A pizza flavored Hot Pocket is just a calzone...

Cocodapuf@lemmy.world to Showerthoughts@lemmy.world – 85 points –

A pizza flavored Hot Pocket is just a calzone...

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"Hot Pockets are the American empanada."
— Wendy Watson

Stromboli actually. Strombolis have pizza sauce like the pockets, calzones require ricotta and no sauce (you dip em in marinara).

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No, its definitely not. A Calzone isn't what ever hot pockets are made of.

Calzones aren't supposed to have sauce inside though

Every calzone I've ever eaten has had sauce. And I only buy the really high quality authentic ones from Sbarro.

I was mid sip and reading Sbarro nearly sent a load of drink up my nose 😂

Sometimes I crave a true, authentic, Italian dish with the right cheeses, traditional sauces, and love cooked right into the pasta. Other times, I go to the Olive Garden

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You're probably thinking of a stromboli.

You're thinking of a pizza roll

Probably.

Honestly it's so weird. I've been all over and have seen a lot of calzones with sauce inside, and I've seen most strombolis without sauce but with ricotta. But it's still a gamble unless their menu specifically says how they make it.

I prefer the sauce on the side, so I usually get a stromboli, ask for a container of sauce, and roll the dice unless it's a place I know.

Like all exported recipes, it's regional. It's like how American pizza is quite different from Italy. But true pizza isn't the #1 food in the world, now is it? I mean American pizza probably isn't either when other cuisines win by shear population by who's counting

I'll say it, American pizza is the #1 food in the world. As chosen by me, an American

Never been there but I could bet pizza in new york is pretty serious

Let us take to the experts.

https://www.foodnetwork.com/how-to/packages/food-network-essentials/calzone-vs-stromboli

Fillings

Calzones and stromboli share several the same fillings, including cured meats and veggies. And while both have Italian cheese, calzones are made with ricotta (often alongside mozzarella and/or Parmesan) while stromboli are typically only made with mozzarella. Calzones’ fillings do not include sauce; marinara is served on the side for dipping. Stromboli portions can also be dipped, but they can also be baked with the sauce inside.

This source also specifies strombolis are a different shape, and tbh at one time that was true, but I think that practice has mostly died out and the shape of the two is now often "the same" but dependant on location. The sauce v ricotta situation however is nonnegotiable and places that swap them are wrong.

Source: Food Network and also am retired 10+yr pizza veteran, multiple shops.

Your thinking of a dish that is toppings on top of cheese red sauce and bread.

Please start a battle with Wikipedia editors over the tomato sauce calzone in this article.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calzone

.... Did you read your own link or no? It says "some places put sauce on top right before serving" which is what's pictured

I’m referring to the picture, which has sauce. Which I thought was funny.

Fair, it is a very saucy calzone that definitely looks like some sauce is inside, though it may just be diced tomato under a sauce glop

We’re going to have to call in the calzone forensics team to do some splatter analysis on that interior sauce.

Wait, really? My world is shaken

Lol it's regional and always fun to stir shit up and make people argue their locally-adjusted version of an imported recipe is correct. Most places do not put sauce inside though and many don't even serve the sauce

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A calzone doesn't have tomatoe sauce in it. Also this is a terrible insult to calzones everywhere.

Wikipedia wants to fight you over that statement

This looks like it has sauce ON it. Like a calzone.

If it is the same as a calzone, but has sauce IN it, then its not a calzone, its a stromboli.

I've never has a Calzone without red sauce and cheese.

A great combination, but if the red sauce was inside the calzone, that means you've never had a calzone. You have had strombolis.

Maybe you haven't had a Calzone in the US....

I live in the US.

I have had Calzones in the US. I have had Strombolis in the US.

I have made Calzones myself. I have made Strombolis myself.

I will say though, when someone serves me a Stromboli and calls it a Calzone, it is almost always a shit Stromboli.

To add: calzone necessitates ricotta.

My "from scratch" cooking journey started with hand mixed pizza dough, whole milk transmuted into ricotta, fresh veg... store bought mozzarella and a marinara made from canned tomatoes and dried seasonings.

Made calzones/strombolis once a week for months.

Highly recommend it.

High levels of "from scratch" pride, overall simple, super interesting and educating, and mid-low difficulty level, once you have a pizza stone and know how to use corn meal correctly.

Says who?!

You take your meaty red sauce you made from scratch and you put it in a pizza crust with some toppings.