Because you want to support specific content creators and free isn't sustainable
Yeah, but for porn tho…
Just beat your meat to standard stuff or meet someone IRL, rather than developing some unhealthy attachment to someone on OF who’s exploiting your desperation.
I dunno, I guess if you just wanna pay for porn you like then it’s fine, but some people develop very unhealthy attachments/obsessions to supplement a real human connection.
It's no different than subscribing to twitch/YouTube creators. The content is just different. There are plenty of people with unhealthy obsessions that aren't related to porn.
You’re right, it’s the same as the lonely people being exploited by Twitch streamers or YT creators.
There’s a point it goes from “supporting a creator” to “throwing money at someone so they acknowledge your existence and you feel validated”.
Honestly part of the reason I stopped watching twitch, it’s just sad at a certain point as these people think they’re actually friends with the creator, rather than just enjoying the stream for what it is.
The whole donation/sub part of twitch culture is disgusting imo.
A better example would have been patreon. I’ve never given money to an online content producer of any kind (except my monthly donation to Wikipedia), but if there’s one thing the internet is good at, it’s crowdfunding. Gofundme, patreon, onlyfans, twitch, kickstarter… it’s all the same.
True, but I think the key difference is that one is an exchange of services, and the other is taking advantage of peoples desperation for a connection, whether that be a romantic connection or just friendship.
Satisfying physical urges with porn or supporting a twitch streamer you like is one thing, but these fake relationships between viewers and OF or twitch creators is wrong imo.
I feel like you're way off mark on this.
I subbed to a chick on Onlyfans because she's my type and I jerked off to her videos.
I would wager 95% + of the audience is just that, and not the "unhealthily obsessed" type that you are so hung up on.
So what you're saying is sex workers aren't real workers and don't deserve to be paid. If that becomes true and no one pays for porn, GUESS WHAT: no more porn. It has to be profitable for the people doing it. It's not like art, the vast, vast majority aren't doing it because they love it. They're doing it for money.
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Nah, even if nobody paid for porn there would still be porn. In fact, there's already enough porn already made out there that we have enough to last us for centuries. But even disregarding what's already out there, people would still make porn for free because they want to show off and share their videos.
Could you imagine if porn stopped being produced in the ‘70’s and all we had to jerk off to was huge muffs (huge fan of muffs by the way (it’s mostly a texture thing))and blue eyeliner up to their eyebrows?
the vast, vast majority
Not to disagree with your main point - everyone deserves to be paid - but porn scales so well that we might already have enough free amateur production for everyone. It just doesn't get to the top of SEO-optimized searches.
we might already have enough free amateur production for everyone. I
You've seen significant amounts of porn produced and distributed that was made for fun and not monetized? I certainly haven't.
And if that were true, why would people still be paying for it now?
There's a parasocial aspect to onlyfans since you can dm the person, and they often take requests.
You've seen significant amounts of porn produced and distributed that was made for fun and not monetized? I certainly haven't.
I have. You just need to search a bit harder... I guess 🤷... I've even got them bookmarked, they release regularly.
Porn and OF are essentially two separate things though.
Sex workers do work and they should be paid for it, because it’s just work. OF creators often exploit desperate peoples’ emotions to take their money.
People watch porn to beat their meat and satisfy a physical urge, whereas a lot of people subscribe to OF for a fake connection that only worsens and warps their view of a healthy relationship.
If you wanna pay for Brazzers then go for it, if you’re simping for an OF creator who’s happy to just take your money then that’s sad.
How is porn the same as being with a real live human being 🤨? Sure, I can understand (up to a point... I wouldn't do it) paying for sex, but for porn 🤨... I mean, even if I did really liked something about this specific girl, nah, I wouldn't pay. She's basically selling something that hundreds of people will buy, not just me. And even if it was just me, that's not an IRL experience. I MIGHT pay for a real world sexual experience (very unlikely though), but for a fake one? No way!
Porn creators also need money to live, no?
I think you're really overthinking it. I'd say the vast majority of people paying simply came across something they wanted to see, and paying for it is faster and easier (and safer) than trying to search it out for free.
You can get a personal performance and it can be healthy. They ain't mutually exclusive, especially around niches where content isn't just reposted on every site.
I am definitely not like others, I have only paid like 3 times on OF and they were like $5 each. Sometimes you just really want to see what that person looks like. 99% of the time I don't care and free is cool. Never got exploited, or had an unhealthy attachment.
Porn was around long before OF and OF isn't why porn is still around.
OF isn't the only way people pay for porn
So basically, you like paying for porn, is that it? Or maybe that specific girl/guy? Or couple?
"I still don't get why people spend money"
Because you want to support specific content creators and free isn't sustainable
Yeah, but for porn tho…
Just beat your meat to standard stuff or meet someone IRL, rather than developing some unhealthy attachment to someone on OF who’s exploiting your desperation.
I dunno, I guess if you just wanna pay for porn you like then it’s fine, but some people develop very unhealthy attachments/obsessions to supplement a real human connection.
It's no different than subscribing to twitch/YouTube creators. The content is just different. There are plenty of people with unhealthy obsessions that aren't related to porn.
You’re right, it’s the same as the lonely people being exploited by Twitch streamers or YT creators.
There’s a point it goes from “supporting a creator” to “throwing money at someone so they acknowledge your existence and you feel validated”.
Honestly part of the reason I stopped watching twitch, it’s just sad at a certain point as these people think they’re actually friends with the creator, rather than just enjoying the stream for what it is.
The whole donation/sub part of twitch culture is disgusting imo.
A better example would have been patreon. I’ve never given money to an online content producer of any kind (except my monthly donation to Wikipedia), but if there’s one thing the internet is good at, it’s crowdfunding. Gofundme, patreon, onlyfans, twitch, kickstarter… it’s all the same.
True, but I think the key difference is that one is an exchange of services, and the other is taking advantage of peoples desperation for a connection, whether that be a romantic connection or just friendship.
Satisfying physical urges with porn or supporting a twitch streamer you like is one thing, but these fake relationships between viewers and OF or twitch creators is wrong imo.
I feel like you're way off mark on this.
I subbed to a chick on Onlyfans because she's my type and I jerked off to her videos.
I would wager 95% + of the audience is just that, and not the "unhealthily obsessed" type that you are so hung up on.
Cases like Grant Amato have got to be the exception. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_Amato
So what you're saying is sex workers aren't real workers and don't deserve to be paid. If that becomes true and no one pays for porn, GUESS WHAT: no more porn. It has to be profitable for the people doing it. It's not like art, the vast, vast majority aren't doing it because they love it. They're doing it for money.
Nah, even if nobody paid for porn there would still be porn. In fact, there's already enough porn already made out there that we have enough to last us for centuries. But even disregarding what's already out there, people would still make porn for free because they want to show off and share their videos.
Could you imagine if porn stopped being produced in the ‘70’s and all we had to jerk off to was huge muffs (huge fan of muffs by the way (it’s mostly a texture thing))and blue eyeliner up to their eyebrows?
Not to disagree with your main point - everyone deserves to be paid - but porn scales so well that we might already have enough free amateur production for everyone. It just doesn't get to the top of SEO-optimized searches.
You've seen significant amounts of porn produced and distributed that was made for fun and not monetized? I certainly haven't.
And if that were true, why would people still be paying for it now?
There's a parasocial aspect to onlyfans since you can dm the person, and they often take requests.
I have. You just need to search a bit harder... I guess 🤷... I've even got them bookmarked, they release regularly.
Porn and OF are essentially two separate things though.
Sex workers do work and they should be paid for it, because it’s just work. OF creators often exploit desperate peoples’ emotions to take their money.
People watch porn to beat their meat and satisfy a physical urge, whereas a lot of people subscribe to OF for a fake connection that only worsens and warps their view of a healthy relationship.
If you wanna pay for Brazzers then go for it, if you’re simping for an OF creator who’s happy to just take your money then that’s sad.
How is porn the same as being with a real live human being 🤨? Sure, I can understand (up to a point... I wouldn't do it) paying for sex, but for porn 🤨... I mean, even if I did really liked something about this specific girl, nah, I wouldn't pay. She's basically selling something that hundreds of people will buy, not just me. And even if it was just me, that's not an IRL experience. I MIGHT pay for a real world sexual experience (very unlikely though), but for a fake one? No way!
Porn creators also need money to live, no?
I think you're really overthinking it. I'd say the vast majority of people paying simply came across something they wanted to see, and paying for it is faster and easier (and safer) than trying to search it out for free.
You can get a personal performance and it can be healthy. They ain't mutually exclusive, especially around niches where content isn't just reposted on every site.
I am definitely not like others, I have only paid like 3 times on OF and they were like $5 each. Sometimes you just really want to see what that person looks like. 99% of the time I don't care and free is cool. Never got exploited, or had an unhealthy attachment.
Porn was around long before OF and OF isn't why porn is still around.
OF isn't the only way people pay for porn
So basically, you like paying for porn, is that it? Or maybe that specific girl/guy? Or couple?
Yes