Pretty fucking annoying I had to come halfway down the responses to see this.
Lemmy is becoming like what reddit turned into in 2016, no more top level actual discussion, just memes and shitposts burying the real info.
I get that legacy support sucks and nobody wants to do it, but the new product is just an ad serving platform under the guise of being an OS. Maybe try to release a good Windows platform before asking people zo switch to that, just a thought I had.
But they don't want you to switch to "the new cool stuff". They want you to switch to "the ad serving platform"
To Microsoft, being an automatic ad platform is WHY they consider it better than 10. They have zero incentive to release an OS that doesn't ad spam or datamine you.
Every second windows tho. Xp good, Vista bad, 7 good, 8 bad, 10 good, 11 bad...
And they want 11 to be the last one...
Can you really say 10 is better than 7, though? 7 maybe better than vista, And 10 better than 8, But I maintain that it's a downward slope and that the versions keep getting worse overall
I...what? Never said 7 was better than 10, nor that quality goes up. Just that every second windows is good.
I don't understand how so many people are taking "Program with level 0 access shipped faulty code that caused the OS to refuse to boot until a single file is removed" as "Windows bad lmao". Not that I disagree with Windows bad, just the over liberal application and acting like this is some sort of Linux win.
Give me kernel level access and I can make anything refuse to boot
This article has a hard paywall, so I found another source.
According to this article it seems the impact was limited because it only effected the most recent Debian server release. So the issue was limited, discovered quickly, and easily fixed.
The recent windows issues was extensive for all windows machines, discovered after massive outages, and difficult to fix.
I'm not sure this is a win for Linux, but there a number of decisions that CrowdStrike made that failed to live up to the trust issue by WHQL certification.
I think that this didn't have the same extent for Linux is pure luck.
Forced updates should be illegal.
Believe it or not, CrowdStrikeâs model forces updates and people pay a lot of money for it to âhandle thingsâ for them. I had to deploy it at a previous employer about 8 years ago. It was stupid.
Problem is, an individual computer user often isnât the victim of that computerâs lack of updates.
Any time a site you like has been DDOSed, itâs often from thousands of zombie computers infected by some malware that their owners arenât aware of. Those infections are generally made possible by unclosed security holes. So, you knowâŚnot updating.
I'm fine being part of a botnet if that's the trade off for not using windows 11. Just got it installed on my testing PC at work and I hate it so much.
Forced updates of an optional corporate anti-virus designed to immediately detect and distribute information on threats should be illegal?
Or is this just an unrelated comment?
You really don't understand how many millions of hours of human effort force updates have destroyed.
Yes, there should always be, ESPECIALLY IN CORPORATE ENVIRONMENTS, a point where the client can vet and approve the update.
This recent Crowdstrike problem is proof of it. You LITERALLY witnessed proof as 1/4 of the world basically shut down for the day. This would have been avoided in many cases if the update was vetted by the local IT teams.
So CrowdStrike shouldn't allow real time threat protection? That's what caused the issue. It needs to update its threat library to do deal with any day 1 attacks. It's one of the main reasons it's used
No one forces you to update. People simply choose to run an OS where automatic updates are the default.
And that OS also lets you permanently disable automatic updates. It just doesn't give you a straight-forward GUI option for it.
Critically wrong in this case. Crowdstrike updates push outside of, and regardless of, os settings. This wasn't, and never was, an os issue, it's a crowdstrike issue. Good try though.
Tell me you don't have a clue what you are talking about without telling me.
I was pretty happy when windows 11 came out, It finally gave the push I needed to upgrade from windows 10.... to Linux.
I love windows 11. Properly divested of most of its trappings of course. revi.cc is your best friend.
What's revi.cc?
A tool that rips the guts out of windows making it faster, leaner, stronger and less leaky spy.
Itâs a url btw. Its name is Revision.
You might as well love being beaten on the ground if you like Windows
Hur dur
Why are you guys always posting this weird dude? He's ugly.
Funny, but it hit 11 just as hard.
It was funny the first 30 times, bit stale now.
Pretty fucking annoying I had to come halfway down the responses to see this.
Lemmy is becoming like what reddit turned into in 2016, no more top level actual discussion, just memes and shitposts burying the real info.
I get that legacy support sucks and nobody wants to do it, but the new product is just an ad serving platform under the guise of being an OS. Maybe try to release a good Windows platform before asking people zo switch to that, just a thought I had.
But they don't want you to switch to "the new cool stuff". They want you to switch to "the ad serving platform"
To Microsoft, being an automatic ad platform is WHY they consider it better than 10. They have zero incentive to release an OS that doesn't ad spam or datamine you.
Every second windows tho. Xp good, Vista bad, 7 good, 8 bad, 10 good, 11 bad...
And they want 11 to be the last one...
Can you really say 10 is better than 7, though? 7 maybe better than vista, And 10 better than 8, But I maintain that it's a downward slope and that the versions keep getting worse overall
I...what? Never said 7 was better than 10, nor that quality goes up. Just that every second windows is good.
~Psst...~đ§
~Psst...~ Linux was hit in April, you just didn't hear about it.
I make this comment being a daily linux user. Arch btw.
I don't understand how so many people are taking "Program with level 0 access shipped faulty code that caused the OS to refuse to boot until a single file is removed" as "Windows bad lmao". Not that I disagree with Windows bad, just the over liberal application and acting like this is some sort of Linux win.
Give me kernel level access and I can make anything refuse to boot
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41031699
TLDR; red hat broke userspace
Debian, rocky, and redhat.
Mint... Remains mint.
Mint cinnamon 21.3, mint cinnamon 21.2, and mint xfce 21.3 BTW.
Not just in April, distros broke with the June CrowdStrike bug as well.
RedHat identified CrowdStrikeâs software as being the source of a kernel panic.
Same with Debian
And RockyLinux
Did you got affected by it?
Nope. Mint btw.
Nope
This article has a hard paywall, so I found another source.
According to this article it seems the impact was limited because it only effected the most recent Debian server release. So the issue was limited, discovered quickly, and easily fixed.
The recent windows issues was extensive for all windows machines, discovered after massive outages, and difficult to fix.
I'm not sure this is a win for Linux, but there a number of decisions that CrowdStrike made that failed to live up to the trust issue by WHQL certification.
I think that this didn't have the same extent for Linux is pure luck.
Forced updates should be illegal.
Believe it or not, CrowdStrikeâs model forces updates and people pay a lot of money for it to âhandle thingsâ for them. I had to deploy it at a previous employer about 8 years ago. It was stupid.
Problem is, an individual computer user often isnât the victim of that computerâs lack of updates.
Any time a site you like has been DDOSed, itâs often from thousands of zombie computers infected by some malware that their owners arenât aware of. Those infections are generally made possible by unclosed security holes. So, you knowâŚnot updating.
I'm fine being part of a botnet if that's the trade off for not using windows 11. Just got it installed on my testing PC at work and I hate it so much.
Forced updates of an optional corporate anti-virus designed to immediately detect and distribute information on threats should be illegal?
Or is this just an unrelated comment?
You really don't understand how many millions of hours of human effort force updates have destroyed.
Yes, there should always be, ESPECIALLY IN CORPORATE ENVIRONMENTS, a point where the client can vet and approve the update.
This recent Crowdstrike problem is proof of it. You LITERALLY witnessed proof as 1/4 of the world basically shut down for the day. This would have been avoided in many cases if the update was vetted by the local IT teams.
So CrowdStrike shouldn't allow real time threat protection? That's what caused the issue. It needs to update its threat library to do deal with any day 1 attacks. It's one of the main reasons it's used
No one forces you to update. People simply choose to run an OS where automatic updates are the default.
And that OS also lets you permanently disable automatic updates. It just doesn't give you a straight-forward GUI option for it.
Critically wrong in this case. Crowdstrike updates push outside of, and regardless of, os settings. This wasn't, and never was, an os issue, it's a crowdstrike issue. Good try though.
Tell me you don't have a clue what you are talking about without telling me.
I was pretty happy when windows 11 came out, It finally gave the push I needed to upgrade from windows 10.... to Linux.
I love windows 11. Properly divested of most of its trappings of course. revi.cc is your best friend.
What's revi.cc?
A tool that rips the guts out of windows making it faster, leaner, stronger and less leaky spy.
Itâs a url btw. Its name is Revision.
You might as well love being beaten on the ground if you like Windows
Hur dur
Why are you guys always posting this weird dude? He's ugly.