Imagine Apple destroying your son's hearing and your lawyer says, "Welp, $75,000 sounds like the going rate for the ability to hear normally. Let's sue one of the biggest corporations in the world for that amount." Then you go along with it.
It's still quite active. They're arguing over discovery right now and trial is currently set for March of next year. Use court listener if you want to see the docket and read opinions, not these paid garbage sites.
They have a browser extension where anybody who pays for the document via PACER can then upload it for them to host. It's a good nonprofit doing what our government should do.
Thank you! I don't know much about law, so I was just looking on Google
No. It looks like it's still pending. They just had to amend their complaint back in 2022.
I'm surprised they're only asking $75k. That's like half a hearing aid nowadays (hyperbole)
For anyone curious, I couldn't find an exact statistics but hearing aids in the US cost between $2000 to $8000 per pair with the average costs sitting around $5000-$6000 per pair.
Insurance coverage varies per insurance provider and per state. It looks like many people will end up paying the maximum required by law before insurance takes over which is roughly between $1000-$3000 depending on state.
Not only is a single purchase expensive, you usually have to replace them every 3 to 5 years.
And that's still forgetting they cannot bring the full quality hearing back.
Just went through this
I was only able to get mine because of a grant i found, which paid 100% of the cost (over $3k).
You know, 6k$ for hearing aid makes me think hinding in forests from voenkom isn't that bad.
It should really be 7 digits, if not 8.
I searched and the only update I can find is that Apple managed to get the gross negligence and fraud by non-disclosure complaints dismissed along with the request for punitive damages. All locked behind a paywall though. Case is Gordoa v. Apple Inc et al, U.S. District Court, Northern District of California, No. 3:22-cv-02900 for anyone that has paid access to legal databases.
Why the fuck are legal databases locked behind paywalls
PACER charges per page. Mirrors charge less than that. The best is court listener, which doesn't have a paywall but might not have all documents. They're nonprofit.
The reason courts charge is because they decided to fund the filing services by lawyers paying for it instead of general taxes.
Does it play that loud on headphones on Android devices?
I’m sure it doesn’t. Also I’m an AirPod and AirPod pro user and it doesn’t play that loud on them. I believe this child’s AirPods were defective.
Mine doesn't even make a sound
Fuck how alerts are implemented. Anything less than a tornado does not need escalating alarms. Especially Amber alerts - because it's always "look out for this car!" If I'm driving, it is illegal for me to look at the phone. If I'm not driving, I'm not gonna see the fuckin' car unless it crashes through my front window. At which point, I'd like to think, I'd call the police anyway!
Nevermind that I'm in Florida, a fuckoff-massive state. I'm down in the glans. I've been rudely awakened about a kidnapping up in the grundle. I hope they sent those messages to people in Nashville, because they're just as close to Tallahassee.
I'm down in the glans. I've been rudely awakened about a kidnapping up in the grundle.
adb shell pm disable com.google.android.cellbroadcastreceiver
(This is the Wireless Emergency alert app specifically)
Caveat:
CellBroadcast is a feature of the Android Open Source Project that allows devices to receive and display emergency alerts from cellular networks. Learn how to implement CellBroadcast in your device, how to configure the broadcast channels and languages, and how to test the functionality with the CellBroadcast app.
adb shell pm disable com.google.android.cellbroadcastreceiver
(This is the Wireless Emergency alert app specifically)
(I've also disabled and/or uninstalled and/or firewalled and/or removed 'modify system settings' permissions many of my carrier apps)
Just live in a country which refuses to acknowledge cell broadcast exists, then you'll die in peaceful silence in the next national emergency while operators take several hours to to send 11 million unicast SMS.
Taps forehead
I turn that shit off. It’s so obnoxious that I don’t even care to look for the kids.
I have always been paranoid about taking my earbuds out before sleeping. I was mostly afraid of messing with the screen and turning the volume up, or pressing the buttons. I was worried about the most random thing like this too.
This is serious and I hate that I can't find a follow-up.
Imagine Apple destroying your son's hearing and your lawyer says, "Welp, $75,000 sounds like the going rate for the ability to hear normally. Let's sue one of the biggest corporations in the world for that amount." Then you go along with it.
Should be $75 million.
It just gets more and more tragic doesn't it.
EDIT: I was wrong. See https://lemmy.world/comment/11464379
I managed to figure out how to follow the case
It was reassigned to a random court because Apple declined to appear in front of a magistrate: https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/44577491/Gordoa_et_al_v_Apple,_Inc_et_al
then that court dismissed the case: https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/44560022/Gordoa_et_al_v_Apple,_Inc_et_al
so basically nothing came of it
WTF?
Thank you for the more thorough search.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/63314762/gordoa-v-apple-inc/
It's still quite active. They're arguing over discovery right now and trial is currently set for March of next year. Use court listener if you want to see the docket and read opinions, not these paid garbage sites.
They have a browser extension where anybody who pays for the document via PACER can then upload it for them to host. It's a good nonprofit doing what our government should do.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Law_Project
Thank you! I don't know much about law, so I was just looking on Google
No. It looks like it's still pending. They just had to amend their complaint back in 2022.
I'm surprised they're only asking $75k. That's like half a hearing aid nowadays (hyperbole)
For anyone curious, I couldn't find an exact statistics but hearing aids in the US cost between $2000 to $8000 per pair with the average costs sitting around $5000-$6000 per pair.
Insurance coverage varies per insurance provider and per state. It looks like many people will end up paying the maximum required by law before insurance takes over which is roughly between $1000-$3000 depending on state.
Not only is a single purchase expensive, you usually have to replace them every 3 to 5 years.
And that's still forgetting they cannot bring the full quality hearing back.
Just went through this
I was only able to get mine because of a grant i found, which paid 100% of the cost (over $3k).
You know, 6k$ for hearing aid makes me think hinding in forests from voenkom isn't that bad.
It should really be 7 digits, if not 8.
I searched and the only update I can find is that Apple managed to get the gross negligence and fraud by non-disclosure complaints dismissed along with the request for punitive damages. All locked behind a paywall though. Case is Gordoa v. Apple Inc et al, U.S. District Court, Northern District of California, No. 3:22-cv-02900 for anyone that has paid access to legal databases.
Why the fuck are legal databases locked behind paywalls
PACER charges per page. Mirrors charge less than that. The best is court listener, which doesn't have a paywall but might not have all documents. They're nonprofit.
The reason courts charge is because they decided to fund the filing services by lawyers paying for it instead of general taxes.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/63314762/gordoa-v-apple-inc/
Thank you for the more thorough search.
Well that's terrifying
Does it play that loud on headphones on Android devices?
I’m sure it doesn’t. Also I’m an AirPod and AirPod pro user and it doesn’t play that loud on them. I believe this child’s AirPods were defective.
Mine doesn't even make a sound
Fuck how alerts are implemented. Anything less than a tornado does not need escalating alarms. Especially Amber alerts - because it's always "look out for this car!" If I'm driving, it is illegal for me to look at the phone. If I'm not driving, I'm not gonna see the fuckin' car unless it crashes through my front window. At which point, I'd like to think, I'd call the police anyway!
Nevermind that I'm in Florida, a fuckoff-massive state. I'm down in the glans. I've been rudely awakened about a kidnapping up in the grundle. I hope they sent those messages to people in Nashville, because they're just as close to Tallahassee.
👁️👄👁️ Not the glans and grundle
Relevant (NSFW language)
Android can disable these alerts using ADB
adb start-serveradb shell pm disable com.android.cellbroadcastserviceEdit: AND
adb shell pm disable com.google.android.cellbroadcastreceiver(This is the Wireless Emergency alert app specifically)Caveat:
CellBroadcast is a feature of the Android Open Source Project that allows devices to receive and display emergency alerts from cellular networks. Learn how to implement CellBroadcast in your device, how to configure the broadcast channels and languages, and how to test the functionality with the CellBroadcast app.
This is the app code that provides these alerts.
https://source.android.com/docs/core/ota/modular-system/cellbroadcast
I can just disable them in the settings...
Yep.
Most devices just ask you if you want to keep receiving emergency alerts after the first one. (At least in Romania)
Some countries send it on a channel level which cannot be blocked/silenced/opted out of.
The 'presidential alert' level.
Sup. I've also had my carrier re-enable it wirelessly.
I don't have a screenshot of my own, but I found one on the internet:
That is seriously fucked up
If the disable method doesn't work, you can try
adb shell pm uninstall -user 0 -k com.android.cellbroadcastserviceEdit: AND
adb shell pm disable com.google.android.cellbroadcastreceiver(This is the Wireless Emergency alert app specifically)(I've also disabled and/or uninstalled and/or firewalled and/or removed 'modify system settings' permissions many of my carrier apps)
Just live in a country which refuses to acknowledge cell broadcast exists, then you'll die in peaceful silence in the next national emergency while operators take several hours to to send 11 million unicast SMS.
Taps forehead
I turn that shit off. It’s so obnoxious that I don’t even care to look for the kids.
I have always been paranoid about taking my earbuds out before sleeping. I was mostly afraid of messing with the screen and turning the volume up, or pressing the buttons. I was worried about the most random thing like this too.