Defense from what?! The fuck they think ukraine was doing all this time?
It's elections next week. As soon as those are over they'll be based af again
If that's the case, then we should also keep in mind that they are in fact not "based af" but just acting like it out of their own oppotunistic reasons.
Isn't everyone doing that?
Maybe... but even then there are competent ones not getting caught and those so clearly running only on populism that it's not even surprising when they screw up... again.
hopefully
I have a pretty close Polish friend, and honestly most of waht I hear implies that Poland never was anything close to "based". Their government is on a whole new level of stupidity and cringe that other countries can only dream of. Always expect them to do the opposite of what is reasonable.
Our president already proved that he has ability to make someone curl their fingers out of cringe.
Just piss party things
It’s kinda obviously the PIS party just being fucking stupid
Yeah
Poland's politics are both fascinating and horrifying to watch.
Teile und herrsche!
Wer will ein Stückchen Polen?
it's the (cash-for-)visa incident scandal isn't it
What happened?
Poland banned imports of Ukrainian grain and does not intend to deliver more weapons to Ukraine.
Pure electoralism. Once they secure themselves they’ll soften their position.
Pure electoralism. Once they secure themselves they’ll soften their position.
I think you overestimate the rationality of government decision-making.
they already did
Kyiv-Warsaw talks continue in bid to resolve trade dispute
Ukraine’s agricultural minister, in a phone call with his Polish counterpart, has agreed to work out a solution to a trade dispute that is in the interests of both countries, the Ukrainian agriculture ministry said on Thursday.
A US official who recently visited Poland dismissed suggestions that Mateusz Morawiecki’s comments were a sign of cracks in Western solidarity with Ukraine.
The official, who spoke to Reuters on condition of anonymity about the Polish prime minister’s comments, said:
We’re all human and there are moments of tension... But that doesn’t mean that there’s going to be some dramatic shift in alliance unity or even Poland’s fundamental position and determination to support Ukraine for as long as it takes.
Why would they? Ukraine did its job of bleeding Russia militarily so it stops being a threat to Poland. Now they can discard them and the more gets destroyed the easier for Poland to sweep in afterwards and get some pieces of the cake when rebuilding.
The polish government never cared about Ukraine.
Kompromat...
Get ready for the Polish government to become buddies with Russia.
No Kompromat needed, just PiS doing PiS things. Poland banned imports of Ukrainian grain (because PiS has a largely rural support base and the farmers don't appreciate the competition), Ukraine filed a complaint with the World Trade Organisation, so now the Polish government is throwing what in political science is called a tamper tantrum.
Poland will have to pantomime anti-Russian rhetoric for domestic consumption, even if it aligns 100% with the Putinists. They can ramp up anti-German rhetoric (reopening the war reparations issue, making noises about “gender ideology” and “cultural Marxism” coming from across the border) and make the woke godless Germans the primary enemy of Holy Poland, though they still have to pretend to maintain defensive hostilities against the great bear to the east, even as they adopt the same policies and attitudes.
Don't forget the always popular narrative of the EU being just Germany's 4th Reich trying to destroy Poland as the only hurdle in their way to share control over Europe between them and their Russian buddies...
(Yes, I'm not exaggerating. That's all from actual quotes in the last 12 or so months...)
Among the neighbours of Germany, Poland is just the most annoying (remember, Fr🤮nce is also a neighbour).
If they weren't enemies they'd already be best buddies. They share the same ideological hatred.
Poland has never been based on anything, it's a country
based on soil; based on europe; based on earth
My understanding of poland goes like
-ultra religous
-xenophobes
-every once in a while "you know, polish border should go from Edinburgh to Beijing"
-germany must pay us
-ruined the fucking Oder
-second most un-based EU country
"Intends to focus on its own defense"
Defense from what?! The fuck they think ukraine was doing all this time?
It's elections next week. As soon as those are over they'll be based af again
If that's the case, then we should also keep in mind that they are in fact not "based af" but just acting like it out of their own oppotunistic reasons.
Isn't everyone doing that?
Maybe... but even then there are competent ones not getting caught and those so clearly running only on populism that it's not even surprising when they screw up... again.
hopefully
I have a pretty close Polish friend, and honestly most of waht I hear implies that Poland never was anything close to "based". Their government is on a whole new level of stupidity and cringe that other countries can only dream of. Always expect them to do the opposite of what is reasonable.
Our president already proved that he has ability to make someone curl their fingers out of cringe.
Just piss party things
It’s kinda obviously the PIS party just being fucking stupid
Yeah
Poland's politics are both fascinating and horrifying to watch.
Teile und herrsche!
Wer will ein Stückchen Polen?
it's the (cash-for-)visa
incidentscandal isn't itWhat happened?
Poland banned imports of Ukrainian grain and does not intend to deliver more weapons to Ukraine.
Pure electoralism. Once they secure themselves they’ll soften their position.
I think you overestimate the rationality of government decision-making.
they already did
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/sep/21/russia-ukraine-war-live-updates-zelenskiy-biden-kyiv-kharkiv-cherkasy-death-toll-strikes
Why would they? Ukraine did its job of bleeding Russia militarily so it stops being a threat to Poland. Now they can discard them and the more gets destroyed the easier for Poland to sweep in afterwards and get some pieces of the cake when rebuilding.
The polish government never cared about Ukraine.
Kompromat...
Get ready for the Polish government to become buddies with Russia.
No Kompromat needed, just PiS doing PiS things. Poland banned imports of Ukrainian grain (because PiS has a largely rural support base and the farmers don't appreciate the competition), Ukraine filed a complaint with the World Trade Organisation, so now the Polish government is throwing what in political science is called a tamper tantrum.
Poland will have to pantomime anti-Russian rhetoric for domestic consumption, even if it aligns 100% with the Putinists. They can ramp up anti-German rhetoric (reopening the war reparations issue, making noises about “gender ideology” and “cultural Marxism” coming from across the border) and make the woke godless Germans the primary enemy of Holy Poland, though they still have to pretend to maintain defensive hostilities against the great bear to the east, even as they adopt the same policies and attitudes.
Don't forget the always popular narrative of the EU being just Germany's 4th Reich trying to destroy Poland as the only hurdle in their way to share control over Europe between them and their Russian buddies...
(Yes, I'm not exaggerating. That's all from actual quotes in the last 12 or so months...)
Among the neighbours of Germany, Poland is just the most annoying (remember, Fr🤮nce is also a neighbour).
If they weren't enemies they'd already be best buddies. They share the same ideological hatred.
The thing I mentioned was about Cash-for-visa scandal
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2023/09/20/brussels-asks-poland-for-clarifications-about-cash-for-visa-scandal
Uh oh.
Poland has never been based on anything, it's a country
based on soil; based on europe; based on earth
My understanding of poland goes like -ultra religous -xenophobes -every once in a while "you know, polish border should go from Edinburgh to Beijing" -germany must pay us -ruined the fucking Oder -second most un-based EU country