Republicans don't really want a functioning government. They just want something they can control.
Yea it’s called fascism
Totally agree, and yet once Trump is finally dead and gone, roughly 1/2 of the voters in this country will shockingly be willing to give the next leader of the GOP another shot at driving us into the ground. Even many of those who admit to hating Trump, somehow are willing to clean the slate with some other future Republican candidate.
That's one of the most infuriating things that I have seen over the years.
It doesn't matter how badly one Republican politician screws up. It doesn't matter how many times it happens or how many others are involved and helped along the way, the party as a whole never gets tainted by their corruption and incompetence. This is the single biggest failure of the Democratic party that they can't taint the corruption of Trump onto ALL other Republicans. They couldn't do that with George W a generation ago. They couldn't do that with Reagan some 40 years ago, and they couldn't do that with Nixon some 60 years ago.
On the flip side, if Pelosi did one stupid gaffe, every Democrat since the beginning of time would be painted with the same wide brush. Most elected Dems are fairly moderate, and yet you have one left-wing Democrat saying some rather extreme stuff and somehow the entire DNC is labeled as being socialist or communist or some other extreme position that is simply not true. A long time ago, Republicans poisoned the well that is the term "liberal" so these days all a Republican needs to do is say that one word and his Democratic opponent will lose votes no matter how moderate that person might be.
Really sad the GOP has the better "Brand" when in reality they're just Nazi's
That's exactly it. Their Branding is impeccable.
What is annoying as all hell is that Democrats like to portray themselves as the younger, hip party and young people love to pretend that they are savvy when it comes to marketing. So if they are so savvy with marketing, then why the hell is Democratic branding so damn bad?? Why are moderates and liberals so clueless when it comes to connecting with voters? That's all part of being a savvy brand. And yet the old and stodgy GOP outmaneuvers them constantly when it comes to image.
It's harder to market to smart people than dumb people
I don’t know. If the people are smart then they would know who to vote for right?
Harder? Maybe, but definitely not impossible. Not even close. There are a lot of smart people that have fallen for this clown. That's what charisma and propaganda and one's environment can do to someone. It is powerful and scary stuff.
Democrats like to portray the Party as progressive, but progressivism is really just window dressing for the Democratic party. They like that progressive ideas get them followers, and sometimes a few progressives get elected (often opposed by their own party), but in general the party is Center Right with some moderate trappings.
Which is why it is so ineffective. This is by design.
Because it's full of salesmen
Nah it's because always their movement is top down, and the left's is bottom up.
Because our population is too stupid
A small part of me kinda wants to see what would happen is the "Freedom Caucus" got what they want, since all of them have the I.Q. of half a squirrel, don't actually have a plan for governing, and are being held together by the dollar store glue called "a common enemy".
The rest of me is sane and just wants those mofo's to disappear already.
Nah they have a plan, it's an army of Kyle Rittenhouses and executive pardons for terrorism.
So if you do anything to avert a disaster of a shutdown we will try to remove you. The concessions they are asking for are crazy.
Sounds like a public admission that it’s against the GOP’s policy to work with Democrats.
It's not against the GOPs rules, quite a bit of bi-partisan legislation has passed since Biden took office, but it is against the "Freedom Caucus" rules.
quite a bit of bi-partisan legislation has passed since Biden took office
Thank you for this. It’s good to get a bit of grounding when getting lost in the hyperbole.
Why does he look like he is straining to get a log of shit out of his ass?
In July 2023, Jackson was briefly detained by law enforcement in White Deer, Texas during a rodeo. Video of the incident showed that Jackson was attempting to assist a teenager suffering from a seizure. After being asked by a trooper to step back to allow paramedics to take over, Jackson shouted profanities at him. Jackson lunged at the trooper and was physically held back by bystanders. After Jackson pushed past officers who positioned themselves between him and the trooper, he was taken down and handcuffed. Jackson was soon uncuffed and said that he would call the governor. Jackson later spoke to Carson County Sheriff Tam Terry, with Terry reporting that Jackson demanded consequences for the deputies who handcuffed him and threatened to go after Terry politically.
What a fucking dumbass. Let me refuse to move for emergency responders and then attack a cop.
This is a bunch of hot air at best I think. They floated the idea of removing him after the deal he made earlier this year around the debt ceiling. And keep floating it every time they get upset he isnt following the most insane part of the party. The thing is, if they had the votes for a different speaker they would have removed McCarthy already. They dont, they probably dont have enough votes to even remove him, i believe you need a majority to actually remove him. So this just seems like more talk with no ability to do anything.
I agree. McCarthy knows that his own election to the post was such a shitshow that the GOP does not want to go through that drama publicly again. Going through with their threat is lose/lose and McCarthy knows it.
Do it, I want more pictures of AOC wearing a shit eating grin watching them vote over and over.
I'm just over here wanting more pics of AOC.
It'll never happen. There aren't enough votes for an alternative.
These people. Seriously. They agreed to the deal months ago, only to go back on the deal a month before the deal is to go into effect. It's almost as if working with Republicans on anything is useless... Biden didn't have to agree with them on anything. He could have instructed the treasurery department to ignore congress and continue to pay bills. But no, fool me 40 times shame on you I guess.
"inevitable, if...."
Not sure they know what inevitable means.
The thing is, the threat doesn't actually work against moderate actions. If the Democrats get a deal done, they can promise to vote to keep McCarthy as part of the deal.
With all Democrats and McCarthy they would only need his 5 most loyal allies to vote to keep him, and obviously in reality at least 100 House members agree with McCarthy more than the Freedom Caucus fringe.
Republicans don't really want a functioning government. They just want something they can control.
Yea it’s called fascism
Totally agree, and yet once Trump is finally dead and gone, roughly 1/2 of the voters in this country will shockingly be willing to give the next leader of the GOP another shot at driving us into the ground. Even many of those who admit to hating Trump, somehow are willing to clean the slate with some other future Republican candidate.
That's one of the most infuriating things that I have seen over the years.
It doesn't matter how badly one Republican politician screws up. It doesn't matter how many times it happens or how many others are involved and helped along the way, the party as a whole never gets tainted by their corruption and incompetence. This is the single biggest failure of the Democratic party that they can't taint the corruption of Trump onto ALL other Republicans. They couldn't do that with George W a generation ago. They couldn't do that with Reagan some 40 years ago, and they couldn't do that with Nixon some 60 years ago.
On the flip side, if Pelosi did one stupid gaffe, every Democrat since the beginning of time would be painted with the same wide brush. Most elected Dems are fairly moderate, and yet you have one left-wing Democrat saying some rather extreme stuff and somehow the entire DNC is labeled as being socialist or communist or some other extreme position that is simply not true. A long time ago, Republicans poisoned the well that is the term "liberal" so these days all a Republican needs to do is say that one word and his Democratic opponent will lose votes no matter how moderate that person might be.
Really sad the GOP has the better "Brand" when in reality they're just Nazi's
That's exactly it. Their Branding is impeccable.
What is annoying as all hell is that Democrats like to portray themselves as the younger, hip party and young people love to pretend that they are savvy when it comes to marketing. So if they are so savvy with marketing, then why the hell is Democratic branding so damn bad?? Why are moderates and liberals so clueless when it comes to connecting with voters? That's all part of being a savvy brand. And yet the old and stodgy GOP outmaneuvers them constantly when it comes to image.
It's harder to market to smart people than dumb people
I don’t know. If the people are smart then they would know who to vote for right?
Harder? Maybe, but definitely not impossible. Not even close. There are a lot of smart people that have fallen for this clown. That's what charisma and propaganda and one's environment can do to someone. It is powerful and scary stuff.
Democrats like to portray the Party as progressive, but progressivism is really just window dressing for the Democratic party. They like that progressive ideas get them followers, and sometimes a few progressives get elected (often opposed by their own party), but in general the party is Center Right with some moderate trappings.
Which is why it is so ineffective. This is by design.
Because it's full of salesmen
Nah it's because always their movement is top down, and the left's is bottom up.
Because our population is too stupid
A small part of me kinda wants to see what would happen is the "Freedom Caucus" got what they want, since all of them have the I.Q. of half a squirrel, don't actually have a plan for governing, and are being held together by the dollar store glue called "a common enemy".
The rest of me is sane and just wants those mofo's to disappear already.
Nah they have a plan, it's an army of Kyle Rittenhouses and executive pardons for terrorism.
So if you do anything to avert a disaster of a shutdown we will try to remove you. The concessions they are asking for are crazy.
Sounds like a public admission that it’s against the GOP’s policy to work with Democrats.
It's not against the GOPs rules, quite a bit of bi-partisan legislation has passed since Biden took office, but it is against the "Freedom Caucus" rules.
Thank you for this. It’s good to get a bit of grounding when getting lost in the hyperbole.
Why does he look like he is straining to get a log of shit out of his ass?
What a fucking dumbass. Let me refuse to move for emergency responders and then attack a cop.
This is a bunch of hot air at best I think. They floated the idea of removing him after the deal he made earlier this year around the debt ceiling. And keep floating it every time they get upset he isnt following the most insane part of the party. The thing is, if they had the votes for a different speaker they would have removed McCarthy already. They dont, they probably dont have enough votes to even remove him, i believe you need a majority to actually remove him. So this just seems like more talk with no ability to do anything.
I agree. McCarthy knows that his own election to the post was such a shitshow that the GOP does not want to go through that drama publicly again. Going through with their threat is lose/lose and McCarthy knows it.
Do it, I want more pictures of AOC wearing a shit eating grin watching them vote over and over.
I'm just over here wanting more pics of AOC.
It'll never happen. There aren't enough votes for an alternative.
These people. Seriously. They agreed to the deal months ago, only to go back on the deal a month before the deal is to go into effect. It's almost as if working with Republicans on anything is useless... Biden didn't have to agree with them on anything. He could have instructed the treasurery department to ignore congress and continue to pay bills. But no, fool me 40 times shame on you I guess.
"inevitable, if...."
Not sure they know what inevitable means.
The thing is, the threat doesn't actually work against moderate actions. If the Democrats get a deal done, they can promise to vote to keep McCarthy as part of the deal.
With all Democrats and McCarthy they would only need his 5 most loyal allies to vote to keep him, and obviously in reality at least 100 House members agree with McCarthy more than the Freedom Caucus fringe.
Democrats voting for a Republican Speaker.
We're through the looking glass, people.
Adults in the room. A sad, sad room.