deleted my Reddit accounts, now all I have to do is stop using YouTube
I had a SecurityAwarenesse tiktok account and they just banned me for sharing "illegal content". My videos had more than 50.000 viewers...
Isn't TikTok run by a Chinese company? I wasn't aware they had a dog in this race, I'm surprised they care.
I'd actually consider it more likely that people would be banned for talking about Ukraine. China has invested interest through Russia in that war.
Actually, part of the deal that allowed TikTok to stay in the US required their US branch to have some US leadership. The leadership that was picked was mostly former intelligence agency people.
Lmao you can post about that in a million ways and with quite a few of them being ban worthy
I doubt thats the only video. My entire feed is 80% videos about israel committing war crimes, history of palestine, how israel is funded by the US for its interests in the middle east and to build a canal to no longer rely on egypt
This will do nothing to stop the idiots who will complain about this from using it. Need proof?
I’m not a huge fan of big social media, but if there is one thing I trust even less, it’s a banned person’s account of why they were banned.
I once won a million Robux from my dad, but when I tried to collect them while unrelatedly hiding under a blanket, he got mad and banned me from Roblox, his credit card, and later from talking to that helpful woman at his bank. Some bans are entirely unfair.
Wow so unfair. You found that credit card in his wallet while he was sleeping fair and square.
Thank goodness. Make sure to uninstall the app as well so it doesn't do any more spying on you.
Everything spys on us, not just tiktok. Yes, steps can be taken to lessen the spying, but in the end of the day we are just self censoring ourselves from other platforms.
Social media is here to stay and the masses use it as a way to get information/entertainment.
Making burner accounts are a thing, share information that goes against the status quo, I think that is admirable.
Only way people are exposed to certain viewpoints is by joining that bubble and going against the narrative.
In the end this gets complicated for various reasons, what do y'all suppose is the best course of action to go against the status quo?
TikTok is particularly problematic for a number of reasons.
Researchers showed that it collected images, videos, text history, contacts, etc. In fact, they noted that more of the program's software was used for spyware than actually running the app itself.
It's a military operation for a hostile foreign dictatorship.
TikTok also is not great for "expanding your bubble and seeing other viewpoints" because it's heavily monitored and filtered. Recently users reported getting permanently banned for speaking out about the ongoing Gaza Strip genocide, though TBH that was probably just the algorithm picking up on the word Genocide and shutting them down just in case they were talking about China.
Don't get me wrong, though! Fuck Google and Facebook/Meta, never give them any of your data either. But at least they wouldn't profit from the complete destruction of western civilization.
Just don’t give them access to your texts, contacts and photos? Like with any app that requests permissions it doesn’t need.
It's a big pile of spyware, you gain absolutely no benefit from it and it weakens our entire society to a huge external threat. The basic permissions are not enough to keep you safe while using that app, which is why it is banned by many countries for civilians or military personnel.
Before this comment gets downvoted
This is true, and it's not one or the other. We can try to do the best we can to protect our privacy and also improve it further (with new tools, practices etc.)
I would rather that good people don't completely abandon the platforms where so many people are. Both to share positive messages and promote good things, but also because good people deserve those social connections too.
I saw this page a while back and it's something we don't talk about enough in privacy discussions: https://www.socialcooling.com/
I also don't like when the only advice given is "uninstall and delete your account, you deserve it otherwise". We can do better
My advice for tiktok:
It would have had to been WAY more than Israel/Palestinian issues. Ive seen absolute shit tons of content condemning Israel and supporting Palestine and vice versa. with no filtering of content.
I’m guessing there was content calling for mass murder of one side or the other
There's Hebrew text in the first image that's about a POV of some sort.
Is the third video a literal Hamas video?
OP post the perfectly innocent vids that got you unjustly banned
Yeah, all centeralized social media is sus, I feel like fediverse is the only valid way forward.
You people don't even know what the videos were. Why are you immediately drawing conclusions?
These are your fellow fediverse users. Videos could be filled with pure hate, but that doesn't matter.
Because censorship is bad, that's why we're all here
Moderation is not censorship. For all we know those videos could show beheadings or call for genocide. TikTok has every right to remove that. Moreover, I think it's their obligation to remove it.
Fuck off and don’t speak for everyone. I’m here because Reddit destroyed third party APIs. I don’t give a fuck about your made up censorship temper tantrum.
Just try not being a bigot and magically, you won’t get your accounts banned and won’t be CeNsOrEd.
How am I making stuff up or being a bigot? I literally got suspended from Reddit for criticizing Israel killing 10,000 civilians.
If I remove a comment that tells someone to kill themselves, am I committing censorship?
It will be as long as it stays open and pure. If enough people come here, it will start drawing attention.
After that it’s possible they’ll flood it with ads and branding in whatever loophole backdoor way they can concoct.
Ad floods happen semi regularly.. they get banned fairly quickly though.
How about decentralization?
You're participating in it right now
Honestly I'm happy that I deleted my Reddit accounts, now all I have to do is stop using YouTube
I had a SecurityAwarenesse tiktok account and they just banned me for sharing "illegal content". My videos had more than 50.000 viewers...
Isn't TikTok run by a Chinese company? I wasn't aware they had a dog in this race, I'm surprised they care.
I'd actually consider it more likely that people would be banned for talking about Ukraine. China has invested interest through Russia in that war.
Actually, part of the deal that allowed TikTok to stay in the US required their US branch to have some US leadership. The leadership that was picked was mostly former intelligence agency people.
Lmao you can post about that in a million ways and with quite a few of them being ban worthy
I doubt thats the only video. My entire feed is 80% videos about israel committing war crimes, history of palestine, how israel is funded by the US for its interests in the middle east and to build a canal to no longer rely on egypt
This will do nothing to stop the idiots who will complain about this from using it. Need proof?
Just look at what YouTube is doing.
YouTube didn't