Seems like the way for reddit to "solve" this is to just close bad subs.
But that's easily exploited, if people migrate to other subs and start protesting the sub closures, those subs get worse and they need to be closed...
Oh no, reddit, did you just discover that you relied on your users to make your site good and by screwing them over you've made your entire business unsustainable at scale?
Also, somewhat related, is there a short snappy name for lemmy communities? Some people call them subs out of habit but I don't wanna do that, and "communities" is four whole syllables, and ain't nobody got time for that.
Kbin calls them "magazines", which has the advantage of being only three syllables but has the disadvantage of being a dumb name for them.
Yeah, I don't see anyone adopting "mags" or "zines" either.
I'd adopt "zines" expressly to overuse it, make people cringe and demonstrate just how dumb it sounds. "mags" just makes me think of guns
Zines sounds like something Tom Haverford would come up with.
I have never had a comment make me feel this old.
-Signed, an old man who used to publish zines in the early 90s.
I’m not old enough to have published zines but I am old enough to know what they were, and I think it is actually a pretty apt name for it
Got dem Klips...
"solve"
to make your site good
unsustainable
I think you're misunderstanding reddit's goal. Over the past year, they have been in IPO mode. They don't care about making the site good or attracting a healthy community. They want to cash out and are burning down any structures that are providing any resistance to that.
Hopefully it costs them dearly. Kinda like the whole Tumblr censorship fiasco and drastic fall in value but before they sell it. Put #FuckSpez in the poor house
Why do you care how it turns out financially for reddit? The outcome I'd wish for is that more people come to lemmy
Because I was generally enjoying Reddit before being forced out by the API crap. I'm a creature of habit so tend to dislike change and as much as I'm generally liking Lemmy, I'm having to force myself to not check the app every time I get bored because I'll just see the same posts 20 times in a day thanks to the relatively low level of interaction on the platform currently. Whenever I go looking for tech support online, it's nearly always a reddit post from 2-8 years ago that has the answer but I don't want to spend any amount of time on the site, particularly if I'm on my phone at the time since it means doing that annoying step of having to manually change "www" to "old" to make the site functional and readable. I guess I'm just feeling vengeful at yet another good (or some approximation of) thing ruined by yet another money-grubbing, power-hungry, self-important tosser.
Though I see what you're saying... ish. I think at this point, we aren't going to see a massive influx of users without the death of competing platforms like Reddit since there are enough people either happy to keep taking the punches or think sunshine shines out of Spez's asshole. Frankly, we can do without the second kind of person but the first won't do anything without a certain amount of persuasion and I reckon the sinking of the ol' Reddit ship would be just enough of a toe-capped-boot up the nether regions to persuade.
Edit: grammar whoopsies
You're right, they aren't trying to make something sustainable. I guess I was giving them too much credit when I said that.
The problem they're facing here is that if they can't sustain even the appearance of a functioning site that investors might want to buy, then they fail at that too.
So maybe the best way to fix this is just to ride it out and not close the subs, but if they're just full of users that have finally clocked why mods are needed and that the place sucks now, that's also a bad look.
If the search engines start to realise that it's a cesspit with nothing worth linking to anymore, then that really hits their metrics. I've just realised I really need to get onto downloading my posts and deleting them.
Maybe daddy Elon can pay another $50b to buy Reddit and run that into the ground too.
They don’t care about making the site good or attracting a healthy community.
They never cared about the "healthy" part either, just "big". Reddit has been a cesspool for years and years and years, largely thanks to the moderators.
Well call them.... Cummies
"Any recommendations for good cummies here?"
"I usually start my day just laying in bed and checking out new cummies"
"It's unfortunate that niche cummies don't always have the support needed to stick around. I've seen great cummies wiped away before they could really build any volume up."
"It's so often overlooked, but proper handling of cummies is really what keeps them enjoyable day after day."
Yep, I see no fault with the naming scheme here. Really rolls off the tongue well too. Very palatable. Definitely not absolutely cursed.
Totally not completely cursed, and those example sentences absolutely didn't make me regret being literate.
What the fuck
Subs still works in my mind. Subdirectories of all, or subscriptions… whichever way you want to think of it. I never really thought of subs as short for subreddits though, that was just convenient marketing based of those same terms.
Yeah subs and the mods are the doms, which works for my dyslexic, kinky ass.
I'm honestly surprised I've not seen anyone make that connection for a joke, thanks dyslexia, it's pretty funny.
Commies.
Given the automotive slang term for "transmission", I think this one has a chance
I can't decide if I hate that or love it.
They are called "lemmy communities" or "communities"
"Sublemmies" is cringe and is some weird portmanteau with subreddit which is stupid because I don't know why people are still attached the idea of subreddits since this isn't reddit and "lemmings" which some users like to call lemmy users but I don't agree with that either and "lemmy users" sounds like a better term to use
So many people here are trying to emulate reddit when this isn't reddit, yes some features from reddit would be nice like a group collection of subreddits like multireddits did and post flairs but this still isn't reddit
A short name for communities would be groups. I like to call the users fedizens, as it is not specific to one software.
I like "group" actually. It's short and descriptive.
I mostly call them "cees", ex "The linux cee on .ml"
You're saying it out loud? Who in the world to?
Two gamers in one house! I might even get her to install Fedora on her next gaming PC. She's using me as proof of concept I think...
...and "lemmings" which some users like to call lemmy users but I don't agree with that either and "lemmy users" sounds like a better term to use
This is just how communities work: people will find names for things and other people are reproducing them if they like the term.
Coms?
I've seen "Lemmies", I've also seen "sublemmies" which brings "subs" back on the table imo. Alternatives are /c/s, commus, com's, etc.
I guess "subs" isn't exactly a reddit specific term. I don't even know if it started there tbh.
I've just realised there's nothing wrong with taking some of the language they used, we are after all following the basic link aggregator format.
I remember "subforums" back in the day, so it definitely didn't start with reddit.
I like communities and sublemmies.
Coms/commus sounds forced and unnecessary, doubt it’ll catch on.
As for Lemmies, I think that should be a synonym for instances/servers. So, for example, the biggest Lemmy with the most sublemmies would be lemmy.world.
And of course, the users are lemmings.
“Communes”, populated by “commies”?
@Obi /c/s is not long (albeit a bit complicated to write, on phone at least) and it could easily be expanded verbally, so you know that /c/s = communities.
On Friendica, everything that is not a person or a page is displayed as a group. As a Facebook alternative, it does make sense, but for you in the Lemmy world I imagine it would sound a bit bland. 😁
I'd like the name to be "community feed" and "feeds" for short. Reddit was always essentially a collective rss with voting weights. In this way "subs" would still work since one subscribes to the feeds.
Ultimately it's something the devs need to encourage though
Seems like the way for reddit to "solve" this is to just close bad subs.
But that's easily exploited, if people migrate to other subs and start protesting the sub closures, those subs get worse and they need to be closed...
Oh no, reddit, did you just discover that you relied on your users to make your site good and by screwing them over you've made your entire business unsustainable at scale?
Also, somewhat related, is there a short snappy name for lemmy communities? Some people call them subs out of habit but I don't wanna do that, and "communities" is four whole syllables, and ain't nobody got time for that.
Kbin calls them "magazines", which has the advantage of being only three syllables but has the disadvantage of being a dumb name for them.
Yeah, I don't see anyone adopting "mags" or "zines" either.
I'd adopt "zines" expressly to overuse it, make people cringe and demonstrate just how dumb it sounds. "mags" just makes me think of guns
Zines sounds like something Tom Haverford would come up with.
I have never had a comment make me feel this old.
-Signed, an old man who used to publish zines in the early 90s.
I’m not old enough to have published zines but I am old enough to know what they were, and I think it is actually a pretty apt name for it
Got dem Klips...
I think you're misunderstanding reddit's goal. Over the past year, they have been in IPO mode. They don't care about making the site good or attracting a healthy community. They want to cash out and are burning down any structures that are providing any resistance to that.
Hopefully it costs them dearly. Kinda like the whole Tumblr censorship fiasco and drastic fall in value but before they sell it. Put #FuckSpez in the poor house
Why do you care how it turns out financially for reddit? The outcome I'd wish for is that more people come to lemmy
Because I was generally enjoying Reddit before being forced out by the API crap. I'm a creature of habit so tend to dislike change and as much as I'm generally liking Lemmy, I'm having to force myself to not check the app every time I get bored because I'll just see the same posts 20 times in a day thanks to the relatively low level of interaction on the platform currently. Whenever I go looking for tech support online, it's nearly always a reddit post from 2-8 years ago that has the answer but I don't want to spend any amount of time on the site, particularly if I'm on my phone at the time since it means doing that annoying step of having to manually change "www" to "old" to make the site functional and readable. I guess I'm just feeling vengeful at yet another good (or some approximation of) thing ruined by yet another money-grubbing, power-hungry, self-important tosser.
Though I see what you're saying... ish. I think at this point, we aren't going to see a massive influx of users without the death of competing platforms like Reddit since there are enough people either happy to keep taking the punches or think sunshine shines out of Spez's asshole. Frankly, we can do without the second kind of person but the first won't do anything without a certain amount of persuasion and I reckon the sinking of the ol' Reddit ship would be just enough of a toe-capped-boot up the nether regions to persuade.
Edit: grammar whoopsies
You're right, they aren't trying to make something sustainable. I guess I was giving them too much credit when I said that.
The problem they're facing here is that if they can't sustain even the appearance of a functioning site that investors might want to buy, then they fail at that too.
So maybe the best way to fix this is just to ride it out and not close the subs, but if they're just full of users that have finally clocked why mods are needed and that the place sucks now, that's also a bad look.
If the search engines start to realise that it's a cesspit with nothing worth linking to anymore, then that really hits their metrics. I've just realised I really need to get onto downloading my posts and deleting them.
Maybe daddy Elon can pay another $50b to buy Reddit and run that into the ground too.
They never cared about the "healthy" part either, just "big". Reddit has been a cesspool for years and years and years, largely thanks to the moderators.
Well call them.... Cummies
"Any recommendations for good cummies here?"
"I usually start my day just laying in bed and checking out new cummies"
"It's unfortunate that niche cummies don't always have the support needed to stick around. I've seen great cummies wiped away before they could really build any volume up."
"It's so often overlooked, but proper handling of cummies is really what keeps them enjoyable day after day."
Yep, I see no fault with the naming scheme here. Really rolls off the tongue well too. Very palatable. Definitely not absolutely cursed.
Totally not completely cursed, and those example sentences absolutely didn't make me regret being literate.
What the fuck
Subs still works in my mind. Subdirectories of all, or subscriptions… whichever way you want to think of it. I never really thought of subs as short for subreddits though, that was just convenient marketing based of those same terms.
Yeah subs and the mods are the doms, which works for my dyslexic, kinky ass.
I'm honestly surprised I've not seen anyone make that connection for a joke, thanks dyslexia, it's pretty funny.
Commies.
Given the automotive slang term for "transmission", I think this one has a chance
I can't decide if I hate that or love it.
They are called "lemmy communities" or "communities"
"Sublemmies" is cringe and is some weird portmanteau with subreddit which is stupid because I don't know why people are still attached the idea of subreddits since this isn't reddit and "lemmings" which some users like to call lemmy users but I don't agree with that either and "lemmy users" sounds like a better term to use
So many people here are trying to emulate reddit when this isn't reddit, yes some features from reddit would be nice like a group collection of subreddits like multireddits did and post flairs but this still isn't reddit
A short name for communities would be groups. I like to call the users fedizens, as it is not specific to one software.
I like "group" actually. It's short and descriptive.
I mostly call them "cees", ex "The linux cee on .ml"
You're saying it out loud? Who in the world to?
Two gamers in one house! I might even get her to install Fedora on her next gaming PC. She's using me as proof of concept I think...
This is just how communities work: people will find names for things and other people are reproducing them if they like the term.
Coms?
I've seen "Lemmies", I've also seen "sublemmies" which brings "subs" back on the table imo. Alternatives are /c/s, commus, com's, etc.
I guess "subs" isn't exactly a reddit specific term. I don't even know if it started there tbh.
I've just realised there's nothing wrong with taking some of the language they used, we are after all following the basic link aggregator format.
I remember "subforums" back in the day, so it definitely didn't start with reddit.
I like communities and sublemmies.
Coms/commus sounds forced and unnecessary, doubt it’ll catch on.
As for Lemmies, I think that should be a synonym for instances/servers. So, for example, the biggest Lemmy with the most sublemmies would be lemmy.world.
And of course, the users are lemmings.
“Communes”, populated by “commies”?
@Obi /c/s is not long (albeit a bit complicated to write, on phone at least) and it could easily be expanded verbally, so you know that
/c/s = communities.On Friendica, everything that is not a person or a page is displayed as a group. As a Facebook alternative, it does make sense, but for you in the Lemmy world I imagine it would sound a bit bland. 😁
@Excrubulent
I'd like the name to be "community feed" and "feeds" for short. Reddit was always essentially a collective rss with voting weights. In this way "subs" would still work since one subscribes to the feeds.
Ultimately it's something the devs need to encourage though
Coms?
what about munie(s)?