Ladies and gentlemen: I give you the party of "small governemt".... who apparently feel we're all so incapable of managing our affairs that we need a court appointed magistrate to weigh in on if we should get life-saving medical care...
(* golfclap *)
Government small enough to fit in a woman’s uterus.
The answer to this is people can’t move because they’re tied to their fucking job living paycheck to paycheck.
How can you move out when you have a mortgage and you need to sell your house to move? What about your family? Does anyone realize how difficult it is to move your entire family somewhere else?
A real states rights person would support an initiative where every ten years there's a jubilee where you can get reimbursed to move to a better state. That would finally start to allow the "vote with your feet" thing to give the "laboratories of democracy" the feedback they need.
That means it's impossible.
The fun part about these cases challenging abortion is, if the courts delay them long enough they can dismiss them for lack of standing.
The cruelty is the point.
I can't fathom how my relatives under 50 still remain in texas.
They basically hate women, and want to push vindictive bullshit - even if this woman is afforded agency over her own body, Paxton has said he'll sue the docs nurses and medical center.
I remember Ann Richards, what the fuck, Texas.... what the actual fuck.
Gerrymandering is cool, aint it?
If people who disagree with the Republicans always leave, then the Republicans will be unopposed and will always win. This is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Children growing up in Texas can see first-hand the intentional cruelty of the ruling party, and I believe that is why the GOP will eventually lose, and their only chance for the near future is unlawfully seizing power.
In a vacuum you're not wrong, but the real-world implication is that you're asking parents to willingly subject their children to the cruelty of the GOP to maybe have a chance of changing it in the future.
Do children have to be in a school shooting to know that they shouldn't happen? Do they have to see their classmate forced to carry their rapist's baby to know that abortion should be allowed in at least some circumstances? Do they have to freeze with no power to learn that a privatized power grid will always prioritize its profits over their health?
running out the clock, denying this woman justice and forcing her to suffer just for suffering's sake. remember this in november. they'll try to pretend they've softened their position, they'll talk about reasonable exceptions, they'll pretend they're just here to defend a little life but at the end of the day the republican party platform is to identify people they consider substandard and cause them as much pain and suffering a possible. it's the common thread behind everything they try to do.
Never underestimate the cruelty, misogyny,
arrogance, of the GOP.
Hey conservatives…. Remember this when you are trying to argue that your shit political party has any compassion at all.
Nah, they dropped that line a while back. Their current mantra is screw you I got mine.
They’ve been busy doubling down lately. Pretty sure their latest slogan is Under His Eye.
"but mama under whose eye?"
"Never you mind that Jimmy, now eat your oatmeal and finish cleaning your sidearm, we got to go to the mall today"
What a reasonable government you have over there on the other side of the Atlantic.
/s
We're not all idiots.
A month ago, Ohio voters added reproductive rights to our constitution. Now, abortion is guaranteed to the point of fetal viability. Beyond that point, you just need the medical opinion of a single doctor that the abortion would improve the health of the mother (including her mental health) to secure an abortion.
If this woman gets on a plane to Cleveland this morning, she can be back in Texas tonight, minus a doomed fetus.
Oh I would never say that everyone is an idiot. Just that your system of governance is badly constructed.
It's a beta that went to production.
And the biggest bugs aren't being patched.
It was a temporary solution thats now the foundation
Didn’t Texas make it illegal to go out of state to get around their bans?
Yes, it is S.B 8. It is a completely messed up bill that allows anyone to sue someone for $10,000, plus court and attorney fees, for performing an abortion or aiding or abetting in an abortion. In other words, if someone gets an abortion, anyone can sue them, their doctor, the nurses, the Uber driver who took them to the clinic, their husband who agreed with their decision, or anyone else who could be said to have helped them get an abortion.
One bit of good news is that, in one case, a judge decided that you need to have standing to sue. That means that in order to sue someone under the law, you need to be personally affected by the abortion.
San Antonio judge Aaron Hass dismissed Gomez’ case Thursday, and that dismissal pointed to a central problem with S.B. 8: it has the potential to allow the wrong people to wage abortion lawsuits. Hass announced the dismissal of Gomez’s case from the bench and explained that plaintiffs like Gomez, who have no connection to the prohibited abortion and have not been harmed by it, do not have standing suit under the statute.
Ok so not illegal— just too expensive for the poors. Sounds just right for the GOP.
Thanks for the detailed reply!
Aren't Ohio reps fighting the new constitutional amendment and it's not officially in the Constitution even though it should be?
Yes, they are fighting it; no, they have not been able to block it from being added to the constitution. It became effective as of Thursday, December 7th.
Nice! Glad they couldn't block it from being added after 30 days. Hopefully people keep up the fight and get rid of these anti-democracy assholes.
What about a financially poor 14 year old who was raped? She couldn't do that on her own. This woman is challenging the system for others.
In Ohio, she could. No need to even notify her parents let alone gain their consent. That's my point: we aren't all monsters on this side of the Atlantic, even in bright red states like Ohio.
Kansas protected reproductive rights through constitutional referendum. It doesn't get much redder than Kansas.
I don't even think this is Texas or Texans. I think this is Ken Paxton.
We're all fucked
Another stunning example of personal freedom from The Greatest Country on Earth (Trade mark. Not to be used in comparison to any other nation)
Shit states gonna shit state.
I would love to know her voting history.
I just want to know how Sue’s gonna vote now. If she’s changed, it better be for the better.
Ladies and gentlemen: I give you the party of "small governemt".... who apparently feel we're all so incapable of managing our affairs that we need a court appointed magistrate to weigh in on if we should get life-saving medical care... (* golfclap *)
Government small enough to fit in a woman’s uterus.
The answer to this is people can’t move because they’re tied to their fucking job living paycheck to paycheck.
How can you move out when you have a mortgage and you need to sell your house to move? What about your family? Does anyone realize how difficult it is to move your entire family somewhere else?
A real states rights person would support an initiative where every ten years there's a jubilee where you can get reimbursed to move to a better state. That would finally start to allow the "vote with your feet" thing to give the "laboratories of democracy" the feedback they need.
That means it's impossible.
The fun part about these cases challenging abortion is, if the courts delay them long enough they can dismiss them for lack of standing.
The cruelty is the point.
I can't fathom how my relatives under 50 still remain in texas.
They basically hate women, and want to push vindictive bullshit - even if this woman is afforded agency over her own body, Paxton has said he'll sue the docs nurses and medical center.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/08/ken-paxton-texas-abortion-kate-cox?fbclid=IwAR2Api0ssTqcPh9G-I1FxVEFA17zwK4AK9Yya_xOIKa8mkOa1o57GtED0gM
They took books about slavery out of the plantation gift shop. https://lemm.ee/post/17334830
I remember Ann Richards, what the fuck, Texas.... what the actual fuck.
Gerrymandering is cool, aint it?
If people who disagree with the Republicans always leave, then the Republicans will be unopposed and will always win. This is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Children growing up in Texas can see first-hand the intentional cruelty of the ruling party, and I believe that is why the GOP will eventually lose, and their only chance for the near future is unlawfully seizing power.
In a vacuum you're not wrong, but the real-world implication is that you're asking parents to willingly subject their children to the cruelty of the GOP to maybe have a chance of changing it in the future.
Do children have to be in a school shooting to know that they shouldn't happen? Do they have to see their classmate forced to carry their rapist's baby to know that abortion should be allowed in at least some circumstances? Do they have to freeze with no power to learn that a privatized power grid will always prioritize its profits over their health?
sorry ain't sticking around in shittsville so I can help Ted Cruz get reelected again, not my fucking hobby eh?
you do you.
running out the clock, denying this woman justice and forcing her to suffer just for suffering's sake. remember this in november. they'll try to pretend they've softened their position, they'll talk about reasonable exceptions, they'll pretend they're just here to defend a little life but at the end of the day the republican party platform is to identify people they consider substandard and cause them as much pain and suffering a possible. it's the common thread behind everything they try to do.
Never underestimate the cruelty, misogyny, arrogance, of the GOP.
Hey conservatives…. Remember this when you are trying to argue that your shit political party has any compassion at all.
Nah, they dropped that line a while back. Their current mantra is screw you I got mine.
They’ve been busy doubling down lately. Pretty sure their latest slogan is Under His Eye.
"but mama under whose eye?"
"Never you mind that Jimmy, now eat your oatmeal and finish cleaning your sidearm, we got to go to the mall today"
What a reasonable government you have over there on the other side of the Atlantic.
/s
We're not all idiots.
A month ago, Ohio voters added reproductive rights to our constitution. Now, abortion is guaranteed to the point of fetal viability. Beyond that point, you just need the medical opinion of a single doctor that the abortion would improve the health of the mother (including her mental health) to secure an abortion.
If this woman gets on a plane to Cleveland this morning, she can be back in Texas tonight, minus a doomed fetus.
Oh I would never say that everyone is an idiot. Just that your system of governance is badly constructed.
It's a beta that went to production.
And the biggest bugs aren't being patched.
It was a temporary solution thats now the foundation
Didn’t Texas make it illegal to go out of state to get around their bans?
Yes, it is S.B 8. It is a completely messed up bill that allows anyone to sue someone for $10,000, plus court and attorney fees, for performing an abortion or aiding or abetting in an abortion. In other words, if someone gets an abortion, anyone can sue them, their doctor, the nurses, the Uber driver who took them to the clinic, their husband who agreed with their decision, or anyone else who could be said to have helped them get an abortion.
One bit of good news is that, in one case, a judge decided that you need to have standing to sue. That means that in order to sue someone under the law, you need to be personally affected by the abortion.
More good news is that the law has been challenge before the Texas supreme court. They have heard the case in in coming weeks or months they will make a decision.
Ok so not illegal— just too expensive for the poors. Sounds just right for the GOP.
Thanks for the detailed reply!
Aren't Ohio reps fighting the new constitutional amendment and it's not officially in the Constitution even though it should be?
Yes, they are fighting it; no, they have not been able to block it from being added to the constitution. It became effective as of Thursday, December 7th.
Nice! Glad they couldn't block it from being added after 30 days. Hopefully people keep up the fight and get rid of these anti-democracy assholes.
What about a financially poor 14 year old who was raped? She couldn't do that on her own. This woman is challenging the system for others.
In Ohio, she could. No need to even notify her parents let alone gain their consent. That's my point: we aren't all monsters on this side of the Atlantic, even in bright red states like Ohio.
Kansas protected reproductive rights through constitutional referendum. It doesn't get much redder than Kansas.
I don't even think this is Texas or Texans. I think this is Ken Paxton.
We're all fucked
Another stunning example of personal freedom from The Greatest Country on Earth (Trade mark. Not to be used in comparison to any other nation)
Shit states gonna shit state.
I would love to know her voting history.
I just want to know how Sue’s gonna vote now. If she’s changed, it better be for the better.