This is so true. There have been many occasions where I thought someone was using TikTok, but it was just another app that looked exactly the same (Instagram, LinkedIn, some guitar learning app etc)
That's kind of the idea. I miss the originality of old systems, but it seems like a lot of developers are prioritizing consistency and learnability for the sake of accessibility.
I want my winamp skins back
Makes sense as developers probably got sick of helping their family fix simple issues that were just slightly more work than pressing a single button.
Most redditors and twitter users where too lazy to make the jump because the idea of more than one instance is somehow confusing.
The ones who even knew are the ones who are usually considered more computer literate than the average bear, since most people don't know what fediverse is.
Lower your bar.
Having multiple instances is confusing until you realize that you just ignore it and it doesn't matter. The problem with federation is that it isn't immediately apparent what the benefits are outside of "not Reddit" - the sign up process also didn't make it clear what the differences between various instances were, if any.
They really need to just fix the truly awful onboarding process.
Multiple instances are confusing because they matter a whole hell of a lot, and understanding exactly how instances federate things to each other is absolutely crucial to having a good experience on the fediverse.
Anyone who thinks it’s simple or doesn’t matter, or makes that annoying comparison to email really just don’t understand how the fediverse actually works.
That's my point really the whole thing is overly confusing and not all that interesting.
Developers are just glad that skeuomorphism has gone the way the dinosaur. It was a bunch of extra work you needed to put in to intentionally make everything look overly complicated and fiddly.
It’s laid out just like Spotify and Apple Music, so pretty much.
Nintendo lawyers prepping to sue YouTube music
It was very clever of Google to steal Nintendo's copyright before Nintendo designed it.
Google's secret time travel project must be further along than I thought.
This is just Material Design a set of design principles and components by Google for developers to use.
Material Design is an adaptable system of guidelines, components, and tools that support the best practices of user interface design. Backed by open-source code, Material Design streamlines collaboration between designers and developers, and helps teams quickly build beautiful products.
Even Google doesn't follow their own design guidelines.
Nobody has to follow any guidelines, that’s why they’re named that.
Idk the layout and available options in the first few screens are way too close, this isn't just stylistic similarity
The layout is like, the most important part of material design.
But not the options in them. Look at the first screenshot, the options available and their position on screen are identical to a T, "add to favourites", "download", more options next to the album art, followed by a play and shuffle button, followed by the playlist, followed by 3 tabs, a home, search/explore, and my music tab. This isn't just "card with heading and options next to it" close
Edit: and no, it's very much the visual style that differentiates material design from everything else lol, like it has components available on material.io sure but they're just basic components, cards, buttons, etc. not full screens.
I can't wait for Nintendo to sue YouTube for copying their product.
Of all the music apps, why? I HATE Youtube Music. I only use it because I get it free with Youtube Premium, but its a shit app. Google Music and Google Podcasts died for this?
First off, I can't separate my podcasts from my music like I used to when we had two discrete apps, so whenever I want to listen to one, it erases the queue for the other. Why not have the ability to have seperate playlists for each?
Then there was the whole "merging your liked Youtube videos with your liked songs", so you'd get the audio from a 7 minute video playing at random intervals while you're just trying to listen to music. To their credit, they did fix that after several months of user complaints.
It also crashes fairly regularly when I'm broadcasting to my Google home speaker, which is actually kind of funny when you think about it.
All in all, 2/10 app, would not recommend.
I am by no means a YTM Stan and I agree it’s not a great app, but at the same time I struggle to think of one that’s objectively better, besides the now defunct Google Play Music. And that was only really better because it was easier to navigate.
Better for what? I only listen to mp3s I've got stored on my phone; I use BlackPlayer for that, and I love it. For streaming music purposes... I dunno, I never got into that racket.
Yes, honestly the fact that 'youtube music' is literally just a different frontend for YouTube drives me nuts, it goes both ways, the YouTube app for TV doesn't have proper features either, it's unclear if you are getting the music or video version and the most egregious of them all imo, on the TV app, you can't freaking browse for a different song while music is playing, you have to stop the song to go to the search bar.
Also the recommendation algorithm is awful compared to Google Play Music
Must be a you problem because I'm having none of the issues
I enjoy YouTube Music, because it is much snappier and better than Spotify, but there are some things that just make no sense, and I wonder how are they not spotted by not even a single dev.
I much prefer RiMusic. Doesn't require an account, doesn't have the problems you described, is FOSS, and is on F-Droid. While my main collection is local, I rely on this for discovery.
What a terrible app to clone...
I hope the big G will pull the big N into court.
Based on what? All apps just look like this now. If you blurred the content and told me this was the Netflix app, I'd be like yeah checks out.
No clearly Youtube have copied Nintendo and should expect a summons in due course
Nintendo has been taking down music for some years now, and now it wants to release a music service. They should had done this a long time ago.
The last thing i'm worried about being spoiled about is a video games soundtrack.
Looks more like Spotify to me, which came before YouTube music app, I think
OK, it's possible it's a template Google made available for android developers. I find the YT music app easy* to navigate so quite like it.
Easier to navigate than what? If you say Google play music I'll drive to your nuts and kick you in the house. Ytm is hot dog water and gets worse every update
I'm sad every day that Google Play Music is gone.
I just wish I could find a playlist I actually want to listen to.
I can't wait until someone cracks it and I can just use it as my go-to source for Nintendo music storage.
Hot take, all apps look the same now.
This is so true. There have been many occasions where I thought someone was using TikTok, but it was just another app that looked exactly the same (Instagram, LinkedIn, some guitar learning app etc)
That's kind of the idea. I miss the originality of old systems, but it seems like a lot of developers are prioritizing consistency and learnability for the sake of accessibility.
I want my winamp skins back
Makes sense as developers probably got sick of helping their family fix simple issues that were just slightly more work than pressing a single button.
Most redditors and twitter users where too lazy to make the jump because the idea of more than one instance is somehow confusing.
The ones who even knew are the ones who are usually considered more computer literate than the average bear, since most people don't know what fediverse is.
Lower your bar.
Having multiple instances is confusing until you realize that you just ignore it and it doesn't matter. The problem with federation is that it isn't immediately apparent what the benefits are outside of "not Reddit" - the sign up process also didn't make it clear what the differences between various instances were, if any.
They really need to just fix the truly awful onboarding process.
Multiple instances are confusing because they matter a whole hell of a lot, and understanding exactly how instances federate things to each other is absolutely crucial to having a good experience on the fediverse.
Anyone who thinks it’s simple or doesn’t matter, or makes that annoying comparison to email really just don’t understand how the fediverse actually works.
That's my point really the whole thing is overly confusing and not all that interesting.
Developers are just glad that skeuomorphism has gone the way the dinosaur. It was a bunch of extra work you needed to put in to intentionally make everything look overly complicated and fiddly.
It’s laid out just like Spotify and Apple Music, so pretty much.
Nintendo lawyers prepping to sue YouTube music
It was very clever of Google to steal Nintendo's copyright before Nintendo designed it.
Google's secret time travel project must be further along than I thought.
This is just Material Design a set of design principles and components by Google for developers to use.
Even Google doesn't follow their own design guidelines.
Nobody has to follow any guidelines, that’s why they’re named that.
Idk the layout and available options in the first few screens are way too close, this isn't just stylistic similarity
The layout is like, the most important part of material design.
But not the options in them. Look at the first screenshot, the options available and their position on screen are identical to a T, "add to favourites", "download", more options next to the album art, followed by a play and shuffle button, followed by the playlist, followed by 3 tabs, a home, search/explore, and my music tab. This isn't just "card with heading and options next to it" close
Edit: and no, it's very much the visual style that differentiates material design from everything else lol, like it has components available on material.io sure but they're just basic components, cards, buttons, etc. not full screens.
I can't wait for Nintendo to sue YouTube for copying their product.
Of all the music apps, why? I HATE Youtube Music. I only use it because I get it free with Youtube Premium, but its a shit app. Google Music and Google Podcasts died for this?
First off, I can't separate my podcasts from my music like I used to when we had two discrete apps, so whenever I want to listen to one, it erases the queue for the other. Why not have the ability to have seperate playlists for each?
Then there was the whole "merging your liked Youtube videos with your liked songs", so you'd get the audio from a 7 minute video playing at random intervals while you're just trying to listen to music. To their credit, they did fix that after several months of user complaints.
It also crashes fairly regularly when I'm broadcasting to my Google home speaker, which is actually kind of funny when you think about it.
All in all, 2/10 app, would not recommend.
I am by no means a YTM Stan and I agree it’s not a great app, but at the same time I struggle to think of one that’s objectively better, besides the now defunct Google Play Music. And that was only really better because it was easier to navigate.
Better for what? I only listen to mp3s I've got stored on my phone; I use BlackPlayer for that, and I love it. For streaming music purposes... I dunno, I never got into that racket.
Yes, honestly the fact that 'youtube music' is literally just a different frontend for YouTube drives me nuts, it goes both ways, the YouTube app for TV doesn't have proper features either, it's unclear if you are getting the music or video version and the most egregious of them all imo, on the TV app, you can't freaking browse for a different song while music is playing, you have to stop the song to go to the search bar.
Also the recommendation algorithm is awful compared to Google Play Music
Must be a you problem because I'm having none of the issues
I enjoy YouTube Music, because it is much snappier and better than Spotify, but there are some things that just make no sense, and I wonder how are they not spotted by not even a single dev.
I much prefer RiMusic. Doesn't require an account, doesn't have the problems you described, is FOSS, and is on F-Droid. While my main collection is local, I rely on this for discovery.
What a terrible app to clone...
I hope the big G will pull the big N into court.
Based on what? All apps just look like this now. If you blurred the content and told me this was the Netflix app, I'd be like yeah checks out.
No clearly Youtube have copied Nintendo and should expect a summons in due course
Nintendo has been taking down music for some years now, and now it wants to release a music service. They should had done this a long time ago.
The last thing i'm worried about being spoiled about is a video games soundtrack.
Looks more like Spotify to me, which came before YouTube music app, I think
OK, it's possible it's a template Google made available for android developers. I find the YT music app easy* to navigate so quite like it.
Easier to navigate than what? If you say Google play music I'll drive to your nuts and kick you in the house. Ytm is hot dog water and gets worse every update
I'm sad every day that Google Play Music is gone.
I just wish I could find a playlist I actually want to listen to.
I can't wait until someone cracks it and I can just use it as my go-to source for Nintendo music storage.
...(in Minecraft)