Millennials are exhausted by working more for less.

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Millennials are exhausted by working more for less | Letters
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Advocate for the 32 hour work week with no drop in pay. Join unions, create unions, call your representatives (and I know most of them are shit).

Convince your peers to advocate for 32 hours as well. There's no reason why most jobs couldn't do that. You'd be astounded at the amount of time wasting that goes on in the defense industry work I do.

I'm a union worker. This year at our union BBQ, the premiere of our province showed up to the Union BBQ. He's a conservative, staunchly anti union, anti worker and pro corporations. I was dismayed that not only was he allowed to attend, but at the amount of my fellow Union members shaking his hand and cheering him. The dude literally wants you to be a wage slave why are you cheering him??

Join unions, create unions

What if we're in one of the sad states that has 'right to work' laws?

For those unaware, 'right to work' laws at exactly the opposite of how they sound. They outlaw (or at least restrict) union presence in their state, you know, so employers don't have to deal with unions and can therefore do what they want with their labor force.

We can have 32 hour workweeks at my job… if we choose to give up pay on Fridays. True story. 😭

If less is being built, how will this help you to have less spending power?

Studies have shown that total productivity goes up if we work eight less hours. Those last eight hours lower economic output.

Most jobs no it doesn't. Everyone would be doing it and splitting the difference if it did. Good luck with that one.

You'd be surprised how long people will keep doing dumb shit just because it's the way it was always done. Here's the pilot program, FYI

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/21/1158507132/uk-study-companies-four-day-workweek

It would be done in a second if there was value to it. Especially large companies as often there are bonuses based on profits. Or do you actually think directors and CEOs would rather make less personal income?

It is goofy that people actually think productivity would remain the same when working far less hours and believe the same number of houses (or insert any product here) would be built. Or that a pilot test would remain accurate if the people involved in it did not know it was a simple experiment. Tell me if those companies that experienced more productivity, why did they not continue to implement it?

Tell me if those companies that experienced more productivity, why did they not continue to implement it?

they did. 80% of them did exactly that!

it works exactly as expected, and the companies that did switch to a 32h-week model did see increased productivity, and 80% chose to keep the 32h-week model.

read the study.

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More like - EVERYONE is.

Everyone who isn't well-off that is.

Everyone who isn’t well-off that is.

Which is practically everyone.

I don't know about you but I'm in the top 49%. Just a couple more loot boxes and pay-to-win character enhancements and I'm probably gonna crack top 45%!

...and increasing, as regulatory capture (especially failure to enforce anti-trust law) allows big corporations to continue hollowing out the middle class.

And, the definition of well-off is a moving target. $150k a year now is the equivalent of $80k ish a year in 2000. That was a middle-class income then, but $100k+ now is seen as well-off by a lot of people.

It's more well-off than many, but it isn't what well-off used to mean. Outside of the super rich, everyone now gets fucked in their own way.

80k a year is like double what I make, how is that low?

$150k a year now is the equivalent of $80k ish a year in 2000.

The point is the change in buying power. $80k per year now is equivalent to $45k per year in 2000.

To make what would have been $80k per year in 2000, you would need to make $150k per year now.

But in 2000, it is also very likely you could have bought a house on that salary of $80k per year. The equivalent $150k per year now may not even do that, depending on your state. In some sense, to be "well-off" (which is poorly defined, but let's say: enough to comfortably afford a home) is likely more around $200k per year now. The baseline has changed, so even though $100k may sound like a lot, it isn't what "six figures" used to mean in the context of salary. It is the equivalent baseline of about $50k per year in 2000.

DON'T FORGET BUYING LESS FOR MORE MONEY!

The economy really is doing great and these monopolistic companies are enriching themselves on this fact. They supply us with everyday necessities and are choking us out simply because they fucking can. They own everything, it's all price collusion, just like the apartment and housing prices in this country (Canada too).

FUCK THESE LATE STAGE CAPITALISTS SQUEEZING THE LIFE OUT OF US

Squeezing the life out of the goddamn planet at the same time.

It’s whether the fight is worth it. That’s what’s been getting me. Knowing that there will be battles. Bad days and bad years. Bad people you’ll have to manage or manoeuvre around. Just waiting and being on the scene or networking looking for the lucky break to drop. For what? Really? And what are the chances that it won’t go far and that you’ll know it’s not insignificantly attributable to that lucky break just not dropping for you. Which is fine, that’s the way of the world, as well as the difficulty of labour. But why the battles then and the tolerance of shitty people in positions of power and the sycophancy networking? What for?!

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This is the best summary I could come up with:


Living with parents isn’t ideal, but a part-time barista job in a cosy market town, with not a single work email boring into my soul every hour of the day and night, feels much more conducive to my wellbeing.

Millennials have been handed an untenable position, with adversaries citing avocado toast and a poor work ethic as symptoms of a failing generation.

Twice I have been hidden homeless while working at full capacity; and my last landlord was legally allowed to raise rents from £600 a head to £900, with no maintenance or material changes to the property.

Charles Bukowski wrote his novel Post Office in 1971, which detailed his morning job as a mail carrier that allowed him the freedom to write, drink and bet on the horses for the rest of the day.

For those of us who didn’t have all the advantages listed in this article, the option of leaving a hated job and going back to live in mum and dad’s beautiful home was not there.

What saddens me about this account of millennials is that it appeared to present a choice between working hard for money and power or opting out to please yourself – and not so much about finding what was truly meaningful and making a worthwhile contribution to the community.


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Reading about rent increases boils my blood, the ultimate example of getting money because you had money to begin with. Not talent, or production, or anything like that, just had money, get money.

Rent seeking mindset I call it — too many people and companies seeking to press others to extract their money rather than providing tangible value to society, and it’s not generally millennials doing it. It’s the disgusting underbelly of the entrepreneurial mindset the many of the past used to frame capitalism.

Rent-seeking is essentially the core goal of capitalism.

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Its not just housing. In the last 20 years life has become much more expensive. Car insurance is 5x, house insurance is 3x, the $20/family house phone is now a $40/person cell phone, ...

I get a little tired of the anti-landlord rants. People want for the to be no rentals?

People want housing to be affordable, and not a profit scheme run by hedge funds to squeeze the last bit of dignity out of society by raising rents and purchase prices based on bullshit numbers they've made up with zero factual basis for cost as justification.

Pretty much nowhere in the US can you afford to be in an actual house as a renter even without making double minimum wage. 78% of the US is living paycheck to paycheck, so how in the hell are they going to afford deposits + rent, insurance, moving costs...etc. Get informed.

Profit scheme run by hedge funds? I'm not sure what that has to do with landlords.

If someone owns a home that they aren't currently living in, what do you propose they do with it? They should take a loss and let you live there cheaply because your job doesn't pay enough? I don't remember any time when minimum wage (or even twice that) was enough to buy a home.

I get a little tired of the anti-landlord rants. People want for the to be no rentals?

People aren't generally mad at the concept of rental property. They just want things like rent control or more zoning for more cheap multifamily residential buildings. The reason why people are upset at landlords specifically is because they are the ones who vote these against these policies because it would theoretically lower their property value.

It's because of inflation and you can blame that squarely on your fucking corrupt governments all over the world.The only way to avoid this is to opt out of their fiat money printing system and buy gold or some sort of crypto.