What quality do you associate 'stupid' within someone?

Frozyre@kbin.melroy.org to Asklemmy@lemmy.ml – 30 points –

Mine is the volume of their voice. If all that they can do is just talk too loudly with no reason for it and don't control the volume of their voice. That to me is a sign that you're a stupid fuck. Because people think the louder they are, the more righteous and attention seeking they are. Than it is to just listen, digest and respond accordingly to anyone talking around you.

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Not learning and adapting, never admitting they're wrong when they actually do realise they are wrong.

Managers tend to not like me.

Refusing to learn is the most frustrating things. Working computer repair this would be the surefire way that 1) I was not going to like you and 2) you were going to be a moron who will give me a lot of money of the years.

"I lost my Gmail password."

"Sure let me show you how to reset it"

"NO. JUST DO IT"

"sigh, that'll be $30."

I would always try to teach people how to do things. Refusing to learn at all though, well, I've always wondered if there's a link to refusing to learn anything new and dementia

I have a major problem!!! It is causing me pain and I cannot work because of this issue!!!

Sure let me fix it…

No!! Not now! Come back later!

So, it isn’t that big an issue?

No!!! It is so big I will talk to your boss about how you are not helping and why it is causing me issues!!!!

——— yeah had this conversation more than once. Sigh

I feel you.

Never admitting you're wrong is a big one. Admitting you're wrong allows you to grow as a person.

People who believe in the bible as a historic document.

Very frustrating, especially when the book itself has a lot of fairly direct "this is symbolism/allegory/not to be interpreted literally" statements within.

Inability to see things from different perspectives. Assuming any perspective you talk about is your own personal belief.

Bigotry

It isn't necessarily about intelligence, since stupid is as stupid does.

I tend to call that willful ignorance. It's knowing that there are other ways of thinking, but refusing to even consider them. Which is stupid, dumber than dammit, and/or moronic. I've known some damn intelligent people that are stupid by virtue of not using their brain.

Be aware though, not everyone can control their volume. I don't doubt you were aware of that, but it's not so rare a thing as to not be worth mentioning. There's also others that have trouble controlling volume.

Again, I don't doubt you meant the folks that can control their volume, and do so without difficulty, just adding to things.

Above everything, lack of curiosity. If someone is uncurious, it's a big red flag to me.

I was thinking the same thing. The not wanting to know more is a really big red flag for me.

This is the main thing I come up with because curiosity is the one thing that keeps ignorance from being a temporary state.

Not keeping a constant speed when driving on the highway. Just pick a speed and drive.

While I agree with you, I would like to point out one exception I've noticed: veeeeeery occasionally you'll run into someone with an old junker that either has a broken cruise control or an old, not fully maintained cruise control system.

My old busted up, 70% rusted-out ’99 Ford Ranger that I had bought for like $1000 had the latter problem, where the cruise control would work, but its accuracy sat at around ±1–2 mph or so.

It's annoying when the vacuum system has a small leak so, over that long road trip, the car is always slooooowly losing speed. It's such a nightmare to diagnose, at least as a DIYer.

My car is a 2015 and didn't come with a cruise control lol :(.

To be fair, I can drive at and maintain a consistent speed without it, though I didn't have to often thanks to stop and go traffic 🎉.

Like, at all? From the factory? That's very strange, I would think.

I drove a base model Ford Fiesta about five years ago that did not ship with cruise control functionality of any kind. I was surprised as well, but the practice does exist.

If you don't have cruise control and keep your foot steady, your speed will vary naturally with the road.

Conservative politics, as Mill points out, stupid people are attracted to it. Many of them will plant a sign on their lawn to let you know.

"I did not mean that Conservatives are generally stupid; I meant, that stupid persons are generally Conservative. . - John Stuart Mill

I will counter that the definition of intelligence is needed. Yours OP seems to be emo intelligence, maybe social intelligence. One can be very intelligent in other areas while not within these.

My quality would be a person's ability to abstract and understand subjects through inference and intuition; to see all the layers of bigger pictures and the uncertainty of truth when contextualized.

In many ways, I fail at my own stupid, but it is a striving in life. After all, what use are achievable goals.

Stupid is subjective, circumstantial, and non binary.

for no reason

Just for the sake of argument, one good reason is actually something I dealt with for a while there: after having worked in a factory where hearing protection was absolutely mandatory for close to a year, for like two years after leaving that job I found myself shouting, even indoors, without even realizing it. It had just become second-nature.

My point is even if there doesn't seem to be a reason, there might be.

 

Edit: Just to be clear, it was a job where hearing protection was mandatory, and I was there for close to a year; it wasn't only mandatory for close to a year. Lol.

My mom had a hearing issue so I spent my young life being asked to speak up. Now I'm too loud, except for when i try to adjust it and then I'm to quiet. 🤷

Well SHIT.

I think you may just be fucked, friend. :(

Yeah.. Oh well. Loud and stupid aren't the worst things I've been called.

Loud and stupid are affectionate descriptors from my friends. I also struggle with volume after being too quiet for my early years and overcompensating in the later ones.

Profession can absolutely affect volume. Even without any hearing damage, any job that regularly requires that you project can become a habit.

I'm a chemistry professor at a community college, fairly well educated, and I flatter myself to say reasonably intelligent, but I still slip into what my wife calls my "teaching voice" in some social settings or even occasionally at home.

Blue collar dudes yell into cellphones. Doesn't matter how smart. They just do. It used to drive me nuts but I get it now.

Some people aren't self monitors. A lot of stupid/ignorant people are loud, but being loud can also be lack of awareness of their volume, hearing deficit, or cultural

Religion of any type.

I’m less certain. Lots of intelligent people can get caught up in such things. Religion depends also on upbringing and cultural background.

This. One of the smartest guys I know, running a worldwide software business, is religious. Faith does not equal stupid.

Agreed, faith can often be a sense of comfort, not necessarily gullibility.

Maybe they're hard of hearing and don't know.

I have really bad social anxiety and will either speak too quiet or too loudly when i have to talk to somebody, there's other reasons someone might speak too loud.

I've always valued privacy when having a conversation in public. I speak loudly enough for the person I'm with to hear me. I've never understood people just yacking loudly so the whole world knows their business.

Loud college students were having a conversation behind us yesterday (the museum is near the university). I stopped and my partner was stopped by us holding hands. Waited till they got about fifteen feet in front of us and resumed walking.

And NOW on the mobile phone on speaker.... it's a concept I don't get, nor want to.

It also makes me feel like an old grumpy man because I dislike it so...

Don't ever go to Spain. They are loud as hell. They all yell at each other at full volume while having multiple TVs and phones blaring on speaker.

For me it's more likely that they just grew up in a big family where you can't get a word in unless you speak up

Thinking about it, a lot of things that I flag as idiotic come from putting emotions first. We're all emotional creatures, but idiots are ruled by them. It's idiotic to blow your rent money on candy, but the short term emotional high for an idiot is too appealing. It's stupid to blow up at someone instead of admitting fault, but admitting fault feels bad, so the idiot can't take that. Reading an essay is informative, but that's boring work and the idiot might feel bad if they don't understand it, so they'd avoid the whole thing. If the essay doesn't agree with their worldview, that's going to feel terrible.