Why is the community for Honkai Star Rail and Genshin Impact like this?

Buttflapper@lemmy.world to Games@lemmy.world – 2 points –

I can't be the only one who finds this stuff Just the slightest bit revolting, right? Like ... Wow. I'm at a loss for words

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Are you surprised that anime fans are sexually attracted to their characters?

They sometimes do it with clearly underage characters too!

I take offense! I watch anime, but I'm not a fucking slug like this creeps.

Man, am I glad I grew up with less horny games. Like Tomb raider, Metroid or Shantae.

The real reason is probably that we said comparable stuff, just as whispers and not written in an anonymous forum. And we weren't even egged on by forum culture or our games to be as horny as possible, the former drives engagement while the ladder drives sales.

Do they hit people with the ladder if they don't buy?

I would argue Shantae is definitely horny, the games have some innuendo jokes specially the DSi one.

Yeah, I was just pulling your leg. Being a goofy goober. Why would you read this very specific list of games and think I was earnest?

Tomb raider had infinitely many rumours about a nude-cheat because boys were so thirsting about Lara Croft, while Metroid and Shantae reward fast playthroughs with bikini pics.

turn around 120 times while standing in the kitchen sink and you'll unlock the nude skin !! 8yo me believed

...have you played a Hoyoverse game? They have something for everybody. Femboy, straight, furry, sharks, Ace, we've have it all!

This is a big reason why inceldom has risen imo. Not because of the content, but because of groups of men all reinforcing this behavior.

Now, I won't lie, roleplay or imagination is one thing, but going online and normalizing this behavior in public is a very very different. Thing, and changes and normalizes that it's okay to do around real women. Thoughts and behaviors change, and then they wonder why real actual women want nothing to do with them.

In essence, hey if impregnation is your kink, you do you. You talk that way in public? Pretty weird bro.

Not because of the content, but because of groups of men all reinforcing this behavior.

I genuinely know more women than men that act like this. I can't say you're entirely wrong about the problems with normalizing behaviour and the like, but simplifying it to "men are disgusting and know nothing of 'real, actual women" when real, actual women are sometimes equally disgusting is, well concerning.

This particular brand of behaviour is usually about rejection of social norms far more than it is ever about the objectification of women. People who have been rejected by society like to take back the power by rejecting the norms of that society.

This is a big reason why inceldom has risen imo

I haven't seen it nearly this bad until this year. This is the worst year I've ever seen for it, and Hoyo games are by far the worst

hey if impregnation is your kink, you do you

It seems like it's worse than that. I've seen people making extremely inappropriate comments about young characters. For example in Zenless Zone Zero subreddit, there are people that post pictures of the young characters that look like children, Piper and a few others that I don't recall off the top of my head. But they are half naked and fan art of them in extremely suggestive positions. Borderline pedophilia but it's a made up fictional character so they claim it doesn't count and it's perfectly fine. Such a strange view on reality

I haven’t seen it nearly this bad until this year. This is the worst year I’ve ever seen for it, and Hoyo games are by far the worst

Congrats for lasting this far. I quit the anime world years ago when it became clear that that shit was becoming the norm, and 95% of products specifically catered to that demographic.

This, by far, was the biggest factor for me quitting anime, but also, it hasn't evolved or changed at all since the 2000s. It's all the same tired tropes and stereotypes. Throw in a few dashes of misogyny and bam, top anime apparently.

There IS a difference between reality and fantasy. We see it all the time.

There is an actual fetish for consesual non consent aka rape fantasy/roleplay. If we allow that people routinely engage in fake rape, then why are you surprised if anything else is sexualized. People are weird.

But is it not just as disturbing to you when people glorify violence and gore such as the Saw franchise?

I do not understand the attraction to these things either, but I dont think its healthy to pretend that reality and fantasy cant be separated.

and that's the real issue I see, is that in inceldom, the line between fantasy and reality is so blurred that they don't understand the social norms. If r*pe kink is your thing, and your partner and you like to do it, I think that's fine. personally I don't like it, but it's you in your private home and it's your thing, I'm not going to be the one to say not to.

The key though is that there's a hard line between fantasy and reality, and if you start thinking that real, live women want that, that 's a huge red line you crossed, and same with most other things.

Idk, like you said people are weird, and we desperately try to fit them into boxes, and when it comes to sex that's nearly impossible. The key is knowing that what you're into at home is very different than what you do to real people. I'm rambling a bit, but consent is really the thing. Real people need to consent, unlike online fantasies.

Not to disagree with anything you’re saying, but I hate the phrase “borderline pedophillia.” Either they’re sexualizing children or not. It’s like saying “non-consensual sex.” There’s no such thing. It’s rape or consensual sex.

I hate the phrase “borderline pedophillia.” Either they’re sexualizing children or not.

They hide behind the fact that character age isn't expressly stated anywhere, so it's technically not pedo behavior since it's unknown what age it is. But me personally, I think they're underage.

Example from Zenless subreddit. Piper is a character that looks like she's anywhere from 10 to 15 years of age, and people are posting her half naked.

Here's another post with a very one-sided discussion about NSFW art for characters who are clearly minors, in which the community basically downvotes anyone who tries to voice their opinion that creating erotica and other NSFW art for minors and adolescents is wrong. Truly disgusting behavior, and I'm in disbelief that there's a gaming community out there today like this....

Man, if I had any illusions about Lemmy being filled with literal children, this thread would clear them right up. Sexual objectification is gross and it does have consequences, y'all.

No? Welcome to gachas, don't even pretend girls don't want to be put on the wall by their daddies, there are plenty of thirsty traps with the dudes on TikTok.

These are games made to sell you waifus and husbandus, they are appealing by design. I recommend you to watch the newest Jane Doe trailer on the Zenless channel, this is the target demographic.

I highly recommend this video that explains gacha games and how they objectify women and sometimes men.

The absolute irony of clicking this link and being met by an ad for some gacha game featuring ample-chested anime characters

Games that are in the business of selling anime girls end up attracting a certain demographic. And as the developers know who their audience is and double down on catering to that crowd, this kind of behavior becomes increasingly normalized over time.

There are 2 problems here.

  • The company drawing a (probably underaged) character nude with a towel.
  • The player base sexualizing a (probably underaged) character.

Being ironically horny on Reddit is a thing. Have you seen r/Ultrakill or stuff like that?

At first, I thought this was a screenshot from Lemmy and thought what the hell. Then I saw that it's Reddit and all my questions got answered. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Imagine thinking reddit is the only internet forum with gross idiots.

I don't? There's also 4chan.

Well, jokes aside, I'm not of the opinion that humans are either gross idiots or non-gross idiots. I rather think that their social context brings out the gross that lives in all of us.
Reddit is big enough that people feel even more anonymous there, and that there's enough people willing to share their gross interests to form communities. When those communities exist, you also get an influx of users specifically looking for all of that. Lemmy is just not big enough.

I would guess the absurdity is the point. People trying to make each other laugh. If it bothers you, you don’t need to be there.

You say this, but on TikTok people are genuinely so serious when they comment on stuff about the game and Zenless. "I need her bro" or “I'd do anything for her"

Just watch out for those that went too far and negatively impact real people and go off on those ones. It's a waste of your time and effort to go after each dirty joke like this.