Conservatives tried to force all schools in California to out trans kids. They just failed.

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Conservatives tried to force all schools in California to out trans kids. They just failed. - LGBTQ Nation
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In high school, I had friends that were beaten by their parents for coming out as gay. It seems like that's gotten extremely rare in the past decade outside of creepy religious folks - I hope that eventually trans folk can come out as openly trans without facing retribution but we're just not fucking there yet and it should be an individual's choice as to when to do it anyways...

So uh, fuck conservatives. I guess that's the point of my ramble. Fuck Conservatives.

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My general thought is that conservatives just lack the ability to empathize to the same extent that liberals do - whether genetically or due to their upbringing, they just have "us vs. the other" deeply ingrained.

My favorite example of this was Dick Cheney, who had an oddly socially liberal stance on gay marriage... and, coincidentally, had a gay daughter.

I mean it’s the same with racist assholes end up having mixed grandchildren. Flips them completely From what I’ve seen

What do you think conservators are so terrified of college and education in general? Familiarity and experience breeds acceptance. When you get to know people of other backgrounds and other experiences another lifestyles you begin empathize with them. It's as antithetical to conservatism as you can get. Conservatism only flourishes in the dark. Only in small ignorant closed off communities can conservatism grow. A lot like mold really.

I wonder if this is something unique to millennials. I firmly believe schools shouldn't have to disclose anything regarding a student's sexuality or gender identity to the parents, because I remember how intolerant and downright brutal parents were to their LGBT kids when I was in high school. I prefer to let the school and teachers keep things from parents, because I don't trust conservative parents to not abuse their children.

Ayup, before millenials the queer kids would just stay in the closet for self preservation but we were right on the border where kids wanted to express themselves but occasionally ate a lot of pain for it. I hope it was just a millennial thing (for sexual orientation at least) because it fucking sucked... and I hope the same thing happening to trans kids is mostly just a Gen Z and Alpha thing because that also fucking sucks.

The parents in this case are Gen X aren't they? That makes sense I guess since it's a 50/50 split generation on liberal and conservative. I'd be extremely surprised to see the children of millennials having this problem though. Millennials have been an unusual generation because they haven't been becoming more conservative

It's pretty common for families to skip a generation especially in developed countries - if you're having kids in your thirties it's extremely unlikely you'll be in adjacent generations since those are usually defined as 15 years long. So most millenials had Boomer parents while Gen Z mostly have Gen X parents. Bear in mind that gender role fuzzing mostly entered pop culture with Gen X.

When the "Won't You Think About The Children" crowd thinks about the children.

Conservatives thinking about children seems to always lead to abuse of some kind

End child marriage in the U.S.? You might be surprised at who's opposed

No, I really wouldn't be.

Yep. If it's something cartoonishly evil, you can bet your ass it's conservatives doing it and then blaming everybody else

Or doing it and claiming it's actually a good thing.

True, and it's usually both at the same time – if they do it it's good, but when they claim The Enemy (ie. anyone left of the Strasserites) does it it's bad.

Straight up, there isn’t anything anyone could be opposed to or for at this juncture in time that would actually surprise me. Social media, advertising, and grifts have broken our consensus reality and we desperately need that context to to function as a society

Is there a crime being committed to children?

Republicans: Legalize it

Are adults doing stuff in their bedrooms that you don't approve of?

Republicans: We need to ban this.

I think they have children on their minds too damn often. I have five kids, and I don't think about kids as much as they do!

Normally my mood and vernacular would call for liberal use of the word "fucking", but wherever I might naturally put it in that comment, it would be too on the fucking nose.

Q: Why are conservatives obsessed with children and calling other groups, like cross-dressers, pedophiles?

A: For the purposes of lmisdirection and obfuscation - conservatives are the pedophiles. Why else would they want to burrow into strange children’s lives, if not to abuse them?

Now, I'm not saying that these people should be kicked in the nads. I'm just saying, what's the argument for not kicking them in the nads?

Well there’s nothing in the constitution that says we cannot kick them in the nads.

For the SCOTUS textualists: there is a rich history and tradition if kicking a*holes in the nads going back before this country was founded.

The cops are on their side.

I'd like for them to also get a quick, sharp kick to the nads. Just make sure to explain why they're being punished during or immediately after, otherwise the training isn't effective.

IDK why they still haven’t made a LGBTQ+ amendment to the constitution so that attempts like this are shot down immediately.

That would mean staking a firm position, rather than blowing wherever the current wind takes them.

This isn't good news, it's TERRIFYING!

To try this in California shows just how confident they are in their goal; and they're not wrong. Bills designed to deliberately and cruelly harm trans youth are getting written into law all over the world. They're winning more than they're losing.

This isn't the time to celebrate, it is the time to ATTACK the bigots. Utterly destroy their means of harming vulnerable people. Make their hatred illegal, call out every single anti-LGBTQ2+ bigot who has been convicted of a crime. Scream their hypocrisy from the rooftops. Organize. Protest. Fight. Win. And then fight again, because that is sure as hell what they're doing.

They tried their best and failed miserably. The lesson here is never try.

Wrong. Wrong wrong WRONG!

Theu didn't fail! Getting on the ballot would have been nice for them, but it was a long shot and absolutely not going to pass.

This is just a shot across the bow - a first step towards socializing these changes in one of the most opposed states. They'll keep at it for a few years and get on the ballot but fail. Then they'll do it again and again, and gain traction at every step.

They're 'failing forward,' relentlessly marching forward, and laughing when people cheer over a small (deliberate) stumble.

I wonder if hackers could find and distribute porn consumption details for the politicians pushing shit like this?