‘I wasn’t allowed to get the healthcare I needed’: the women suing Tennessee for being denied abortions

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‘I wasn’t allowed to get the healthcare I needed’: the women suing Tennessee for being denied abortions
theguardian.com

K Monica Kelly had to travel to Florida for an abortion after her fetus was diagnosed with trisomy 13 – now she’s part of a group suing her state

When K Monica Kelly saw that women in Texas had filed a lawsuit challenging the contours of their state’s abortion ban, she posted on Instagram to cheer them on.

“I shared how terrible I thought it was, that they weren’t able to get the proper healthcare they needed in their state,” Kelly said. “It never crossed my mind that that was actually going to happen to me soon.”

Kelly and her husband spent a year trying to have a second baby. So when they discovered in February 2023 that Kelly was pregnant, the couple was ecstatic. They taught their son, who was then two years old, to describe their family as: “Mama, dada, me, baby, all four!” After an ultrasound looked promising, and they drove more than 10 hours from their home in northern Tennessee to announce the news to their family in Florida.

Only days later, after they’d returned home, in late March, the pair drove back to Florida. This time, though, the drive was “surreal and devastating”, Kelly said. A series of catastrophic fetal diagnoses had led Kelly to decide to get an abortion – a procedure she could not legally get in Tennessee.

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Trisomy 13 babies only have a 5-10% chance of making it past their first birthday.

As god intended! /s

By all means, let's force people through the trauma of knowing their kid will only live at most 16-18 months and will probably bankrupt the family with medical bills.

The cruelty here is off the charts (as the gop intended).

It's such a double standard for the large majority of these people. It's God's will that a baby should be born to suffer and die, but it's not God's will that they die of a heart attack, diabetes, or a simple infection.

If they really believed in God's will, they wouldn't be seeking medical care at all, for they were destined to suffer and die as well.

It's despicable, what they are imposing on these families. If you believe in miracles, put yourself in the hands of your God and wait for one yourself, asshats.

If all the doctors leave Texas etc then they'll have to believe in God's will.

The unfortunate reality is that a lot of doctors are also narcissistic capitalists, they will stay in Texas due to the low tax rate.

Only way around it is to reduce the barrier to entry-aka cost-of medical training. It’s almost limited to just the wealthy, if you can’t drop $150k+ on school, you don’t have a good chance of being a doctor.

So you have lots of doctors who were born wealthy, never struggled, had their education bankrolled, then graduate and have a hyper inflated self worth.

Yeah, let's prolong the suffering of the parents (and the baby) and force them to watch their child either die an early death in front of them, or live on needing care for probably the rest of their lives. During that time the family's finances and mental fortitude will be strained to their utmost limits, likely destroying the marriage and family in the process. This is surely the life that God intended.

Don't forget the added stress of health insurance claims being denied and accumulating medical debt.

Thanks conservatives, making the world a little worse one day at a time

Let's not kid ourselves.

They'd make it worse two days at a time, if given the opportunity.

Tennessee responded with their own brief that read, "Yes, exactly. That is literally precisely what we were going for. Sue us!"

My home state once again proving America's push towards theocracy.

I think it is VERY IMPORTANT to point out:

Cleft Pallet DOES NOT EQUAL Trisomy 13

Also important, Trisomy 13 is terrible and Texas is wrong:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7282771/

ABSTRACT: The mean survival in Trisomy-13-syndrome patients is reported to be 130 days. We have diagnosed 21 cases of this syndrome in this institution (11 females and 10 males); 15 patients had regular trisomy 13 and 6 had translocation-trisomy 13 karyotypes. The mean survival of the 19 patients who died was 97.05 days; translocation patients survived longer than regular trisomy patients. The oldest living patients with trisomy 13 are a girl 19 and a boy 11 years old. Both are black, have regular trisomy 13 karyotypes and have had most of the manifestations of the syndrome. No mosaicism was detected in repeated cytogenetic studies. The 19-year-old patient is the oldest known living person with regular trisomy 13.

These are the moments when the excuses people make for Democrats at the Federal level just ring in my ears.

It shouldn't even be possible for a state to commit this kind of oppression toward a person, but it is, because over and over again we give Democrats power and they only really use it to get wealthier or help their golf buddies get wealthier.

…right it wasn’t the conservative Supreme Court that overturned Roe v Wade…

I know this is going to be hard for you to wrap your head around... but there are three branches of government.

I know.

Crazy.

This is like "is dating women gay?"

"Are oppressive laws passed by Republicans the Democrats fault?"

"Are oppressive laws passed by Republicans the Democrats fault?"

When they have the power to change it and don't?

Absolutely.

When have the Democrats had a 2/3 majority necessary to bring a Constitutional Amendment to vote?

Because that's the only legal path to over riding the Supreme Court's ruling.

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...but they don't have the power to change it? Mainly because people keep voting for Republicans come rain or shine, vote for Democrats when the syzzergy of planets is correct and the tea leaves are vibing and they didn't see a green car on voting day, and vote for a 3rd party literally never even if it would kill them not to.

And I say this as someone who desperately wishes the 3rd party option was half as good as the UK's options.

And I say this as someone who desperately wishes the 3rd party option was half as good as the UK's options.

You say this as someone who doesn't care about outcomes, because all you've seen for the last 40 years is gradual, but inevitable conservative outcomes, and you're going to pretend voting Democrat changes that anyway.

So what do you propose? Let the Republicans be in charge?

Really, really listen to what you're saying.

I propose we all vote for a third party instead.

I'm reading what you are saying. What you said is because Democrats have never the had power to make the changes you want, you will put Republicans in charge.

Democrats had the power and chose not to wield it. They love the Jim Crow Filibuster too much.

No, because I'm not a partisan who votes Republican or Democrat.

For me, voting records matter. That's why I vote third party. You're the one voting for party no matter what they do.

Democrats never had the power to do what you wanted them to do. So you enable Republicans to do worse.

I propose we all vote for a third party instead.

Uh huh...

Do you have any realistic suggestions?

So you want the Republicans to be in charge.

If you want any viable third party, you need to be pushing for election reform at the state/local level. I'd prefer the Star system, but even ranked choice would be better than FPTP. The system was designed to be difficult to change at the federal level, but easy to change at the local level.

So you want the Republicans to be in charge.

No. In fact, I've said otherwise several times in this thread.

Further, by voting for do-nothing Democrats, you're doing far more to help Republicans than I am.

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So Republicans voted in Trump who campaigned on overturning Roe V Wad. Trump then put conservative justices in to overturn Roe V Wade just like he promised

Republicans have a Senate Majority which is necessary to pass any laws. Republicans control the majority of states which would be necessary to pass a Constitutional amendment.

But it the Democrats that are at fault?

Democrats have a majority in the Senate. It's pretty telling that it's indistinguishable from a Republican majority to Democrats' apologists.

It's the Democrats' fault when they have the power to make change and don't, yes.

You sound like an abusive person with the "you made me hit you" excuse.

...the hell are you on about?

Take an ibuprofen before thinking on it too hard, friend.

I'm not the one performing mental gymnastics right now. I'll be fine. You, on the other hand...

Twice in the last 16 years the Democrats had the presidency and Congress. Under Obama, they had a supermajority.

There are no mental gymnastics here, just history and broken promises.

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