I love it, because it is not an over exaggeration like it happens most of the time with memes, but actual, real diagram for WordPress.
I didn’t even notice that, that’s amazing
Well yeah, but it has little more consideration than just a RPI sitting on your table.
The good news is, based on the diagram looking like it's straight from AWS docs, there's a Cloud formation template for all that.
Bad news, good luck troubleshooting any of it if something breaks
More good news: There are lots of simpler hosts that are more deserving of your money than Jeff Bezos.
Name and shame. I'd love go start a new home project without bezobucks limiting what I can afford.
Depends on your region and use-cases.
As fellow german I luckily have an answer for smaller projects, where my non-techy mother-in-law hosts her own business wordpress since years without any issues. It's just a simple webhoster with ssh-login.
Best thing: it's pay-what-you-want.
My first projects were 1€/mo because i was broke; nowadays I voluntary pay a bit more.
I’ve been with digital ocean for more years than I can remember. I love Digital Ocean. Their core product is great, great UI, API, and their new products have been great as well. I’m using their K8s managed install for a year or so now on a product with no issues.
I believe they have 1 click installs for Wordpresss.
Here’s a referral code for $200 over 2 months if anyone wants to try it:
I adore DO. They offer so many good products beyond VMs these days. Their K8s is cheap and their AppEngine stuff is like baby FarGate, sort of. They even offer server less as well.
S3, RDS, NLBs, it's all there 😎
Hetzner has €2/m webhost plan with Wordpress installer
Arstechnica runs on WordPress on AWS, and they have a really nice series of articles about it.
Sure, you could use just one EC2 instance for everything, but on a high traffic website you would need a bit more.
But how many sites really are high traffic?
That's the thing with almost all of the cloud stuff: reasonable at scale, but overcomplicated garbage for 95% of the users.
95%? More like 99.999%, considering how many Wordpress sites are there.
And in many of these 0.001% cases, simple horizontal scaling would do the trick.
And if you need more than that, just use something that can work on the edge.
There's a big chunk of sites that have WP running but are mostly just static content, confusingly. If you update the content once a month and disable all comments, maybe another tool could fit better there. ¯\(ツ)/¯
I thought the same thing and tried to do a static site generator for a while, but I just liked the WordPress UI too much for composing and editing vs manually placing my images in an assets folder and remembering the file names to add them in my markdown.
Besides, with a good caching solution, isn't WordPress effectively a static site with extra steps for many use cases?
I've definitely used WP in that manner as well. At that time there were plugins that would render the pages out to static HTML in object storage. I'm sure there still are, but possibly not the same ones I used.
I just prefer not to use or manage WP whenever possible.
Gets a $3000 bill because they picked the wrong instance type.
The equivalent of "just configure && make && make install bro, it's super easy"
(it never is)
Edit: Alright, is it just my browser or does lemmy not know how to hand ampersands? Test: && && & &
Do you ever make install for minutes just to have it crash at the end because you missed a completely random C dependency?
And then you find out you have that dependency but your linker decides to not take it and then you have it but a slightly other version and you decide it's not worth it
sobs uncontrollably
Uh...I mean...of course not
No, I use Portage
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
Could you do that in
``
though?
Oh wait,
4 spaces
./configure && make && make install
Three circumflexes
./configure && make && make install
Edit: nope, doesn't work using the browser interface
Maybe somebody is paranoid about injections?
Gotta do that for my blog. It'll score me my next job. Might cost me $300 a month for a blog no one reads.
Try DO AppEngine and Hugo, free static site, and image hosting w CDN for .. $5 a month for the bucket.
Because how else do you tick off Cloud presence in your business bingo?
A fair point.
You might have too much money and wish to give a large portion of it to Jeff Bezos?
~ ~ scale ~ ~
Installing WordPress through a traditional Apache server shared hosting account only requires one click, and you can host as many sites as you want for like $9 per month.
Been out of the game a long time. Is Wordpress still used heavily or are people shifting to other platforms? For all the easy power it had, it always required convincing to do what it wasn't originally intended to do. Dunno if that's still the case but seems it.
I had the same impression until recently. It's now evolved into a high end, professional content management system and a ton of very high traffic sites use it. Wired runs on WordPress. Here are some other sites
Oh yeah, it's used extensively. It's far and away the most popular CMS.
Last time I tried aws, took me like four hours to figure that I had to borrow another IP address (different than the ip I received when created the instance) in order point it at my domain. Took me a long time find that option in the menu too
Edit:added cohesion and some punctuation.
Please use punctuation.
The way it's written fits very well with the madness that's AWS, though.
Sorry,I had just waken up and my lemmy app (jerboa) is terrible when erasing words..got some punctuation erased.
This is difficult to read.
Why would you need autoscaling for the bastion server?
Autoscaling isn't only used the grow the number of servers under load, but also to guarantee availability of a fixed number. If the max is set to 1, the bastion host is protected against hardware failure, zone outages, or just you screwing up.
Accidentally killed your bastion host? No problem, within a few minutes autoscaling will have provisioned a new one and you're good to go again.
From my personal experience, AWS is extremely powerful (especially on security and networking). If you cross the learning curve, and know automation or Infrastructure as Code (e.g. Terraform) then it's fast and easy to build almost any architecture.
But yes, it's overkill for a simple website or a simple setup (if one is not familiar with AWS).
I love it, because it is not an over exaggeration like it happens most of the time with memes, but actual, real diagram for WordPress.
I didn’t even notice that, that’s amazing
Well yeah, but it has little more consideration than just a RPI sitting on your table.
The good news is, based on the diagram looking like it's straight from AWS docs, there's a Cloud formation template for all that.
Bad news, good luck troubleshooting any of it if something breaks
More good news: There are lots of simpler hosts that are more deserving of your money than Jeff Bezos.
Name and shame. I'd love go start a new home project without bezobucks limiting what I can afford.
Depends on your region and use-cases.
As fellow german I luckily have an answer for smaller projects, where my non-techy mother-in-law hosts her own business wordpress since years without any issues. It's just a simple webhoster with ssh-login.
https://uberspace.de/de/
Best thing: it's pay-what-you-want. My first projects were 1€/mo because i was broke; nowadays I voluntary pay a bit more.
I’ve been with digital ocean for more years than I can remember. I love Digital Ocean. Their core product is great, great UI, API, and their new products have been great as well. I’m using their K8s managed install for a year or so now on a product with no issues.
I believe they have 1 click installs for Wordpresss.
Here’s a referral code for $200 over 2 months if anyone wants to try it:
https://m.do.co/c/cb6d78945519
I adore DO. They offer so many good products beyond VMs these days. Their K8s is cheap and their AppEngine stuff is like baby FarGate, sort of. They even offer server less as well. S3, RDS, NLBs, it's all there 😎
Hetzner has €2/m webhost plan with Wordpress installer
Like Azure? :p
https://giphy.com/gifs/theoffice-the-office-tv-frame-toby-vyTnNTrs3wqQ0UIvwE
Shouln't AWS do this?
Arstechnica runs on WordPress on AWS, and they have a really nice series of articles about it. Sure, you could use just one EC2 instance for everything, but on a high traffic website you would need a bit more.
But how many sites really are high traffic?
That's the thing with almost all of the cloud stuff: reasonable at scale, but overcomplicated garbage for 95% of the users.
95%? More like 99.999%, considering how many Wordpress sites are there.
And in many of these 0.001% cases, simple horizontal scaling would do the trick.
And if you need more than that, just use something that can work on the edge.
There's a big chunk of sites that have WP running but are mostly just static content, confusingly. If you update the content once a month and disable all comments, maybe another tool could fit better there. ¯\(ツ)/¯
I thought the same thing and tried to do a static site generator for a while, but I just liked the WordPress UI too much for composing and editing vs manually placing my images in an assets folder and remembering the file names to add them in my markdown.
Besides, with a good caching solution, isn't WordPress effectively a static site with extra steps for many use cases?
I've definitely used WP in that manner as well. At that time there were plugins that would render the pages out to static HTML in object storage. I'm sure there still are, but possibly not the same ones I used.
I just prefer not to use or manage WP whenever possible.
Gets a $3000 bill because they picked the wrong instance type.
The equivalent of "just
configure && make && make installbro, it's super easy"(it never is)
Edit: Alright, is it just my browser or does lemmy not know how to hand ampersands? Test: &&
&&&&Do you ever make install for minutes just to have it crash at the end because you missed a completely random C dependency?
And then you find out you have that dependency but your linker decides to not take it and then you have it but a slightly other version and you decide it's not worth it
sobs uncontrollably
Uh...I mean...of course not
No, I use Portage
&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
Could you do that in
though?
Oh wait,
4 spaces
Three circumflexes
Edit: nope, doesn't work using the browser interface
Maybe somebody is paranoid about injections?
Gotta do that for my blog. It'll score me my next job. Might cost me $300 a month for a blog no one reads.
Try DO AppEngine and Hugo, free static site, and image hosting w CDN for .. $5 a month for the bucket.
If a basic Wordpress on aws (no load balancers or auto scaling) is all you need… it is super easy to run on aws. Like a few clicks easy. https://aws.amazon.com/lightsail/projects/wordpress/
But then, why use AWS?
Because how else do you tick off Cloud presence in your business bingo?
A fair point.
You might have too much money and wish to give a large portion of it to Jeff Bezos?
~ ~ scale ~ ~
Installing WordPress through a traditional Apache server shared hosting account only requires one click, and you can host as many sites as you want for like $9 per month.
Been out of the game a long time. Is Wordpress still used heavily or are people shifting to other platforms? For all the easy power it had, it always required convincing to do what it wasn't originally intended to do. Dunno if that's still the case but seems it.
I had the same impression until recently. It's now evolved into a high end, professional content management system and a ton of very high traffic sites use it. Wired runs on WordPress. Here are some other sites
Oh yeah, it's used extensively. It's far and away the most popular CMS.
Last time I tried aws, took me like four hours to figure that I had to borrow another IP address (different than the ip I received when created the instance) in order point it at my domain. Took me a long time find that option in the menu too
Edit:added cohesion and some punctuation.
Please use punctuation.
The way it's written fits very well with the madness that's AWS, though.
Sorry,I had just waken up and my lemmy app (jerboa) is terrible when erasing words..got some punctuation erased.
This is difficult to read.
Why would you need autoscaling for the bastion server?
Autoscaling isn't only used the grow the number of servers under load, but also to guarantee availability of a fixed number. If the max is set to 1, the bastion host is protected against hardware failure, zone outages, or just you screwing up. Accidentally killed your bastion host? No problem, within a few minutes autoscaling will have provisioned a new one and you're good to go again.
From my personal experience, AWS is extremely powerful (especially on security and networking). If you cross the learning curve, and know automation or Infrastructure as Code (e.g. Terraform) then it's fast and easy to build almost any architecture.
But yes, it's overkill for a simple website or a simple setup (if one is not familiar with AWS).
Just use webinoly baremetal and call it a day