While y'all are out here hoping for wind, solar, and EVs to take off, I'm here counting the E-ink dubs
Same, the first 13" colour e-ink that doesn't cost more than a single limb I'm so getting if I can swing it. I read digit comic books so much and having it as e-ink is my dream.
Gonna be really useful for solar power builds.
Off grid is gonna explode with ev campers
Why would you punish my innocent budget with filthy ideas like this?
If your gaming setup isn’t ready for the climate crisis, then you’re not going to have a good time.
People need the RTX 5000 for fps.
I need it for super low wattage at 480p, 30fps.
Double-sided phone could be pretty neat.
Some company made one once, back in the early 2010s. I think they released a successor the following year, but neither phone sold well enough to keep going. It would be cool as hell if that were more common, though.
YotoPhone. They also made a version 2 & 3. Unfortunately, Yota went bankrupt.
At the time they've been seen as a gimick, mostly because they were PRed by the government as our local invention and an iphone-killer it wasn't. That's a shame.
There's one active brand still making e-ink phones, both single and doubled screen. It's HiSense. The devices look pretty nice.
What would be cooler is if we could build our own phones, like we can desktops, so it can have exactly the features and specs we want.
There’s nothing technically stopping you from building an android smartphone just the way you like. In fact, there’s extreme modding folks that do things like already. What we really lack is a future-proofed connector standard for component connectivity that just works.
Project Ara, you can find it on the Google Graveyard :)
I know it's not the exact same, but most folding phones are double sided screens on one face. I just don't know how much I'd use it if it was a non-folding style with front and back screens.
There's a brand called HiSense doing exactly that. Look for the A6L model.
If refresh rate and ghosting is reasonable for scrolling I could see myself using it. For movies and games I would just turn on second monitor.
I literally read all day, this would be fantastic.
Books. Visual media has subtitles and usually is something I'm gonna Google further while watching/playing. I mostly consume text based social media and news.
.... fuck I think I just want a newspaper
Much cheaper, no electricity required, no ChatGPT generated clickbait horseshit AND you can kill flies!
I'm seeing a lot of "ai" generated trash in the paper now :(
I feel like this could be a lame drinking game when bored: Is it AI generated or just bad/lazy writers?
Ooh I’d be great at that. I was trying to buy a pan on Amazon (I know…) and I scrolled past the reviews… without reading any of the words, I identified the first review I saw (not the LLM-generated summary, an actual review) as being LLM trash. I immediately said “AI” to my partner and we read it… they laughed when it ended up being OBVIOUS AI trash. I can tell by the shape of how words are laid out at this point apparently hahaha
Almost all of our GUI software was designed with high refresh rate screens in mind, so it can be clunky to use e-ink ones. If we had GUis based on section changing, instead of scrolling, it wouldn't be a problem. On pcs, using the page up and down keys can be a workaround, but on phones, it's complicated.
I say bring back good ol' MS-DOS
Lucky you, it's now FOSS!
I'm very interested for when a price is announced for this
Hopefully it's reasonable
What would you regard as reasonable? If I recall correctly, 800 dollars was the price for the last 13 inch e ink display I saw.
That brings it outside of the reasonable range for most people, I would think.
Am I right in suggesting that e-ink displays remain artificially overpriced because of the company that ultimately owns the patent?
I would seriously consider something like this since my computing job requires me to stare at a light bulb all day. Perhaps there's a demographic that would spring for this in the same way there is for quality chairs.
offices seem like a prime target for e-ink displays while it stays in this expensive early stage
I have assumed prices are high because it's a small market, at least with the current technology.
I dont want these small ones, I want a 55 inch one, so I can just have rotating art on the wall.
I've seen a 36 inch 3-color one, but I can't find the supplier anymore. It's used for signage. I honestly don't know why this isn't a bigger thing for signage.
Slightly smaller than the one I saw, but better colors.
I saw a few of these some years back and I thought, yes its ganna hit the commercial market and we will get better and larger. Then it just fell off into a pit.
Passively displaying any stuff is the holy grail, but we get there step by step.
Soooo glad it's open-source!
The controller, yes. The display itself, no, as far as I can tell.
Any part being open-source is better than nothing!
Damn, I LOVE e-ink screens, I'd love to have almost all my devices using it, I love to read freely without getting eye strain from it. I'd even give away being able to watch videos in my phone for an e-ink screen.
But it seems like I will never be able to use it anywhere besides my cheap second hand ereader... the prices are always astronomically high :( even chinese e-ink tablets are too expensive for me.
It's only 14,000 dollars and my first born female next of kin or better? What a deal!
While y'all are out here hoping for wind, solar, and EVs to take off, I'm here counting the E-ink dubs
Same, the first 13" colour e-ink that doesn't cost more than a single limb I'm so getting if I can swing it. I read digit comic books so much and having it as e-ink is my dream.
Gonna be really useful for solar power builds.
Off grid is gonna explode with ev campers
Why would you punish my innocent budget with filthy ideas like this?
If your gaming setup isn’t ready for the climate crisis, then you’re not going to have a good time.
People need the RTX 5000 for fps.
I need it for super low wattage at 480p, 30fps.
Double-sided phone could be pretty neat.
Some company made one once, back in the early 2010s. I think they released a successor the following year, but neither phone sold well enough to keep going. It would be cool as hell if that were more common, though.
YotoPhone. They also made a version 2 & 3. Unfortunately, Yota went bankrupt.
At the time they've been seen as a gimick, mostly because they were PRed by the government as our local invention and an iphone-killer it wasn't. That's a shame.
There's one active brand still making e-ink phones, both single and doubled screen. It's HiSense. The devices look pretty nice.
What would be cooler is if we could build our own phones, like we can desktops, so it can have exactly the features and specs we want.
There’s nothing technically stopping you from building an android smartphone just the way you like. In fact, there’s extreme modding folks that do things like already. What we really lack is a future-proofed connector standard for component connectivity that just works.
Project Ara, you can find it on the Google Graveyard :)
I know it's not the exact same, but most folding phones are double sided screens on one face. I just don't know how much I'd use it if it was a non-folding style with front and back screens.
There's a brand called HiSense doing exactly that. Look for the A6L model.
If refresh rate and ghosting is reasonable for scrolling I could see myself using it. For movies and games I would just turn on second monitor.
I literally read all day, this would be fantastic. Books. Visual media has subtitles and usually is something I'm gonna Google further while watching/playing. I mostly consume text based social media and news.
.... fuck I think I just want a newspaper
Much cheaper, no electricity required, no ChatGPT generated clickbait horseshit AND you can kill flies!
I'm seeing a lot of "ai" generated trash in the paper now :(
I feel like this could be a lame drinking game when bored: Is it AI generated or just bad/lazy writers?
Ooh I’d be great at that. I was trying to buy a pan on Amazon (I know…) and I scrolled past the reviews… without reading any of the words, I identified the first review I saw (not the LLM-generated summary, an actual review) as being LLM trash. I immediately said “AI” to my partner and we read it… they laughed when it ended up being OBVIOUS AI trash. I can tell by the shape of how words are laid out at this point apparently hahaha
Almost all of our GUI software was designed with high refresh rate screens in mind, so it can be clunky to use e-ink ones. If we had GUis based on section changing, instead of scrolling, it wouldn't be a problem. On pcs, using the page up and down keys can be a workaround, but on phones, it's complicated.
I say bring back good ol' MS-DOS
Lucky you, it's now FOSS!
I'm very interested for when a price is announced for this
Hopefully it's reasonable
What would you regard as reasonable? If I recall correctly, 800 dollars was the price for the last 13 inch e ink display I saw.
That brings it outside of the reasonable range for most people, I would think.
Am I right in suggesting that e-ink displays remain artificially overpriced because of the company that ultimately owns the patent?
I would seriously consider something like this since my computing job requires me to stare at a light bulb all day. Perhaps there's a demographic that would spring for this in the same way there is for quality chairs.
offices seem like a prime target for e-ink displays while it stays in this expensive early stage
I have assumed prices are high because it's a small market, at least with the current technology.
I dont want these small ones, I want a 55 inch one, so I can just have rotating art on the wall.
I've seen a 36 inch 3-color one, but I can't find the supplier anymore. It's used for signage. I honestly don't know why this isn't a bigger thing for signage.
https://newatlas.com/technology/sharp-color-eposters-e-ink-gallery-plus/
Slightly smaller than the one I saw, but better colors.
I saw a few of these some years back and I thought, yes its ganna hit the commercial market and we will get better and larger. Then it just fell off into a pit.
Passively displaying any stuff is the holy grail, but we get there step by step.
Soooo glad it's open-source!
The controller, yes. The display itself, no, as far as I can tell.
Any part being open-source is better than nothing!
Damn, I LOVE e-ink screens, I'd love to have almost all my devices using it, I love to read freely without getting eye strain from it. I'd even give away being able to watch videos in my phone for an e-ink screen.
But it seems like I will never be able to use it anywhere besides my cheap second hand ereader... the prices are always astronomically high :( even chinese e-ink tablets are too expensive for me.
It's only 14,000 dollars and my first born female next of kin or better? What a deal!
How does this compare to the Daylight device?
https://0x0.st/XZMX.webm
https://daylightcomputer.com/
https://x.com/daylightco/status/1793677359490752836