lemmy.world and .ml down

aranym@lemmy.name to Chat@beehaw.org – 133 points –

Heard it was DDoS attacks, which seems pretty likely. Another benefit to using a smaller instance (or hosting your own), you don't have to worry about this stuff

Hopefully they don't try to mess with Beehaw, y'all are too nice :)

72

Even more of a reason to

1 - have an account on multiple instances

2 - support multiple instances. Can't take everyone down at once!

First account: vlemmy.net - went down 2 days later Second account: lemmy.world - has been DDOSed twice and hacked once the week after making the account Third account: this one.

Which instance do you want me to tank next? Apparently I’m pretty good at it!

Do lemmygrad

Do I have to touch it :(

It seems like you're expressing something about Lemmygrad that isn't enthusiastic and unconditional endorsement. Clearly you are a reactionary alt-right racist Nazi, and probably (definitely) a CIA plant.

Call me a CIActi, because I am dry and prickly and dependent on government funds to survive.

lemm.ee! The lead admin is top notch, he contributes directly to the lemmy codebase and implements his working mods there before they get accepted. He was also one of the key helpers in the first lemmy.world hack (which incidentally lemm.ee was immune to).

I don’t think it’s in anyone’s best interests to encourage mass users to any single instance. That “everybody get in this same room” behavior is part of the problem.

Lemmy and the fediverse depend upon users distributing themselves across many reliable instances. More users in a single instance equals more demand on that individual server and more vulnerability based on that single server’s status.

While I agree with that, lemm.ee doesn't seem to be dominating much. It isn't even top 3 - the top 4 in my understanding is lemmy.ml, lemmy.world, beehaw.org and sh.itjust.works (in the order they fell out my brain). So I don't feel guilty cheerleading for it, at least not right now.

However in terms of user experience, lemm.ee has been by far the most reliable for me. Afaik it was the first to have a truly stable version of v0.18 (he didn't upgrade right away, but implemented a modified version of a release candidate of v0.18.1).

Not as extreme. But similar experience. Joined beehaw, then they defederated from some of the main instances I subbed.

Joined another one and it had a 2 day outage.

Just built my own and use the other accounts for specific stuff (ie: beehaw is dedicated to subs only in that instance now. )

Lemmy.zip has been pretty boss. The admin is pretty transparent about the server and everyone the so far seem like reasonable folks.

can't down everyone at once

Well not until the next catastrophic federation bug gets discovered and abused 💀

Federation will prevail! 🖖

A communications disruption can mean only one thing: invasion.

I get this movie reference. We need a baseball bat and a glass of water!

Could this be related to that massive hacking attack from earlier, where a lot of the big instanes were hacked?

I don’t know man, I was just using a Star Wars quote for shits and giggles.

The vulnerability behind that was patched so it seems unlikely.

Are we also getting DDoSd? I'm getting constant timeouts and json errors here over the last one hour or so.

Beehaw was also down for me. Ended up opening a new account on Lemmy.ca since Beehaw seems to be taken down so often :(

The weird ones are the every hour on the hour outages. It seems like there's some scheduled task on Beehaw's server that's restarting lemmy

Yeah, it's kind of annoying. I really like Beehaw but it sucks to get connection errors regularly

1 more...

Large instances need to get Cloudflare DDoS protection because it will only get worse.

This does wonders at keeping the instance up, but breaks the mobile apps and federation functionality sadly ☹️

My instance is using Cloudflare and has no issues with federation or mobile apps (I sent this reply with Connect). Those services should not break under Cloudflare.

Sorry I should have been clearer in my original comment - the DDoS mitigation features of Cloudflare specifically affect the apps and federation, so as long as you aren't under attack it's business as usual

Ah fair enough, I think most would be fine with that compromise tbh

Oh Damn. So the community still needs to figure it out...

But you can still DDoS with federation. I'm not sure how we'd avoid breaking the idea that anyone can make a server and start federating immediately. Federation naturally is an automated task, so can't get past this protection.

Lemmy.ml became totally unreachable 15 minutes before Lemmy.world went all "Error" page. Distant Early Warning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrDj5XvZXX4

Lol I was just watching some Rush videos last night, and this was one of them. Love that song.

Such a good song, and ironically I can't play the video from Canada, "The uploader has not made this video available in your country".

Can’t watch a Rush video in Canada? I’m pretty sure there’s a law against that.

Hello small instance friends :)

One thing I like about lemmy and the fediverse-

I honestly wouldn't know those instances were down, if it was not for people posting about it, lol.

I hope lemmy.world comes back.

Why wouldn’t it?

Two sites went down. I'm hoping for one to come back up. Read between the lines.

It is sort of responding now, slow, but better than it was 15 minutes ago.

I always access from a smaller instance. I didn't even notice I was looking at older content.

Beehaw was having a lot of 502s over the last few days. Not sure if DDoS or something else, though.

Love that I can hop over to kbin (or vice versa) when this stuff happens.

i bet there's a lot of people are regretting deleting their reddit accounts lmfao

Why?

There are over a thousand lemmy instances. Two of them are being DDOSed. The rest are more or less fine.

That's part of the beauty of the fediverse. You're not locked in to anything. If one instance goes down, you can just access it through another.

I would think that the most notable thing that will come out of today is a spike in new accounts at a bunch of other instances. The fediverse as a whole will just keep chugging along.

You don't even need an account if you just want to browse.

Yeesh lmfao'ing in every post, maybe book a visit with a proctologist.

ha, i went to check wefwef app when i woke up, updated it like ok that was why. no content after. realizing I'm enjoying the lemmy/kbin stuff now and would be sad without it. i try to browse reddit but I don't want to waste my time there. I enjoy being a part of these cutting edge projects.

The time of lemmy named domains is over and the reign of Feddit has begun!

Normally I check lemmy.ml when lemmy.world is down. It was fine in the attack that also took down lemmy.blahaj.zone, so I guess I thought it was more secure because it is The Tech Instance. I'm sad it let me down this time lol