Open source in books at school in India

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So glad I'm finally able to What is Krita?.

Free and Open Source image editor, sort of worse than Photoshop but with enough learning and effort you can get the same jobs done with both

Why "Worse"?

Krita it's meant to serve as an alternative to Photoshop(In the Digital Painting), Paint Tool Sai and Clip Studio Paint, it has one special function for those with Shaky Hands when drawing in a Graphic Tablet.

Honestly i beleive it's a great program, and doesn't suffer the same issues as Photoshop.

Just personal experience, I guess. Photoshop felt really easy to learn and I never had any issues finding a tool that suited my needs. What I'm saying is that it's less intuitive, not that it sucks or anything lol. Neither program ever failed to do anything I needed it to, I just found myself having to use Google a lot more with Krita.

I also remember having some issues with transparency and saving a file for a crosshair in Half-Life, and that was the only major headache I had with it. There's a lot of terms and options I didn't understand, and I didn't know what to change to make it save the file as it was when I loaded it. But back when I still had Photoshop, it just worked without futzing with any settings.

Our textbooks (in Ukraine) used to include stuff on both windows and linux (specifically, linux mint with cinnamon), and included a chapter on libreoffice/openoffice

Gimp is better suited for this role

Krita is a art focused program

You also cannot add information to blurted blurred pictures, you can only approximate

Gen-Z Indian here. It's for school kids, and they're going to be drawing gibberish anyway. Attendance is how they grade. Back then, we used to play around with Paint on Windows XP. Good thing they're getting exposure to open-source early.

Take 2 people that have not used gimp or krita. Ask them to daw a circle, and see which software they are able to do it in.

Gimp is a ux nightmare (or at least it used to be i haven't used ot in years) I will try gimp 3 when it comes out in 2037

GIMP 3.0 will be released this year, as far as I remember. (I already using the final test version for 3.0).

As someone coming from Photoshop it's really hard to get into Gimp with it missing the layer effects you'd expect, which you all have in Krita.

Krita is aimed for Digital Painting, not Photo Manipulation, Photi Manipulation it's GIMP's work.

I use Krita as an image editor and I prefer it.

Gimp is an UI nightmare, I don't recommend it to anyone. Krita can't be worse.

Honestly i don't see the problem, i've been using GIMp since around 2013 or 2015, i never had issues with the UI

Very strange presentation of Krita, but I'll take it. The overview of what you'll be able to do doesn't actually list anything you can do, and the comic recommends using it to deblur photographs, which is definitely not something I would recommend Krita for.

Or indeed something that is really possible with anything. If it's blurry it's broken. Learn your camera settings and take another.

There's some surprisingly sci-fi stuff that's possible with image deconvolution. Not exactly practical, but it is possible to recover some information from a blurry photo.

Yeah, I'll wager computer generated blur is easier to undo than real physics generated blur.

There was that Canadian a few years ago who used a swirly blur on a picture of him raping kids, and the German police reversed it and had him locked up.

I mean, you're not wrong - but it's a technique used every day for super-resolution microscopy.

I’m surprised that open source technology isn’t used at American universities. My local university only has proprietary software which I guess makes sense because of industry standards, but the reality is learning on open source will be more beneficial in the long run.

I'm not. Universities aren't places of open or free learning. They're deeply invested in capitalism and benefit greatly from intellectual property laws. In fact, most universities function largely as state subsidized pipelines that take people without a viable, real world skill set and turn them into people who still don't have a viable real world skill set, but who do have a piece of paper telling corporations that they're able and willing to put up with complete bullshit, general mistreatment, and dull, grueling labor for years without incident. Which is good enough for your typical middle-class wage slave and whatever they might want to do.

And to think that’s what my fucking taxes are paying for. Anticompetitive lock in baked into a churn and burn the proletariat pie

Why show young bright minds free options when you can get more money from them for the rest of their lives with subscription software

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It's unfortunate how many replys are missing the good part of this and rather respond with criticism and negativity. We can do better than that folks. This is a good thing!

I like seeing the Krita suggestion, but to just call it “open-source” with no clarification on that means would lead me to believe kids would skip over the hyphenated adjective without realizing it is often the key to finding other good, open-source software (e.g. a “open-source alternative to Reddit” query should lead one to Lemmy). I’m hoping it has a section or callout or even a vocab word on another page but I’m skeptical.

(This is putting aside my quarrels with OSI, FSF, SPDX for the larger picture)

Considering Linux have 15% marketshare in India, I'm pretty sure the curriculum already cover what open source is.

Not sure about this particular textbook, but ours did explain what open-source is. So I'm guessing it might have been covered in a previous chapter.

I read that in the most posh British accent possible.

Edit: IDK why the downvotes, really

I will never get over people using software as a countable noun. You mean a software program or a software application, not a software

"They downvoted him because he spoke the truth."

One fish, two fish. Red fish, blue fish.

One software, two softwares. One literature, two literatures. One Lego, two Legos. One butter, two butters. One snow, two snows.

Oh hey, I had some good results with Krita when I was still making digital art way back when. It's been like a decade. I should get myself a new tablet.

Are there any school textbooks out there that have poeple in them that don't look creepy?

Promoting colorism in a lesson about software that can be used to edit colors is... A strategy.

Idk maybe I just need to go meet more Indian people but none of the Indian people I've met to date look anything like Ronit and Sirahi here.

Ever meet Northeast Indian? Indian people skin tone is incredibly diverse.

Why tf would that be in english doesn't India have enough own languages? I hate colonialism and how it destroys culture

India has too many languages and cannot agree on one in common, which is why English is a "neutral" compromise. I understand that making Hindi the national language is a common Hindu Nationalist point.

The problem is that India has many local languages. So you need one language, equally foreign to everyone (so no one has an unfair advantage) for things like federal laws, national-level competitive exams and inter-state communication (each state is, in theory, composed of the people speaking one language). English conveniently fits that bill.

We almost had civil war in the 1960s over this. The compromise was that (1) India has no national language, (2) all federal documents would be in both English and Hindi (the biggest Indian language) and (3) all schools must teach any three languages, including English.

Open Source, in the USA at least, is a result of software developers not being protected to unionize under the NLRB.

Status, seniority, and respect are thus retrieved from the returns on self-employed slave labor.

As a software dev and open source contributor: stay the course, then! I'll take open source software over a union 10 times out of 10. I get paid so well for what I do that it's silly, and I love spending my time doing the stuff I like. I've been a union member in other fields, it's not an experience I'd like to repeat.

I seriously doubt anybody is contributing to open source for status & seniority. Respect, maybe. The status & seniority people become managers; as the old joke goes, that's the best way to get them out of the workforce.