Yes, as opposed to his super progressive stances he's had up until this point... He's always been a complete fascist, thankfully for us he was just too dumb to fully capitalize on it while in office.
Trump isn't a fascist. His supporters are. He just says whatever they want to hear 🤷♂️
Trump understood that, or at least his handlers and now he's milking the fuck outta 'em.
He's not fascist, he just says fascist things and encourages his followers to act in fascist ways.
If it looks like shit and smells like shit ... It's definitely not roses
The Trump Administration is correctly aligned with Fascism. Several U.S. Presidents were also Fascist, the previous being the Reagan Administration.
Wait, FDR is a left communist? He was a social democrat. There's a joke about how the New Deal saved capitalism. Who the fuck made this?
They're using the ol' Political Cumpiss Memes plot chart.
PCM was 100% idiots and fascists. It would make a lot of sense that they'd create something so dumb.
He wasn't even really a social democrat, to be honest. He bowed to the pressure of the socialist party at the time to prevent an actual fucking revolution (even if it would have been unsuccessful). Fdr understood that actual socialism would come knocking at the door if he didn't capitulate. Clearly the best president we've had (in economic terms) in the mostly modern era, but he wasn't as progress as people believe.
Edit
Also, tf is a "left" communist in this context? That's not generally a term used, and when it is, it's normally to point out the distinction between anarchists and Marxists, as in Lenin's "left-wing communism."
Is this chart claiming FDR was an anarcho-communist? Because... No. LMAO
Fdr understood that actual socialism would come knocking at the door if he didn't capitulate.
Sounds like a textbook social democrat to me. Recognizing that social programs were necessary to prevent unrest is a likely reason that people from a wealthy political dynasty would support them. It's why both Roosevelts were so successful. They had their fingers on America's pulse and appealed to the white working class. They appealed on one hand, to their economic frustrations, breaking up monopolies and funding programs that helped people in desperate need. On the other hand, they appealed to nationalism and bigotry with Teddy's imperialism and FDR's alienation of ethnic groups like Japanese and Mexican American citizens.
The Democrats right now can't really use the same strategy, as they have a diverse coalition that wouldn't be down with that internal bigotry, while the white working class have embraced fascism because bigotry has been such a big part of their culture. The Democratic base is made of people who reject bigotry. That's the key value they all share. They are certainly more left wing economically than Republicans, but there are plenty of neoliberal Democrats that contribute big campaign dollars and reliable votes who the Dems don't want to alienate.
These Democrats are selfish pricks that want to keep their privilege, but not descend into fascism. Maybe it's because they're a minority that'll lose their privilege under fascism. Maybe they recognize that fascism is volatile and bad for long term business. Whatever the case, they aren't willing to give up their privilege to make a better world.
You are looking at the lean, a social democrat would show a lean toward communism.
That's like saying oranges are basically apples. They aren't even claiming to strive for communism. Unlike democratic socialists who want to achieve a state of communism, social democracy is the end goal. The end goal is to have the government clean up where capitalism fails, but still keep capitalism and private property around. You could make the argument that all socialists are communists, but social democrats fundamentally aren't. It shows that you have no idea what communism is. Communism is not "government does stuff." It's an unrealized political ideal that is not about the state dominating everything. In fact, plenty of communists are anti-state.
I don't think you understand what a political leanings is.
A system for understanding political leanings that classifies anti-communist southerners like LBJ as left communists is not an accurate one. Leanings like right or left are general enough to make sense, but terms like communist or liberal are more definitive ideologies. Whoever made this list either has no actual expertise in politics or is trying to push some sort of agenda. There has never been a socialist president, let alone a communist one.
How the hell was Johnson a communist?!
Leans that way based on policies and speeches.
I'm aware, you should send that to Puppy as they seem to be the one who's confused. Why'd you reply to me with that?
Oh no, I'm not confused. I'm serious. You're the only one confused here.
Trump isn't a fascist. He's a fucking idiot.
You seem to think he is a mastermind with a superplan.
Laughable. He's a fucking moron that doesn't stand for anything beside money. If the easier side to manipulate were liberals, he would be a full blown out socialist.
The guy is leading the flock of sheep that drive in the most money. End of the story. Stop pretending he even knows and understand what hes saying.
Holy shit you are blind if you think Trump is a genius
You seem to think he is a mastermind with a superplan.
Holy shit you are blind if you think Trump is a genius
Where the hell are you getting this idea from? Why are you implying that in order for him to be a fascist he has to be a genius with a super plan? Did you miss my initial comment you replied to saying he was too dumb? Most fascists are in fact, quite dumb. That's typically how they end up being fascists. He's a fucking moron, who happens to be a fascist.
You can be both a fascist and an idiot. The two do not oppose one another.
Trump is the 45th president. How do you make a list like this and ignore the only black president you ever had.
Well I disagree. You seem to suggest he is a mastermind and has a plan.
He doesn't. He's an idiot. He just say to whichever side is the easiest side to convince whatever they want to hear and they'll go with it.
If that make him a fascist, for you, so be it. I don't care I'm not here to defend Trump, of all the people lol.
I just disagree that he stand for anything. He's an idiot manipulated by bigger fish like Putin and whoever he own money to.
Who says fascists need to believe what they say?
Or that they need to be smart?
Fascism is not a coherent ideology. So the fact Trump says/does incoherent shit to maintain his power is actually evidence that he may be a fascist rather than evidence against it. This guy has no idea what he’s talking about.
My man out here is really "well actually-ing" fascism.
"Trump isn't fascist he just says and does fascist things."
Seriously?
Okay, since you're already here: how does it feel to be the dumbest person I know?
He's not not a fascist.
What's the difference? It's a democracy. There's some level of circularity between the people who vote for a candidate and the candidate themselves.
He's literally pro-dictatorship. Loves the way North Korea is ruled: with absolute authority and with harsh punishments for anyone who disobeys their ruler.
The man is furious that his presidency did not grant him that. If he is elected a second time, he will aim towards dismantling democracy for his own gain.
Yea I assume if he did win, his next step would be to dismantle presidential term limits. "Hey just make me emporer"
What protections are in place if any to actually prevent someone from doing that?
The 22nd Amendment, so it's in the Constitution. Unfortunately the current Supreme Court would probably find a way to hugely misinterpret it.
God I hope there's a good answer to this question.
Well... sort of.
Trump never has held and never will hold any coherent political views of any sort. His entire focus is on himself, and the rest of the world only matters to the degree that he might manipulate people and things to feed his own ego, greed and lust.
So what'll likely actually happen is that his mindless supporters will rage, the psychopaths who want the world that having him in power will bring will fan the flames of that rage while whispering in his ear, and yes - he'll go full fascist. But not because of anything to do with fascism specifically - I doubt he can even grasp the broadest concept of it. It's simply that that will be, and to some notable degree will be contrived into being, the thing that he will believe will lead him to what he really wants - simply to feed his bottomless ego, greed and lust.
He understands fascism instinctively, not in an intellectual sense.
Fascism is a lot like a government run by a toddler: Everyone who doesn't like me is bad and I should kill them. Also people who are weird are bad and we should kill them. And that land over there is mine so I'm gonna take it. All the while I'm going to complain about how I'm the real victim.
Bear Head by Adrian Tchaikovsky delves into this kind of psychology from the interesting angle of treating Narcissistic Sociopaths as an alien form of consciousness. It proposes that sociopaths hijack human social interactions, turning others into mere appendages that carry out the sociopath's desires.
He does hold coherent political views. If political views are those having to do with the allocation of resources, then you outlined them yourself. He wants to further his own ego, greed, and lust. He thinks the government should exist to fulfill his every desire, and that all resources should go towards fulfilling them. He's the ultimate embodiment of corruption, with no guiding philosophy beyond selfishness. That is political, because wanting the world to bend to one's own will through the use of government is political. It's a kind of God-Emperor political philosophy.
He already did for quite a while now.
That’s a take out of left field. No one could have seen it coming. /s
If Trump is representing the GOP, Biden wins with 80% of the vote and the Democrats end up with a near super-majority in the House and Senate. More than enough to impeach and remove members of the Supreme Court.
Yes. And obviously Hillary would landslide this buffoon
No, Hillary was the worst candidate to face someone like Trump. The GOP spent 30 years turning the public on her.
I think you left out the part where Democrats grow spines.
Stop, you’re making me horny
Are you seriously here asking for money? That page looks like it was set up by someone who learned web development by taking a YouTube video course.
This is the unpaywalled version of the page viewed through a proxy.. Sorry it has that big ad there, but it's better than the alternative of not seeing the content.
what is that headline typeface, and is there anything i can do to un-see it?
i think john maynard keynes wrote something about it being ok to have a few serifs on a steady stream of glyphs, but it becomes problematic when the glyphs are but bubbles on a whirpool of serifs
Yes, as opposed to his super progressive stances he's had up until this point... He's always been a complete fascist, thankfully for us he was just too dumb to fully capitalize on it while in office.
Trump isn't a fascist. His supporters are. He just says whatever they want to hear 🤷♂️
Trump understood that, or at least his handlers and now he's milking the fuck outta 'em.
He's not fascist, he just says fascist things and encourages his followers to act in fascist ways.
If it looks like shit and smells like shit ... It's definitely not roses
Something something walks something talks something something duck
The Trump Administration is correctly aligned with Fascism. Several U.S. Presidents were also Fascist, the previous being the Reagan Administration.
Wait, FDR is a left communist? He was a social democrat. There's a joke about how the New Deal saved capitalism. Who the fuck made this?
They're using the ol' Political Cumpiss Memes plot chart.
PCM was 100% idiots and fascists. It would make a lot of sense that they'd create something so dumb.
He wasn't even really a social democrat, to be honest. He bowed to the pressure of the socialist party at the time to prevent an actual fucking revolution (even if it would have been unsuccessful). Fdr understood that actual socialism would come knocking at the door if he didn't capitulate. Clearly the best president we've had (in economic terms) in the mostly modern era, but he wasn't as progress as people believe.
Edit
Also, tf is a "left" communist in this context? That's not generally a term used, and when it is, it's normally to point out the distinction between anarchists and Marxists, as in Lenin's "left-wing communism."
Is this chart claiming FDR was an anarcho-communist? Because... No. LMAO
Sounds like a textbook social democrat to me. Recognizing that social programs were necessary to prevent unrest is a likely reason that people from a wealthy political dynasty would support them. It's why both Roosevelts were so successful. They had their fingers on America's pulse and appealed to the white working class. They appealed on one hand, to their economic frustrations, breaking up monopolies and funding programs that helped people in desperate need. On the other hand, they appealed to nationalism and bigotry with Teddy's imperialism and FDR's alienation of ethnic groups like Japanese and Mexican American citizens.
The Democrats right now can't really use the same strategy, as they have a diverse coalition that wouldn't be down with that internal bigotry, while the white working class have embraced fascism because bigotry has been such a big part of their culture. The Democratic base is made of people who reject bigotry. That's the key value they all share. They are certainly more left wing economically than Republicans, but there are plenty of neoliberal Democrats that contribute big campaign dollars and reliable votes who the Dems don't want to alienate.
These Democrats are selfish pricks that want to keep their privilege, but not descend into fascism. Maybe it's because they're a minority that'll lose their privilege under fascism. Maybe they recognize that fascism is volatile and bad for long term business. Whatever the case, they aren't willing to give up their privilege to make a better world.
You are looking at the lean, a social democrat would show a lean toward communism.
That's like saying oranges are basically apples. They aren't even claiming to strive for communism. Unlike democratic socialists who want to achieve a state of communism, social democracy is the end goal. The end goal is to have the government clean up where capitalism fails, but still keep capitalism and private property around. You could make the argument that all socialists are communists, but social democrats fundamentally aren't. It shows that you have no idea what communism is. Communism is not "government does stuff." It's an unrealized political ideal that is not about the state dominating everything. In fact, plenty of communists are anti-state.
I don't think you understand what a political leanings is.
A system for understanding political leanings that classifies anti-communist southerners like LBJ as left communists is not an accurate one. Leanings like right or left are general enough to make sense, but terms like communist or liberal are more definitive ideologies. Whoever made this list either has no actual expertise in politics or is trying to push some sort of agenda. There has never been a socialist president, let alone a communist one.
How the hell was Johnson a communist?!
Leans that way based on policies and speeches.
I'm aware, you should send that to Puppy as they seem to be the one who's confused. Why'd you reply to me with that?
Oh no, I'm not confused. I'm serious. You're the only one confused here.
Trump isn't a fascist. He's a fucking idiot.
You seem to think he is a mastermind with a superplan.
Laughable. He's a fucking moron that doesn't stand for anything beside money. If the easier side to manipulate were liberals, he would be a full blown out socialist.
The guy is leading the flock of sheep that drive in the most money. End of the story. Stop pretending he even knows and understand what hes saying.
Holy shit you are blind if you think Trump is a genius
Where the hell are you getting this idea from? Why are you implying that in order for him to be a fascist he has to be a genius with a super plan? Did you miss my initial comment you replied to saying he was too dumb? Most fascists are in fact, quite dumb. That's typically how they end up being fascists. He's a fucking moron, who happens to be a fascist.
You can be both a fascist and an idiot. The two do not oppose one another.
Trump is the 45th president. How do you make a list like this and ignore the only black president you ever had.
You might want to re-read that table.
I'm just confused about the order.
nah. he's a fascist.
Well I disagree. You seem to suggest he is a mastermind and has a plan.
He doesn't. He's an idiot. He just say to whichever side is the easiest side to convince whatever they want to hear and they'll go with it.
If that make him a fascist, for you, so be it. I don't care I'm not here to defend Trump, of all the people lol.
I just disagree that he stand for anything. He's an idiot manipulated by bigger fish like Putin and whoever he own money to.
Who says fascists need to believe what they say?
Or that they need to be smart?
Fascism is not a coherent ideology. So the fact Trump says/does incoherent shit to maintain his power is actually evidence that he may be a fascist rather than evidence against it. This guy has no idea what he’s talking about.
My man out here is really "well actually-ing" fascism.
"Trump isn't fascist he just says and does fascist things."
Seriously?
Okay, since you're already here: how does it feel to be the dumbest person I know?
He's not not a fascist.
What's the difference? It's a democracy. There's some level of circularity between the people who vote for a candidate and the candidate themselves.
Are you defending trump or gatekeeping fascism?
He's literally pro-dictatorship. Loves the way North Korea is ruled: with absolute authority and with harsh punishments for anyone who disobeys their ruler.
The man is furious that his presidency did not grant him that. If he is elected a second time, he will aim towards dismantling democracy for his own gain.
Yea I assume if he did win, his next step would be to dismantle presidential term limits. "Hey just make me emporer"
What protections are in place if any to actually prevent someone from doing that?
The 22nd Amendment, so it's in the Constitution. Unfortunately the current Supreme Court would probably find a way to hugely misinterpret it.
God I hope there's a good answer to this question.
Well... sort of.
Trump never has held and never will hold any coherent political views of any sort. His entire focus is on himself, and the rest of the world only matters to the degree that he might manipulate people and things to feed his own ego, greed and lust.
So what'll likely actually happen is that his mindless supporters will rage, the psychopaths who want the world that having him in power will bring will fan the flames of that rage while whispering in his ear, and yes - he'll go full fascist. But not because of anything to do with fascism specifically - I doubt he can even grasp the broadest concept of it. It's simply that that will be, and to some notable degree will be contrived into being, the thing that he will believe will lead him to what he really wants - simply to feed his bottomless ego, greed and lust.
He understands fascism instinctively, not in an intellectual sense.
Fascism is a lot like a government run by a toddler: Everyone who doesn't like me is bad and I should kill them. Also people who are weird are bad and we should kill them. And that land over there is mine so I'm gonna take it. All the while I'm going to complain about how I'm the real victim.
Bear Head by Adrian Tchaikovsky delves into this kind of psychology from the interesting angle of treating Narcissistic Sociopaths as an alien form of consciousness. It proposes that sociopaths hijack human social interactions, turning others into mere appendages that carry out the sociopath's desires.
He does hold coherent political views. If political views are those having to do with the allocation of resources, then you outlined them yourself. He wants to further his own ego, greed, and lust. He thinks the government should exist to fulfill his every desire, and that all resources should go towards fulfilling them. He's the ultimate embodiment of corruption, with no guiding philosophy beyond selfishness. That is political, because wanting the world to bend to one's own will through the use of government is political. It's a kind of God-Emperor political philosophy.
He already did for quite a while now.
That’s a take out of left field. No one could have seen it coming. /s
If Trump is representing the GOP, Biden wins with 80% of the vote and the Democrats end up with a near super-majority in the House and Senate. More than enough to impeach and remove members of the Supreme Court.
Yes. And obviously Hillary would landslide this buffoon
No, Hillary was the worst candidate to face someone like Trump. The GOP spent 30 years turning the public on her.
I think you left out the part where Democrats grow spines.
Stop, you’re making me horny
Are you seriously here asking for money? That page looks like it was set up by someone who learned web development by taking a YouTube video course.
This is the unpaywalled version of the page viewed through a proxy.. Sorry it has that big ad there, but it's better than the alternative of not seeing the content.
what is that headline typeface, and is there anything i can do to un-see it?
i think john maynard keynes wrote something about it being ok to have a few serifs on a steady stream of glyphs, but it becomes problematic when the glyphs are but bubbles on a whirpool of serifs