Not really a shitpost but I’m really enjoying lemmy

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Idk how to explain it and I imagine it’s been said plenty of times by now but it’s just, way easier to engage with posts here, usually on Reddit I’d just ignore the whole commenting aspect and just scroll through media.

I like this change, it reminds me of older social media platforms I used to use that were fairly small, player.me for instance.

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I honestly love Lemmy and the fediverse in general right now. Ever since I watched The Social Dillema or whatever on Netflix I hate doing anything on big tech social media. I feel like I'm being manipulated all the time and it makes me not wanna use the sites. But here, I just love reading everyone's post knowing that these are things I subscribed to see and is not some part of an algorithm to keep my attention as long as possible so the site can make money off of me

It’s been a very enjoyable experience, I’ve been bouncing about twitter and tumblr to try and fill that social media gap for a while now and I’m hoping this is it.

I was trying to use mastodon.social for a while, but it wasn't the same as reddit. I found kbin a few weeks ago, and it's everything i want it to be :)

Mastodon is the very Twitter like one right, I could never quite get used to that feeling

Yeah that social dilemma was a big eye opener. I stopped using Facebook after watching it. I would have deleted my account but my wife insists on using messenger for some odd reason.

I convinced my girlfriend to get telegram, not my preference but much better than anything Facebook related

Commenting here to remind myself to watch the social dilemma as my app doesn’t have a save feature.

Doesn’t having the same community in several instances fragment the user base though? I know I can join a community in any instance, but on Reddit you have one “gaming” subreddit, here you have a gaming community in every instance

There will emerge clear winners, I believe people will hoping the most popular communities.

But then what’s the point of having all those other redundant communities?

WIth federation, there's built in resiliency. If for whatever reason the instance hosting the largest memes community becomes unavailable (shuts down due to costs, defederated, etc.) we can just switch to a different memes community on another instance.

Plus this already was the case on reddit, you would often have the biggest mainstream sub for a hobby and then a dozen+ smaller, more specific ones. More choice is good imo, and because of how federation works it will never be hard to find the most popular version of a sub

I thought that initially as well, but consider when I search for "gaming" across the different instances I'd likely choose the largest community. Should something go awry with the hosting of that community (say, defedration from the other instances or it goes down) another will step up. It's really not so bad.

In my opinion and understanding, anyhow.

The same name community is federated across all instances. So I'm posting from lemm.ee but I can see /c/gaming on beehaw for example.

but on Reddit you have one “gaming” subreddit

I mean, you have r/gaming, r/games, r/pcgaming, whatever r/true or r/actual or r/real clones of those may have popped up and died over the years... One will eventually be "the" place, or at least all the smaller ones will all specialize on the kinds of content they want to see and go from there.

Lemmy has been giving me Old Internet Forum vibes so far and I love it. The shift towards centralized corporate homogeneity over the last 15ish years has been a horror show to watch and it feels like it's starting to crumble a bit, which I'm eager to see happen.

Just gonna sit back and watch twitter take itself out

You get it! I miss forums so much, but Lemmy scratches the itch so far. The internet used to be about individuality and now it seems to just turn people into what it wants.

Was thinking the same thing. On reddit commenting seemed daunting or something, here it's much easier to engage for some reason, long live lemmy!

9/10 times I’d go to comment something and realise it’d already been said or it was just hectic and I just wouldn’t and it got to the point I just never bothered anymore.

Yes, sorting Top/Hour helped, but I can do the same here and it still feels fresher, maybe because it's fewer people and so far seems to be all actual people, not bots.

Yeah seemed like there was always someone waiting round the corner to nitpick or find fault with something you said, kinda created a cagey vibe around actually taking part in the community imo

Well, akshually...

<insert 5000 word comment correcting your grammar, quoting and refuting every line, and building 20 straw men to set on fire...>

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Mum! I won another debating competition online!

I was on Reddit from maybe about 2008 until 2015ish. By the end I found that you couldn't really say anything on there that wasn't exactly what the orthodoxy was, or you'd just be downvoted to oblivion.

I don't think it was organic.

Oh 100%

It honestly feels like early Reddit and not like the echo chamber/shit show that Reddit is currently right now.

It's not a shitpost, but I'll allow it Here is my shitpost as tribute.

I was super sceptical about the whole fed thing, but now we have apps (Memmy!!) it’s exactly like Reddit more or less.

Yeah it’s really nice to know people will see and reply to your shit.

I’ve also noticed the filtering options seem better recently? Hot used to be shitty and active gave too much hours old stuff (but good to catch anything you missed)

Found this under hot, so I’m rewiring my consumption to sim my engagement to the newish posts here.

Shit rocks, fuxk that other place. Who needs em!

It’s kinda weird to have a social media platform be actually social, yknow what I mean lmao

I think there was a rollback or smth that was causing older posts to crop up and it seems that’s been fixed

I know right, perish the thought 🤣

Yeah hot and active were bugged but an update came out recently that fixed them

On Reddit, I often felt I was whispering in a crowded room. What’s the point of no one is likely to see it, read it, or engage? I think that’s one reason I’m more willing to engage on Lemmy.

I have made 3 comments on Lemmy these past few days. It isn't much; I'm mostly a lurker. But I'd average like 3 comments a year on Reddit so I'm doing pretty good myself.

Same for sure. Feels like anything I want to get involved in mean more here and won't get lost in bots or karma farming or whatever else.

I think there's more attempt by "lurkers" to actually post here. And a lot of those lurkers are suddenly like, whoa, I can comment on something and my voice is actually heard? People are reading this even though I didn't post to the thread in the first 20 seconds of it existing?

Having less users is a benefit for the most part (as long as there's enough content to keep it alive)

Lemmy is in a sweet spot that old early 2k forums had. Active enough to engage with people but small enough where it's not trashy and circle jerky.

People overestimate how many users you need to have a healthy community. As you say the forums of yore were quite small and worked perfectly fine.

I noted that on my social instance. 500 followers and 500 follows and I've got all the everything I need. Can't even track my timeline it flies by so fast sometimes

I think the big 3rd party app developers leaving Reddit and coming on here will be a huge boon. Most hardcore power users use the 3rd party apps once we have some great options it will be even better

Lemmy right now feels much more like traditional forums which is a good thing I think. Only time will tell if it actually stays like that or not long term.

This has been my general sense of it as well, and likely the reason why Tildes is also popular for those looking for a Reddit-alternative. They're quieter platforms allowing for a more engaging conversation between people of similar interests. I'm excited to see how this all shapes out.

Right now the prevailing Reddit migration path seems to be:

  • Do you want the cat pics and shitposts with the occasional discussion that may or may not get heated? if so, check out Lemmy
  • Do you want to read and write paragraphs of insightful comments about stuff with absolutely none of the fluff? If so, check out Tildes

The middle ground is checking in on both IMO. Also I guess squabbles or whatever also exist but I have no idea how well they're doing.

Exactly. This site feels like reddit when I joined it in 2013/4. I suppose I got accustomed to modern reddit, and that isn't all sunshine and rainbows!

Totally agree. Discussions are more engaging here, and posts are more relevant to their communities. You'll hear some people try to explain that this is just due to the smaller user base, and it'll quickly become less friendly as it gains more people... but I don't think so. For one, the lack of an overall "score" for each user (like Reddit's karma) means there is no value in creating re-posting bots that try to capture the maximum number of upvotes by copying older successful material. Less bots posting old content means more real people posting current ideas.

That does make sense, I do miss discussion bots for like shows and such but I’ve seen people do it manually and it’s better than nothing

I imagine Lemmy right now is very similar to how Reddit was back before it became “mainstream”. Small communities with meaningful engagement.

I agree. Seems more civilized and welcoming. At least that’s what I feel at the moment.

I have not been on reddit for the past 3 days. I try my best to not visit the site when it comes up in search results, I either use web archive or google cached results to find what I’m looking for.

Full time lemmy user!

I think it has to do with the user base here. We are mostly sane people unlike Reddit.

Plus it's a very small community compared to Reddit. 10000 users vs 10000000 is a big difference.

I am new to the platform as well and have found all server instances to be equally welcoming!

I've probably commented here today more than I did in a year on Reddit. Though I was mostly a lurker even when I started using it a decade ago.

Nice to not lurk every now and then

Holy shit Player.me wasn't just a fever dream

Every now and then I remember it and it’s just a wave of nostalgia, I had such a basic handle there. Thatrandom_guy_ I think lmao

I've also noticed that the website runs way smoother than reddit ever did for me which is a big plus

This is fun, it’s new, and feels like we’re in on the ground level