Jellyfins pretty great. It's much simpler than Plex and has quite a few less features, but it does what it does really well
What are some missing features? I'm only familiar with jellyfin
Iirc Plex supports transcoding for downloads, while Jellyfin only allows downloading the original file. But I've heard transcoding downloads is broken on Plex, so ymmv.
Intro skip is only available as a plugin on Jellyfin.
Also, Findroid has a better ui and supports downloads, while the official app has more features (ie. settings/admin panel).
Didn't know about findroid, looks cool
I'll probably keep both installed
They have both good usecases. I have findroid installed on my families devices since all they need is just playing media. It is great for that.
I myself have both because I can administrate the server from my phone via the official app. I also use mostly findroid for watching my media.
Findroid keeps saying it's not supported on my Pixel 7 for some reason
Thats because if you get it from f-droid, it is on Izzy's repo and there only the 32 bit version is available. The Pixel 7 is 64 but only.
I have the same issue, solved it by using obtainium and getting the package directly from their github.
Sure enough, that fixed it, thanks.
What's the deal with devs not keeping up with FDroid repos?
Whilst some might not find it a huge deal, not being able to shuffle all episodes of a specific TV show is a deal breaker for me. I do have Jellyfin deployed and configured, ready to go for when the feature arrives.
Plex feels a lot more polished as well, but I can get over that.
I shuffled all episodes of a show on jellyfin yesterday FYI. Not sure when it was rolled out.
Yep. It's there for me on the Android app.
Also on Roku with a recent update
The latest roku updates have it. Unsure about the browser capability. I wouldassumed it has it.
That feature exists on several Jellyfin clients. Which client in particular have you been using that lacks it?
Thanks for letting me know (and to the others that did as well). I might be able to jump sooner than anticipated, I'll check my client tonight for the feature. I'm using it on the Apple TV, I think its the Swiftfin flavour of the client.
As a side note, it sure is a refreshing change to not be downvoted into oblivion for simply having out of date information and respectfully informed in the comments.
If you're on AppleTV, another client worth checking out is Infuse, which is a paid app that has a Jellyfin intrgration. Swiftfin is quite a bit newer so it might still be less feature-complete.
Sadly in the 4 years I'm using it jellyfin still couldn't figure out how to correctly display series season covers and has some streaming bugs (no audio when audio is DTS and PGS subs are enabled ect)
You should redo your org from scratch and let all the default plugins do the work. Mine looks great and I never changed anything, just followed the recommended file org pattern for Movies and TV Shows.
Exactly. 99% of these issues are not naming the files as Jellyfin needs, which I understand can be annoying if you have a large number of files to move to it. And having the right access permissions for files, if you are on Linux.
Filebot is nice for that, it is what I used when I first got into Plex and realized the reason I had so many problems is because of the way I named files. This was before I even knew Sonarr and Radarr existed, now you can get them to do it.
The lifetime license is definitely declining in value.
Agreed, but we probably all knew it had to decline at some point. Nothing is really free.
I'm just glad I feel like I definitely got my money's worth. Feb 2014 is when I got it. So 10 years, 75$. I cant complain 😂
Jellyfin really is free :p
I'm not really sure what you're implying here
You said nothing is really free.
Sorry, why are we switching away from Plex because of this? Genuinely asking.
It's in the second paragraph. This is the beginning of the monetization for everything in Plex now that they have a good user base. They are starting to ramp up the milking.
It will become like any other shitty streaming service eventually.
And? As long as I can watch my content, why should I care? It's a business with employees and they need to make money somehow.
If you cannot comprehend why people are outraged at a product they used getting degraded, not sure what to tell you.
It still does what it did when I started using it. What's the problem?
I’m old enough to have not trusted Plex since the original XBMC split.
I still have an original Xbox with Xbmc on it lol
Yeah I think I do too in the attic somewhere. Mid chips on those things where a bitch back then when it first started up. I think they got better though.
007 Nightfire softmod all the way.
They made a software jailbreak?!?!
So I just looked this up and I have Splinter Cell and MechAssault. I may have to dig that thing out and give this a try.
My man.
I was trying to think how Plex thinks this is going to play out, knowing that this move will piss off their customer base. Then I realized, this isn't a play for Plex's existing customer base. This is a play for their customer's "friends and family" that are enjoying shared libraries already.
Their 'customer' base has for many many years been developing a large user base of technologically naive people with Plex apps installed who could never run their own server. If Plex knows, for example, that for every paying customer there's three other users pulling from someone's library, that's a huge opportunity for them to convert those users to paying customers.
Everyone that set up a Plex server and then shared it with your tech-phobic parents, cousins, friends, etc... We made this possible.
I don't like it but I can't argue with the logic from Plex here.
-edit- Tightened up the grammar.
Is that bad though? I don't mind renting a movie I really like even if my friend has it on their Plex. Especially if it's from a small studio. Currently I do that via Google TV. Plex Inc being a small private company might use the money better than a publicly traded giant. I wouldn't mind my friends and family spending a few bucks on it either.
Of course if Plex starts enshitifying existing private streaming features to push this, that'll be another matter altogether. Which would not be unexpected.
Yeah, I've been switched to using Jellyfin anyways. I hope they can do this successfully. They haven't been the best for a while anyways..
I'll probably trial Jellyfin too in preparation to migrate the family should push come to shove.
It's worth donating if you have the means to. I paid for a lifetime Plex subscription. So, I felt uncomfortable not donating to Jellyfin. They take donations on open collective.
Yikes this is a good theory. Eventually we will be snuffed out. Sharing will stop. Etc.
Not until it's a mandatory popup or recommendation any time you want to watch. Or maybe mandatory ads and popups on "new releases". With Plex, nothing surprises me now.
Well I use Jellyfin as I don't want proprietary software on my system and this isn't making me have any regrets. The benefit of Plex is what again?
Yeah this “pretty major UX refresh” line bothers me A LOT. Kinda like when Amazon fucked up the UX/UI on the cheap fire tv sticks.
It would be great, but no chance in hell movie studios would go along with this.
Imo this is not enshitification yet, but I'm concerned it could pave the way! It all depends on whether they make using your own content harder to promote this, or if it's just a side hustle to add another revenue stream.
i miss old plex (~2016), when it was actually focused on providing local content, good thing jellyfin exist
Time to move to jellyfin I guess
Jellyfins pretty great. It's much simpler than Plex and has quite a few less features, but it does what it does really well
What are some missing features? I'm only familiar with jellyfin
Iirc Plex supports transcoding for downloads, while Jellyfin only allows downloading the original file. But I've heard transcoding downloads is broken on Plex, so ymmv.
Intro skip is only available as a plugin on Jellyfin.
Also, Findroid has a better ui and supports downloads, while the official app has more features (ie. settings/admin panel).
Didn't know about findroid, looks cool
I'll probably keep both installed
They have both good usecases. I have findroid installed on my families devices since all they need is just playing media. It is great for that.
I myself have both because I can administrate the server from my phone via the official app. I also use mostly findroid for watching my media.
Findroid keeps saying it's not supported on my Pixel 7 for some reason
Thats because if you get it from f-droid, it is on Izzy's repo and there only the 32 bit version is available. The Pixel 7 is 64 but only.
I have the same issue, solved it by using obtainium and getting the package directly from their github.
Sure enough, that fixed it, thanks.
What's the deal with devs not keeping up with FDroid repos?
Whilst some might not find it a huge deal, not being able to shuffle all episodes of a specific TV show is a deal breaker for me. I do have Jellyfin deployed and configured, ready to go for when the feature arrives. Plex feels a lot more polished as well, but I can get over that.
I shuffled all episodes of a show on jellyfin yesterday FYI. Not sure when it was rolled out.
Yep. It's there for me on the Android app.
Also on Roku with a recent update
The latest roku updates have it. Unsure about the browser capability. I wouldassumed it has it.
That feature exists on several Jellyfin clients. Which client in particular have you been using that lacks it?
Thanks for letting me know (and to the others that did as well). I might be able to jump sooner than anticipated, I'll check my client tonight for the feature. I'm using it on the Apple TV, I think its the Swiftfin flavour of the client.
As a side note, it sure is a refreshing change to not be downvoted into oblivion for simply having out of date information and respectfully informed in the comments.
If you're on AppleTV, another client worth checking out is Infuse, which is a paid app that has a Jellyfin intrgration. Swiftfin is quite a bit newer so it might still be less feature-complete.
Sadly in the 4 years I'm using it jellyfin still couldn't figure out how to correctly display series season covers and has some streaming bugs (no audio when audio is DTS and PGS subs are enabled ect)
You should redo your org from scratch and let all the default plugins do the work. Mine looks great and I never changed anything, just followed the recommended file org pattern for Movies and TV Shows.
Exactly. 99% of these issues are not naming the files as Jellyfin needs, which I understand can be annoying if you have a large number of files to move to it. And having the right access permissions for files, if you are on Linux.
Filebot is nice for that, it is what I used when I first got into Plex and realized the reason I had so many problems is because of the way I named files. This was before I even knew Sonarr and Radarr existed, now you can get them to do it.
The lifetime license is definitely declining in value.
Agreed, but we probably all knew it had to decline at some point. Nothing is really free.
I'm just glad I feel like I definitely got my money's worth. Feb 2014 is when I got it. So 10 years, 75$. I cant complain 😂
Jellyfin really is free :p
I'm not really sure what you're implying here
You said nothing is really free.
Sorry, why are we switching away from Plex because of this? Genuinely asking.
E: Wow at the downvotes to an honest question. 🥲
See my long winded response here
https://lemmy.ca/comment/6529326
Thanks. I understand this perspective.
So I read it and I still don't see the outrage.
It's in the second paragraph. This is the beginning of the monetization for everything in Plex now that they have a good user base. They are starting to ramp up the milking.
It will become like any other shitty streaming service eventually.
And? As long as I can watch my content, why should I care? It's a business with employees and they need to make money somehow.
If you cannot comprehend why people are outraged at a product they used getting degraded, not sure what to tell you.
It still does what it did when I started using it. What's the problem?
I’m old enough to have not trusted Plex since the original XBMC split.
I still have an original Xbox with Xbmc on it lol
Yeah I think I do too in the attic somewhere. Mid chips on those things where a bitch back then when it first started up. I think they got better though.
007 Nightfire softmod all the way.
They made a software jailbreak?!?! So I just looked this up and I have Splinter Cell and MechAssault. I may have to dig that thing out and give this a try.
My man.
I was trying to think how Plex thinks this is going to play out, knowing that this move will piss off their customer base. Then I realized, this isn't a play for Plex's existing customer base. This is a play for their customer's "friends and family" that are enjoying shared libraries already.
Their 'customer' base has for many many years been developing a large user base of technologically naive people with Plex apps installed who could never run their own server. If Plex knows, for example, that for every paying customer there's three other users pulling from someone's library, that's a huge opportunity for them to convert those users to paying customers.
Everyone that set up a Plex server and then shared it with your tech-phobic parents, cousins, friends, etc... We made this possible.
I don't like it but I can't argue with the logic from Plex here.
-edit- Tightened up the grammar.
Is that bad though? I don't mind renting a movie I really like even if my friend has it on their Plex. Especially if it's from a small studio. Currently I do that via Google TV. Plex Inc being a small private company might use the money better than a publicly traded giant. I wouldn't mind my friends and family spending a few bucks on it either.
Of course if Plex starts enshitifying existing private streaming features to push this, that'll be another matter altogether. Which would not be unexpected.
Yeah, I've been switched to using Jellyfin anyways. I hope they can do this successfully. They haven't been the best for a while anyways..
I'll probably trial Jellyfin too in preparation to migrate the family should push come to shove.
It's worth donating if you have the means to. I paid for a lifetime Plex subscription. So, I felt uncomfortable not donating to Jellyfin. They take donations on open collective.
Yikes this is a good theory. Eventually we will be snuffed out. Sharing will stop. Etc.
The irony is just chefs kiss,
The Slashdot post points to this article https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/18/24043706/plex-store-movies-tv-shows
If its DRM free its not a problem.
Not until it's a mandatory popup or recommendation any time you want to watch. Or maybe mandatory ads and popups on "new releases". With Plex, nothing surprises me now.
Well I use Jellyfin as I don't want proprietary software on my system and this isn't making me have any regrets. The benefit of Plex is what again?
Yeah this “pretty major UX refresh” line bothers me A LOT. Kinda like when Amazon fucked up the UX/UI on the cheap fire tv sticks.
It would be great, but no chance in hell movie studios would go along with this.
Imo this is not enshitification yet, but I'm concerned it could pave the way! It all depends on whether they make using your own content harder to promote this, or if it's just a side hustle to add another revenue stream.
i miss old plex (~2016), when it was actually focused on providing local content, good thing jellyfin exist
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