And his parents shipped him away to some far off school for being such a little prick.
Most kids are pricks at one point or another. The trick is to grow out of it.
I don't like the extrapolation that the person that was killed wasn't an innocent victim because they were at a Trump rally.
Uvalde police department wasn't meant to prevent shootings. (Or deal with ongoing ones either, in their opinion)
Yeah, but local police never blinks an eye to kill random person, esp non white, if they feel "scared"
I guess they did not feel "scared" enough here?
hmm, i wonder why...
It's a mystery!
Also noone can know how many people didn't even try to shoot trump or any (former) president for that matter, because the Secret Service was there with them.
I love people who think two seconds after someone yells gun a sniper is going to shoot someone. uvalde went on for hours.
Independent of Uvalde, it's generally a bad idea as a sniper to just take someone else's wors that the target you're looking at is hostile. Kinda wanna confirm for yourself before you pull the trigger.
The NRA and the like will probably use this again as an opportunity to demand even more and even bigger weapons for the police, the Secret Service and everyone else. Not that it will do any good, but they'll try anyway, I suppose.
You see, the problem wasn’t that the agents didn’t follow through on tips from the public, or have a marksman on the highest available rooftop for surveillance and counter sniping. No, the issue was that the agents could not simply shoot through the building to get the shooter.
That’s why they need recoiless rifles for the agents
Yup, would have been easy to just nuke the guy as well.
But... but he's not a hurricane... I guess they could fix him up with horse tranquilliser and bleach afterwards though. (adding a /s here for the terminally oblivious)
Why not arm everyone in the crown. Good guy with a gun and all. Or, just call it democracy via bullet, that's what they want anyway. Just let the mob shoot it out at every rally.
The RNC responded to this by banning Tennis Balls, but saying guns are okay. I'm not joking.
Damn, you are indeed not joking. I had to double-check because it's so ridiculous.
One day hopefully, we get another Kyle Rittenhouse type in there to kick off the party, and they will shoot each other.
One of the few times where the problem could be the solution...
is it credible to operate a rifle with a violin bow?
It's generally considered a bad idea because you might miss and clip their ear instead.
I think in some jurisdictions it's considered a bump stock.
I ain't paid enough to kill people for Trump
The best part is there was a police officer who climbed the roof and saw the shooter, who threatened him with the gun, so he turned around. Trump got shot because of scaredy-cop.
Edit: The cop possibly made him rush his shot and miss according to source (below). Thanks Blanketswithsmallpox. Apparently when I make a claim that is on a news site, I should put the link or get downvoted. 🤷
Sauce is AP News. Police officer likely saved Trump's life by making gunman rush for his shots.
The one time I wish they were pussies and they can't even get that right.
Trump was incredibly lucky. Shooter guy was also lucky and fairly skilled, but mostly exploited the incompetence or the security. Few cm-s to the right and he would have made history. Though I as an EU citizen would have preferred if he just stayed home. If Trump died, there would already be a civil war, and now he’ll “just” win the election, which is also not great regarding the future support of Ukraine and security of Europe.
I don't think this is going to make the election play out much differently. Trumps crazies were already going to turn out. I'm still going to turn out.
No luck about it. Luck is for people who don't plan.
Shooter guy was ... fairly skilled
Lol, not really. Hitting a bullseye on an 8 inch target is stupid easy at that distance with a rifle.
Either his sight was not properly set, or he was not very good with it. Or maybe both.
Who knows. Glad he sucked. It's just a shame his missed shots hit people.
Local police officer encountered shooter before he fired towards Trump, AP sources say
BY COLLEEN LONG
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Not long before shots rang out, rally goers noticed a man climbing to the top of a roof of a nearby building and warned local law enforcement, according to two law enforcement officials.
One officer climbed to the roof and encountered Crooks, who pointed his rifle at the officer. The officer retreated down the ladder and Crooks quickly took a shot toward former President Donald Trump, and that’s when the U.S. Secret Service counter snipers shot him, said the officials who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation.
Is this real? I hadn't heard that part yet
Tis. I provided sauce from AP News on reddit.
Glad to help. And yeah, remember that Lemmy has far fewer checks and balances on manipulation than reddit does. Providing sauce during current world events is just good etiquette.
Thanks for holding me accountable for being a good lemmy/fediverse netizen. 😊
I don't like the extrapolation that Trump is the analog of innocent school children.
https://theweek.com/speedreads/575962/donald-trump-tells-biographer-hes-same-now-first-grade
Innocent school children.
Well spotted, I stand corrected
And his parents shipped him away to some far off school for being such a little prick.
Most kids are pricks at one point or another. The trick is to grow out of it.
I don't like the extrapolation that the person that was killed wasn't an innocent victim because they were at a Trump rally.
Uvalde police department wasn't meant to prevent shootings. (Or deal with ongoing ones either, in their opinion)
Yeah, but local police never blinks an eye to kill random person, esp non white, if they feel "scared"
I guess they did not feel "scared" enough here?
hmm, i wonder why...
It's a mystery!
Also noone can know how many people didn't even try to shoot trump or any (former) president for that matter, because the Secret Service was there with them.
I love people who think two seconds after someone yells gun a sniper is going to shoot someone. uvalde went on for hours.
Independent of Uvalde, it's generally a bad idea as a sniper to just take someone else's wors that the target you're looking at is hostile. Kinda wanna confirm for yourself before you pull the trigger.
The NRA and the like will probably use this again as an opportunity to demand even more and even bigger weapons for the police, the Secret Service and everyone else. Not that it will do any good, but they'll try anyway, I suppose.
You see, the problem wasn’t that the agents didn’t follow through on tips from the public, or have a marksman on the highest available rooftop for surveillance and counter sniping. No, the issue was that the agents could not simply shoot through the building to get the shooter.
That’s why they need recoiless rifles for the agents
Yup, would have been easy to just nuke the guy as well.
But... but he's not a hurricane... I guess they could fix him up with horse tranquilliser and bleach afterwards though. (adding a /s here for the terminally oblivious)
Why not arm everyone in the crown. Good guy with a gun and all. Or, just call it democracy via bullet, that's what they want anyway. Just let the mob shoot it out at every rally.
The RNC responded to this by banning Tennis Balls, but saying guns are okay. I'm not joking.
Damn, you are indeed not joking. I had to double-check because it's so ridiculous.
One day hopefully, we get another Kyle Rittenhouse type in there to kick off the party, and they will shoot each other.
One of the few times where the problem could be the solution...
is it credible to operate a rifle with a violin bow?
It's generally considered a bad idea because you might miss and clip their ear instead.
I think in some jurisdictions it's considered a bump stock.
I ain't paid enough to kill people for Trump
The best part is there was a police officer who climbed the roof and saw the shooter, who threatened him with the gun, so he turned around.
Trump got shot because of scaredy-cop.Edit: The cop possibly made him rush his shot and miss according to source (below). Thanks Blanketswithsmallpox. Apparently when I make a claim that is on a news site, I should put the link or get downvoted. 🤷
https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1e3c07y/local_police_officer_encountered_shooter_before/
Sauce is AP News. Police officer likely saved Trump's life by making gunman rush for his shots.
The one time I wish they were pussies and they can't even get that right.
Trump was incredibly lucky. Shooter guy was also lucky and fairly skilled, but mostly exploited the incompetence or the security. Few cm-s to the right and he would have made history. Though I as an EU citizen would have preferred if he just stayed home. If Trump died, there would already be a civil war, and now he’ll “just” win the election, which is also not great regarding the future support of Ukraine and security of Europe.
I don't think this is going to make the election play out much differently. Trumps crazies were already going to turn out. I'm still going to turn out.
No luck about it. Luck is for people who don't plan.
Lol, not really. Hitting a bullseye on an 8 inch target is stupid easy at that distance with a rifle.
Either his sight was not properly set, or he was not very good with it. Or maybe both.
Who knows. Glad he sucked. It's just a shame his missed shots hit people.
Any source for that?
My cousin dreamt it
I sauced.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=police+officer+confronts+trump+shooter&t=ffip&ia=web
https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1e3c07y/local_police_officer_encountered_shooter_before/
Sauce is AP News. Police officer likely saved Trump's life by making gunman rush for his shots.
The one time I wish they were pussies and they can't even get that right.
Non-Reddit linked sauce: https://apnews.com/live/election-biden-trump-campaign-updates-07-13-2024#00000190-b27e-dc4e-ab9d-ba7eb1060000Edit: Jk it won’t work. Edit: here’s the text:
Is this real? I hadn't heard that part yet
Tis. I provided sauce from AP News on reddit.
Glad to help. And yeah, remember that Lemmy has far fewer checks and balances on manipulation than reddit does. Providing sauce during current world events is just good etiquette.
Thanks for holding me accountable for being a good lemmy/fediverse netizen. 😊
Fake lmao why lie
Let me search the web for you
I sauced Lordsinguloth.
Secret service ignored him cause he was supposed to be there. The false flag operation was already set in motion.
On a more serious note, he had minutes between being spotted and taking his shot.
The Uvalde shooter had hours.
The fact that he was a right-wing YouTuber does raise some big red flags, though.
Especially after he started yelling 'like and subscribe' from the rooftop
The Secret Service doesn't let Presidents mug for the camera if a REAL threat is present.