Google and Brave The Only Search Engines Able To Index Reddit

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Google and Brave The Only Search Engines Able To Index Reddit
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at least we have competitions

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Just use ddg bangs if you use Duckduckgo and you can search reddit directly.

!reddit search term

It still picks up latest posts related to reddit, it just searches reddit directly instead of searching Bing's results. It's that simple.

This has historically worked because Bing (from which DDG draws results) previously indexed Reddit. What indications do we have that it will work after this change? As I read the articles, I thought it wouldn't work going forward.

Bangs don't actually search w/ Duckduckgo, they just redirect your search to whatever search provided is configured for that bang. In this case, it just goes to reddit.com and uses its search function. They're really handy when you definitely want results from a given service and don't want to type out "site:service.com" or whatever.

it just goes to reddit.com and uses its search function.

oh god.

It gets crazy when you use a redirection extension like libredirect. If you tell libredirect to redirect to a redlib instance, the !r or !reddit bang will try to send your query directly to reddit, and then instead you're presented with the search results on a no JavaScript frontend. This is what I do, a lot less clutter than reddit's site.

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This isn't going to hurt Google's antitrust cases at all... Noooo sir.

the thing is this is not monopoly and it much more like duopoly between Google and brave search. So, it is hard.

Brave search...? You're joking right...?

it is bearable and no captcha for VPN users (unlike google search)

But it's no where near the #2 spot. Brave search is incredibly niche.

Why is Brave allowed to index reddit and other engines aren't? Just switched to them and am not interested in reddit search results.

OH, I misunderstood what you were saying. I thought you were saying search itself is a duopoly between Google and Brave Search.

You're saying searching Reddit is a duopoly between Google and Brave Search.

That's my bad... but yeah, the article is just wrong anyways, Kagi also has access still (presumably through their deal with Google to use Google's search results as part of their result set). I wonder if Brave has a similar deal ... or their crawlers just haven't been blocked yet ... or they paid off Reddit.

EDIT: Also, I will say because Brave search has such a small market share that's probably not going to help Google's case much.

Yeah I wasnt trying to make any point, just learn more about brave's access that given their small scale compared to some other browsers seems out of place next to Google

Also, I will say because Brave search has such a small market share that’s probably not going to help Google’s case much.

I'd venture a guess that Brave is still allowed to search Reddit just as a legal fig leaf for Google's arguments with regulators.

Well, it only gives a bigger reason for other search engines to index the competition.

Kagi can still search Reddit content tho (blocked part of url because I have Kagi rewrite url to redirect to my private Redlib instance)

I think this is because they use some sources from Google and Brave?

blocked part of url because I have Kagi rewrite url to redirect to my private Redlib instance

I had no idea this was a thing. Thats going straight on my self-host todo list.

And I'm doing the opposite over here lol1000028263

I have the assumption that kagi's results from reddit have gotten sparse lately. but maybe it's just me

I setup a Lens so that if my query contains a single letter 'r'', only Reddit results will be returned.

I still append reddit to my query. it shows a handful of reddit links at the top. the rest are just random sites.

One time, I even came across a SEO optimized site that had the word "reddit" scattered all over with nothing but nonsense.

Fine by me - I don't use or like any of them, AND they will make sure I won't see them elsewhere? Jackpot

It's a good day to be a metasearch engine user. No need to worry right now about one company essentially having a monopoly on indexing a certain site.

TBF thats like 7/8ths of search engines used by most consumers.

TBF that's a textbook monopoly.

Yeah absolutely, tear that company to a million pieces, but it would practically be a shorter list of common search engines that it can't be used on. Between Google, Brave, and Bing most other search engines are just built upon those three.

I though it is only Google, now Brave join ? What about Bing ? Do they chip in soon ?

Is google still a thing!?

You just sound stuck up when you say that. Like “is windows still a thing? I didn’t know because I use Linux. Don’t you?”

Of course Google is still a thing, by far it’s still the largest search engine in use on the planet, so most people won’t notice it. If anything, this hurts all the not-Google users. Can you imagine if different sites started signing exclusivity deals with different search engines?

The last time I used Google, I searched for timer app, the result was blue light filter! No timer in the first 6 pages! The result was always irrelevant.

It's your mom's default search engine so I use it from time to time

Is one of the biggest companies on the planet still a thing!?

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