Memes on c/Games - yes or no?

Quinten@lemmy.worldmod to Games@lemmy.world – 97 points –

Hey all!

Since Lemmy is a new platform with new communities. We as the c/Games community have to decide what we want to be.

The last days I saw several posts with (low) effort memes. Some seem to enjoy it, some report it because they want a more serious discussion on here.

Therefore, I would like to ask you for your opinion: What should happen to memes on this community?

Please take a moment to fill in the poll. It will close on Monday.

https://strawpoll.com/jVyG8VzOGn7

Also feel free to discuss it in the comments!

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No. R/gaming was a clownshow of the same low effort garbage posts. Have a day of the week or push it to another sub.

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I'd rather this sub be more like r/games than r/gaming. News and discussion.

No memes, allowing memes usually ends up in it being the only thing posted instead of discussions.

Plus once you open up that door, it's hard to close it.

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It's better to have a separate subreddit community for memes. Allowing memes will results in this being the only content here.

I like the choice for a single day of the week - seems a good happy medium.

I'm not even sold on the one day a week option. Maybe the mods can do a stickied megathread one day a week and all the memesters can just pile in there and have at it. If the community itself is just going to be flooded with memes one day a week, though, that essentially makes it unusable that day and reduces the overall value of the entire community.

Keep them out altogether or keep them severely constrained so those who don't want anything to do with them can easily ignore them are the only two viable options.

I like this the most. Plus, then we can search for the stickies threads to browse for memes when we’re in the mood, instead of having them all loose everywhere

no thank you, Reddit already became bloated to hell and back via memes being allowed on a lot of forums, let's keep it sanitized and have another community for that.

I voted no. I would prefer this community to be more like r/Games than r/gaming. I would rather the community be about game news, reviews, and discussions.

Allowing a single day of the week will lead to more work on the moderators than a general ban. It also makes the community less usable on those days. I also worry that it will destroy viewing the community by top posts.

I wanted to write a whole paragraph but you summed it up nicely. I'd also add that I'm afraid allowing memes, even on a single day, could be a slippery slope, and that I'd rather keep them on another community.

I’m afraid allowing memes, even on a single day, could be a slippery slope,

yeah, I think trying to make everyone happy with forced coexistence (instead of just having two distinct areas) might actually be likely to only create more friction

Absolutely not. Games on Reddit was a serious news and discussion forum. That's what I'd like to see here. Meme communities can name themselves just that, but this is c/Games, not c/Gaming or c/GameMemes

I love me a good gaming meme, but I would rather this community to stay focused on discussion. There could be a separate community dedicated to gaming related memes so people could have another place to get their fix instead.

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Old Reddit user turned Lemmy here. Memes are fun and all, but they also get out of hand very quickly and we're stuck with a sub with low-effort memes instead of actual discussion/news. Once a month meme day could work though.

Exactly. A space for serious discussion and analysis of games and gaming on Lemmy could have so much potential, and allowing low-effort memes here would undermine that.

The issue I have with memes is that you end up with the same low effort meme posts:

"does anyone remember this forgotten gem? (image of best selling game)"

"When your custom character is in a cutscene"

"You're 12 again, school is over and you're about to play (massively popular game)"

Etc

I feel like maybe there should just be a gaming memes community. For that sort of content.

I actually loved how it was split between /r/gaming as a place for memes and (really, like really really) low effort posts and /r/games for actual news and discussions around games. I would not combine both.

No memes here, please. I actually enjoy them but we can have a separate option elsewhere on lemmy for that.

No, don’t want to see it turn into the equivalent of the Gaming sub on Reddit which is full of low effort, low quality content. I’d much rather it be like r/Games.

Absolutely no memes please. Right now, r/games is easily the subreddit that I miss the most, and it's because it was entirely news and discussion focused. I sincerely hope I can turn to this community for most of my gaming news, and don't want to see an influx of memes.

100% agreed. There was r/gaming for the memes side of things and that place was usually a pretty terrible community (partially because it was a main subreddit). I’d rather have a discussion focused place here.

No, I'd rather have a separate community for game memes (which I myself might also join) and keep things clean here.

No memes imo. R Gaming was a shit fest i’of memba this game!

C/gamingmemes and boom, go wild and you can sun to both instead of ruining the mainline community :)

This is how all new rules should come into place, on every community. By voting by the community.

Either no memes (rather a separate community for that) or something like memes only allowed on one specific day of the week.

So with a little under 3 hours to go it looks like the community has done the right thing and picked no memes at all (by around 120 votes as it currently stands).

Now let's see about blocking photo posts and other low-effort garbage, too, while we're at it.

It's pretty clear from the vote and the comments that we want this to be the equivalent of /r/games - text posts and links only. If someone needs to show off their hall effect stick mod or a photo of some dude flipping the bird, they can do it in a hardware-dedicated or circlejerk community where that kind of thing belongs (respectively).

My first opinion on my not even 2 day old account would be no.

But I'd be OK with a MemeDay as well if the "no meme"s result isn't over 50% in the poll. It can bring a nice bit of variety (even if that same content is available elsewhere).

My dream would be to find the slightly pedantic discussions and review threads of /r/games, and leave memes for other communities.

But I don't think we'll be enough people to do so, merging might be the way to go.

But I don’t think we’ll be enough people to do so

We aren't until we are.

No community springs forth fully-formed. Lemmy's already had one big influx of users after the reddit blackout, and we can expect there to be another wave (to some extent or another) tomorrow after the major apps shut down. Some of those users will certainly have been subscribed to /r/games and not /r/gaming, and are going to want an equivalent community here.

The only way to foster that and let it grow is to enforce the requisite rules that keep the community from turning into a cesspool right at the start. Maybe it'll slow overall growth, but it won't kill it altogether. If that means that /c/Games here doesn't end up as the pre-eminent Lemmy community for games, well, so be it. /r/games was significantly smaller than /r/gaming, but it still thrived.

You know what that's true. There are more than enough memes community on lemmy, I vote to keep this one as discussion focused as possible.

Absolutely not. Just look at the difference between /r/games and /r/gaming. One is a place where people discuss the latest games and gaming news, the other is a place where people post pictures of their old video game cartridges and low effort memes.

I can already find a trillion worthless memes anywhere else. There’s no need to bury useful content under all that noise here.

The pathofexipe sub has a "lazy Sunday" where memes are allowed. I kind of like that solution

I voted for this as a compromise, but would be happiest if it were just like r/Games

I liked what /r/hockey did: there was a different forum for memes, and then the “winner” (top-voted meme at midnight Monday UTC) would get its own thread in the main forum.

No. I want this community to be focused on games discussions. Memes can be posted on c/GamesMemes.

Please no memes.

Also, no posts where someone posts a picture of a game box with the title “just about to start playing this bad boy, wish me luck” or “they don’t make games like this anymore”. It’s just a picture of the game! Why is it here?!?!?

I guess no then it's a shame I like my communitys be a mix of memes and discussions. Hope someone makes a place for gaming memes

I voted no. Reddit has separate subreddits for gaming discussion and gaming memes and I would like it to stay that way here.

It’s definitely a valid question, because Lemmy is going to be just as vulnerable as reddit to the problem of how much quicker low-effort memes accrue upvotes, which naturally results in them drowning out articles and discussion posts. The latter, despite being more interesting and generally “higher-quality”, will always take more time per-user to engage with - so, in systems like this, they naturally fall behind in both pace and volume of upvote.

So, as long as we’re using an upvote system, those need to be split so the articles and discussion posts don’t get drowned out in a sea of easily-consumed and quickly-upvoted low-content posts. I know I would personally really prefer having a proper feedly-style community with a bunch of articles and discussions than another gaming meme one that could basically be a bot linked to an instagram feed.

I actually voted for one day but now that I've thought about it a bit more, I think I'd prefer a /c/games and /c/gamemes or something, just so the people that want the latter have their space all the time. It seems preferable to the friction of trying to share space for both styles of community when we don't actually have to. I think, if we do vote to keep them, we're going to need a /c/gamingdiscussion or something for the actual wordy content.

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Hey all!

Since Lemmy is a new platform with new communities. We as the c/Games community have to decide what we want to be.

The last days I saw several posts with (low) effort memes. Some seem to enjoy it, some report it because they want a more serious discussion on here.

Therefore, I would like to ask you for your opinion: What should happen to memes on this community?

Please take a moment to fill in the poll. It will close on Monday.

https://strawpoll.com/jVyG8VzOGn7

Also feel free to discuss it in the comments!

No memes. If there must be gaming memes let them be in their own place. They're low effort and don't add anything to good conversation.

I absolutely despised the low effort shit in rgaming.

But please please please, if you’re going to accept low effort crap, make people post the title of the game in the post.

To encourage growth, I say yes.

Once we have a ton of users that can keep a discussion going drop the memes and let this become like the Reddit games sub.

Memes are kind of everywhere, and seem to take over everything else around them. They're like an invasive species, really. They're the invasive content of the Internet world.

I say we go meme-less!

Yes. The problem is that if memes are allowed, any community becomes 90% memes or more.

What would a gaming community be without memes

Worth being a part of?

Memes are low-effort garbage. If you want gaming memes, go start up c/GameMemes or something. Leave the main community to discuss the topic instead of clogging it up with this stuff.

Using reddit as the example, /r/games was waaaay better than /r/gaming, because you could actually have a halfway decent conversation about games rather than having to scroll past endless page after page of the stupidest useless crap.