Piracy Shield is indeed brought to us by (soccer) mafia
I mean to be fair they did invent fascism so this law isn't a stretch.
It runs in the family and Italy is all about family
Entertainment industry is literally a mafia so this is on brand.
That's a funny waybto spell "sexual assault".
I bet VPN providers in privacy respecting countries are seeing a large increase in subscribers from Italy now.
Or not. "All VPN and open DNS services must also comply with blocking orders". A VPN provider can't legally sell their services in Italy unless they comply. The best part is: since the govt is blocking websites they can also block providers who doesn't play according to their rules :)
Someone will figure out a way to get around it. People can get a VPN through the great firewall of China, they will get through whatever Italy does as well.
For just a bit more than a VPN subscription, you can rent a VPS and route your traffic through it. Basically, be your own VPN.
Maybe this law will spur innovation and skills in sysadmin, like how people who grew up before smart phones actually had to learn how computers work.
I’m not an Italian citizen and I don’t live there.
Their laws do not apply to me. An Italian citizen or resident can go online and buy vpn service from me. There is not law im subjected to that says I can’t sell vpn services to Italians.
I am both but my other comment is kinda getting ignored lol
I don’t even need a vpn to pirate, it’s business as usual.
All this stuff is just for IPTVs that stream soccer matches because Calcio is the king sport here.
The site posted by OP is kinda useless journalism lol. AirVPN quit just for a reason: they are an Italian company. Mullvad, Proton, Quad9… Business as usual.
An Italian citizen or resident can go online and buy vpn service from me. There is not law im subjected to that says I can’t sell vpn services to Italians.
This isn't true. If you don't comply with the other law regarding the website blocks then the Italian govt will politely ask you to. If your business happens to be on another EU member state they might even try to get your local authorities involved in the asking. Either way, if you don't comply or they can't reach you (cause you're ouside the EU) they'll proceed to block your website / domains in Italy and no more business for you.
Being blocked in Italy would be my worst case scenario.
You may face criminal charges if you’re from another EU country. Or if your business is very large the Italian government gets really interested they may be able to ask other govts for help.
Sure but you'd basically be scamming them as the VPN service wouldn't work because even if you sent them the VPN installer and login it wouldn't connect.
Why wouldn’t it connect?
Unless they block my specific IP address then? It will work. And if they block my ip address, then I can just get a new one pretty easily.
FTA: "The list of IP addresses and domain names to be blocked is drawn up by private bodies authorised by AGCOM"
Edit: You're correct, you could run a VPN on your own server and sell access, as this would only block known VPN services.
Could you buy another VPN through a VPN?
Putting performance aside, you can but still raises some legal and billing questions.
I’ve been using quad 9 dns for years and torrenting without issues.
These laws are made just to make happy the people getting rich with calcio streamings and alike. IPTV and stuff is enforced, for the rest it’s just business as usual
I'm sure your aware but for people who aren't... Only changing your DNS doesn't hide your traffic, only your DNS query. They can't see you are resolving 1337x.to but they CAN see you access 104.31.16.118. This is why a VPN is important as it stops your ISP from seeing all of your traffic.
Yep, good to note for other people. I’m aware but here torrenting is kinda allowed. If you do it for yourself and without any profit motive you can just keep going without any kind of issue
The dns change is just to not have to use proxies to access stuff like libgen and piratebay in my case :)
DNS as a protocol is in general clear text. Your provider can see what you query regardless.
That's why dns-over-https is so important
Root servers don't support that. Nothing would stop governments from telling all ISPs in the country to block all DNS servers that don't comply.
Damn thats an incredible degree of overreach and looks like it gives established companies the power to take down any rising competitions websites without oversight.
It should be cockblocked right at the begining, otherwise it'd be introduced to other EU countries too.
Fucking sports. Sky and DAZN have such a stranglehold on sports. You wanna watch sportball? Pay up.
Professional sports and the companies that own the leagues are a total racket. Makes me hate that it's such a large part of global culture. Support your local minor leagues!
Solution: No sportsball.
That was always the plan!
shocked that a country that elected a fascist with ties to mussolini would do something like this
People should be well aware of expatriates and how to become one as well as having emergency funds for it if their country has signs of turning dystopian
I know it may feel hard leaving your home country for some but would you rather stay and be forced to participate under dystopian laws or leave for a better country
It's not easy to gain entry to another "better" country for most people. You tend to need money, connections, or specialist skills. When people say "well, then I'll just move to another country" they may be unaware of this.
My guy, I'm just trying to pay the bills. I do not have the excess income to fill a go bag.
I learned that I'm essentially trapped in my country without massive amounts of money or a rare skill set. I have neither. I'll just have to ride the fascist wave out if they succeed.
Im going from Brazil to Portugal (not related to politics, only saying), I'm going with the help of my company and still would need around 30x the Brazilian minimum wage for the entire trip. Only to get a house to leave would be 18 to 21x. All of this to still be far away from your family and all of this to sometimes be treated as an alien.
look italy. just stick to what you know
pizza
pasta
mafia
and so on
Piracy Shield is indeed brought to us by (soccer) mafia
I mean to be fair they did invent fascism so this law isn't a stretch.
It runs in the family and Italy is all about family
Entertainment industry is literally a mafia so this is on brand.
That's a funny waybto spell "sexual assault".
I bet VPN providers in privacy respecting countries are seeing a large increase in subscribers from Italy now.
Or not. "All VPN and open DNS services must also comply with blocking orders". A VPN provider can't legally sell their services in Italy unless they comply. The best part is: since the govt is blocking websites they can also block providers who doesn't play according to their rules :)
Someone will figure out a way to get around it. People can get a VPN through the great firewall of China, they will get through whatever Italy does as well.
For just a bit more than a VPN subscription, you can rent a VPS and route your traffic through it. Basically, be your own VPN.
Maybe this law will spur innovation and skills in sysadmin, like how people who grew up before smart phones actually had to learn how computers work.
This is a definite no for moving to italy. They should also be kicked out of the EU for this.
I’m not an Italian citizen and I don’t live there.
Their laws do not apply to me. An Italian citizen or resident can go online and buy vpn service from me. There is not law im subjected to that says I can’t sell vpn services to Italians.
I am both but my other comment is kinda getting ignored lol
I don’t even need a vpn to pirate, it’s business as usual.
All this stuff is just for IPTVs that stream soccer matches because Calcio is the king sport here.
The site posted by OP is kinda useless journalism lol. AirVPN quit just for a reason: they are an Italian company. Mullvad, Proton, Quad9… Business as usual.
This isn't true. If you don't comply with the other law regarding the website blocks then the Italian govt will politely ask you to. If your business happens to be on another EU member state they might even try to get your local authorities involved in the asking. Either way, if you don't comply or they can't reach you (cause you're ouside the EU) they'll proceed to block your website / domains in Italy and no more business for you.
Being blocked in Italy would be my worst case scenario.
You may face criminal charges if you’re from another EU country. Or if your business is very large the Italian government gets really interested they may be able to ask other govts for help.
Sure but you'd basically be scamming them as the VPN service wouldn't work because even if you sent them the VPN installer and login it wouldn't connect.
Why wouldn’t it connect?
Unless they block my specific IP address then? It will work. And if they block my ip address, then I can just get a new one pretty easily.
FTA: "The list of IP addresses and domain names to be blocked is drawn up by private bodies authorised by AGCOM"
Edit: You're correct, you could run a VPN on your own server and sell access, as this would only block known VPN services.
Could you buy another VPN through a VPN?
Putting performance aside, you can but still raises some legal and billing questions.
Not with mullvad it won't
You just have to self-declare you don't live in Italy.
I’ve been using quad 9 dns for years and torrenting without issues.
These laws are made just to make happy the people getting rich with calcio streamings and alike. IPTV and stuff is enforced, for the rest it’s just business as usual
I'm sure your aware but for people who aren't... Only changing your DNS doesn't hide your traffic, only your DNS query. They can't see you are resolving 1337x.to but they CAN see you access 104.31.16.118. This is why a VPN is important as it stops your ISP from seeing all of your traffic.
Yep, good to note for other people. I’m aware but here torrenting is kinda allowed. If you do it for yourself and without any profit motive you can just keep going without any kind of issue
The dns change is just to not have to use proxies to access stuff like libgen and piratebay in my case :)
DNS as a protocol is in general clear text. Your provider can see what you query regardless.
That's why dns-over-https is so important
Root servers don't support that. Nothing would stop governments from telling all ISPs in the country to block all DNS servers that don't comply.
Edit: Missed a word.
Piracy Shield aka The Great Firewall of Italy.
Damn thats an incredible degree of overreach and looks like it gives established companies the power to take down any rising competitions websites without oversight.
It should be cockblocked right at the begining, otherwise it'd be introduced to other EU countries too.
Fucking sports. Sky and DAZN have such a stranglehold on sports. You wanna watch sportball? Pay up.
Professional sports and the companies that own the leagues are a total racket. Makes me hate that it's such a large part of global culture. Support your local minor leagues!
Solution: No sportsball.
That was always the plan!
shocked that a country that elected a fascist with ties to mussolini would do something like this
People should be well aware of expatriates and how to become one as well as having emergency funds for it if their country has signs of turning dystopian
I know it may feel hard leaving your home country for some but would you rather stay and be forced to participate under dystopian laws or leave for a better country
It's not easy to gain entry to another "better" country for most people. You tend to need money, connections, or specialist skills. When people say "well, then I'll just move to another country" they may be unaware of this.
My guy, I'm just trying to pay the bills. I do not have the excess income to fill a go bag.
I learned that I'm essentially trapped in my country without massive amounts of money or a rare skill set. I have neither. I'll just have to ride the fascist wave out if they succeed.
Im going from Brazil to Portugal (not related to politics, only saying), I'm going with the help of my company and still would need around 30x the Brazilian minimum wage for the entire trip. Only to get a house to leave would be 18 to 21x. All of this to still be far away from your family and all of this to sometimes be treated as an alien.
Man, we need mesh networks yesterday. I don't care if it's slow, I just want them to get out of my face.